That's about as tough a loss as I can remember....

It's not all on Jones. Look how many men the Tigers left on Base!


"TM" wrote in message

> and at a terrible time in the grand scheme of things,,,,
>
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"snapp44" wrote in message

> In article , TM says...
>>
>>and at a terrible time in the grand scheme of things,,,,
>>
>>
> They are what they are. An average team playing out the
> season, without any sence of urgency. Satisfied and
> contented.
>



Problem is, they're not an "average team." No one seems to know what their
problem is though.
Well, part of the problem is that they can't make up all the losses in April
and May.






> Dave
>
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In article , Bill Kawalec says...
>
>
>"snapp44" wrote in message
>
>> In article , TM says...
>>>
>>>and at a terrible time in the grand scheme of things,,,,
>>>
>>>
>> They are what they are. An average team playing out the
>> season, without any sence of urgency. Satisfied and
>> contented.
>>
>
>
>
>Problem is, they're not an "average team." No one seems to know what their
>problem is though.
>Well, part of the problem is that they can't make up all the losses in April
>and May.
>
>
Most need to go on the Dr Phil Show. They ARE a bunch of
contented fat cats that have allowed their egos to overide
their natural desires. Age is also a factor and sad to say
if we had played more Thomases, Hollimons, Joyces, etc. we
wouldn't have had as many losses in April and May. I would
try and balance this team with some younger players who have
bigger desires than most of this current bunch. This lineup
seems to not be hungry enough. Just my opinion.

Dave
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On 25 Jul 2008 19:41:58 -0700, snapp44 wrote:

>In article , TM says...
>>
>>and at a terrible time in the grand scheme of things,,,,
>>
>>
>They are what they are. An average team playing out the
>season, without any sence of urgency.

Exactly. At least someone here "gets it".

And Jones blowing the save is no surprise at all.




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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:47:07 -0400, "Brian" wrote:

>It's not all on Jones.

Yes, it really was...and even Jones admitted it was.

"We're in a hole," Jones said, "and now we're 6 1/2 out instead of 4 1/2 out.
We played with them. I just didn't get the job done tonight. He got me.
There's nothing I can say. He got me. I have to live with that."



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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:58:55 -0400, "Hosmerica" wrote:

>"Scott Smith" wrote in message

>> And Jones blowing the save is no surprise at all.
>
>
>It's bound to happen now and then. Don't get your panties all bunched up
>over it. He's still 18 of 21...

....and fading fast.



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"Scott Smith" wrote in message

> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:47:07 -0400, "Brian" wrote:
>
>>It's not all on Jones.
>
> Yes, it really was...and even Jones admitted it was.
>
> "We're in a hole," Jones said, "and now we're 6 1/2 out instead of 4 1/2
> out.
> We played with them. I just didn't get the job done tonight. He got me.
> There's nothing I can say. He got me. I have to live with that."


So because Jones says so means its true? Zumaya giving up 2 earlier in the
game didn't mean anything?
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:58:57 -0400, "Hosmerica" wrote:

>
>"Scott Smith" wrote in message
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:47:07 -0400, "Brian" wrote:
>>
>>>It's not all on Jones.
>>
>> Yes, it really was...and even Jones admitted it was.
>>
>> "We're in a hole," Jones said, "and now we're 6 1/2 out instead of 4 1/2
>> out.
>> We played with them. I just didn't get the job done tonight. He got me.
>> There's nothing I can say. He got me. I have to live with that."
>
>
>So because Jones says so means its true? Zumaya giving up 2 earlier in the
>game didn't mean anything?


Just face reality....Jones blew that win for the Tigers.



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"Scott Smith" wrote in message

> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:58:57 -0400, "Hosmerica"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Scott Smith" wrote in message
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:47:07 -0400, "Brian" wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's not all on Jones.
>>>
>>> Yes, it really was...and even Jones admitted it was.
>>>
>>> "We're in a hole," Jones said, "and now we're 6 1/2 out instead of 4 1/2
>>> out.
>>> We played with them. I just didn't get the job done tonight. He got me.
>>> There's nothing I can say. He got me. I have to live with that."
>>
>>
>>So because Jones says so means its true? Zumaya giving up 2 earlier in
>>the
>>game didn't mean anything?
>
>
> Just face reality....Jones blew that win for the Tigers.


