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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:06 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:46 am
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"BlackJet76" <blackjet76.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Thinks have changed alot this past year. Do you think Unit and Schill are
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> top five picks? Are Dontrelle and Webb top 10 picks? What do you think
about
> Gil Meche's value next year?
You mean top 10 among pitchers or top 10 overall? I would never draft a
pitcher in the first round. This year is a perfect picture of why not.
They are simply too injury prone. Yea, hitters can get hurt, but not nearly
as often. Looking at just one league, of the nine hitters taken in the
first round, only Tejada has been a real disappointment (even though a few
have had short term injuries), but all three pitchers have -- and the next
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:17 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:43 pm
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Top 16
Mulder, Mussina, Wood, Zito, Hudson, Prior, Halladay, Ortiz, Martinez,
Johnson, Schilling, Schmidt, Williams, Nomo, Loaiza, Moyer
Willis is getting hit too hard in the second half and Meche is tailing off a
bit. They're top 20, though. >> Stay informed about: The top 10 pitchers for the 2004 draft? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:44 pm
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Trijcomm wrote:
> Top 16
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> Mulder, Mussina, Wood, Zito, Hudson, Prior, Halladay, Ortiz, Martinez,
> Johnson, Schilling, Schmidt, Williams, Nomo, Loaiza, Moyer
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> Willis is getting hit too hard in the second half and Meche is tailing off a
> bit. They're top 20, though. >> Stay informed about: The top 10 pitchers for the 2004 draft? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:54 am
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"tabin" <tabin.RemoveThis@iname.com> wrote in message
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> webb?
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> Trijcomm wrote:
> > Top 16
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> > Mulder, Mussina, Wood, Zito, Hudson, Prior, Halladay, Ortiz, Martinez,
> > Johnson, Schilling, Schmidt, Williams, Nomo, Loaiza, Moyer
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> > Willis is getting hit too hard in the second half and Meche is tailing
off a
> > bit. They're top 20, though.
Ortiz??? It doesn't matter if you're talking Russ or the dude from Cali,
neither belong anywhere near the top 10. How about Kevin Brown?? Roy
Oswalt??Halladay??? >> Stay informed about: The top 10 pitchers for the 2004 draft? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 12:19 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:54 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:05 am
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On 12 Aug 2003 03:06:07 GMT, blackjet76 DeleteThis @aol.com (BlackJet76) wrote:
>Thinks have changed alot this past year. Do you think Unit and Schill are still
>top five picks? Are Dontrelle and Webb top 10 picks? What do you think about
>Gil Meche's value next year?
No love for Prior? >> Stay informed about: The top 10 pitchers for the 2004 draft? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:16 pm
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BlackJet76 wrote:
> Thinks have changed alot this past year. Do you think Unit and Schill are still
> top five picks? Are Dontrelle and Webb top 10 picks? What do you think about
> Gil Meche's value next year?
Since we're talkin' 2004, let me assert that Carlos Zambrano will be among the
top 10 in the NL, perhaps both leagues. Just my opinion.
-- Josh >> Stay informed about: The top 10 pitchers for the 2004 draft? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:54 am
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:28 am
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"DaHooterssssssss" <dahooterssssssss RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> Loaiza? Williams? Ortiz?
I don't care which Ortiz you are talking about. Neither one is a top 10
pitcher. Russ Ortiz is a solid slightly above average pitcher who happens to
play for a team that is scoring him a lot of runs. His ERA is decent, not
great. His WHIP, although the best of his career, is nothing special. He
doesn