The reality is Robertson allowed more runs than Jones...Zumaya didn't help
either. It amazes me sometimes how far you'll go to ensure Jones is your
whipping boy when there are other parts of the game that didn't go so well.
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:56:45 -0400, "Hosmerica" wrote:

>
>"Scott Smith" wrote in message
>
>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:58:57 -0400, "Hosmerica"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Scott Smith" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:47:07 -0400, "Brian" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It's not all on Jones.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it really was...and even Jones admitted it was.
>>>>
>>>> "We're in a hole," Jones said, "and now we're 6 1/2 out instead of 4 1/2
>>>> out.
>>>> We played with them. I just didn't get the job done tonight. He got me.
>>>> There's nothing I can say. He got me. I have to live with that."
>>>
>>>
>>>So because Jones says so means its true? Zumaya giving up 2 earlier in
>>>the
>>>game didn't mean anything?
>>
>>
>> Just face reality....Jones blew that win for the Tigers.
>
>
>The reality is Robertson allowed more runs than Jones...Zumaya didn't help
>either. It amazes me sometimes how far you'll go to ensure Jones is your
>whipping boy when there are other parts of the game that didn't go so well.


It either was a save situation or it wasn't.

It was....and Jones blew it.




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"Hosmerica" wrote in message

>
> "Scott Smith" wrote in message
>
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:47:07 -0400, "Brian" wrote:
>>
>>>It's not all on Jones.
>>
>> Yes, it really was...and even Jones admitted it was.
>>
>> "We're in a hole," Jones said, "and now we're 6 1/2 out instead of 4 1/2
>> out.
>> We played with them. I just didn't get the job done tonight. He got me.
>> There's nothing I can say. He got me. I have to live with that."
>
>
> So because Jones says so means its true? Zumaya giving up 2 earlier in
> the game didn't mean anything?



6 1/2 out instead of 4 1/2 out. What does that tell you?? That Friday nights
game was a huge loss?? NO!! It tells you that the Tigers lost their chance
at playing in October in April and May. Hell, if they had just split the
first 12, instead of going 2-10, they'd only be 2 1/2 out after the loss on
Friday (even less if they had done better than 1-5 vs the W Sox in April!).




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>
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"Hosmerica" wrote in message

>
> "Scott Smith" wrote in message
>
>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:58:57 -0400, "Hosmerica"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Scott Smith" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:47:07 -0400, "Brian" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It's not all on Jones.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it really was...and even Jones admitted it was.
>>>>
>>>> "We're in a hole," Jones said, "and now we're 6 1/2 out instead of 4
>>>> 1/2
>>>> out.
>>>> We played with them. I just didn't get the job done tonight. He got
>>>> me.
>>>> There's nothing I can say. He got me. I have to live with that."
>>>
>>>
>>>So because Jones says so means its true? Zumaya giving up 2 earlier in
>>>the
>>>game didn't mean anything?
>>
>>
>> Just face reality....Jones blew that win for the Tigers.
>
>
> The reality is Robertson allowed more runs than Jones...



well DUH! He pitched more than 3 outs too!







Zumaya didn't help
> either. It amazes me sometimes how far you'll go to ensure Jones is your
> whipping boy when there are other parts of the game that didn't go so
> well.
>
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:49:02 -0400, "Bill Kawalec" wrote:

>
>"Hosmerica" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "Scott Smith" wrote in message
>>
>>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:58:57 -0400, "Hosmerica"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Scott Smith" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:47:07 -0400, "Brian" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's not all on Jones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it really was...and even Jones admitted it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We're in a hole," Jones said, "and now we're 6 1/2 out instead of 4
>>>>> 1/2
>>>>> out.
>>>>> We played with them. I just didn't get the job done tonight. He got
>>>>> me.
>>>>> There's nothing I can say. He got me. I have to live with that."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So because Jones says so means its true? Zumaya giving up 2 earlier in
>>>>the
>>>>game didn't mean anything?
>>>
>>>
>>> Just face reality....Jones blew that win for the Tigers.
>>
>>
>> The reality is Robertson allowed more runs than Jones...
>
>
>
>well DUH! He pitched more than 3 outs too!


Bill, the Jones apologists will *never* get it.

Looks like Verlander "allowed more runs than Jones" tonight, too.

LOL




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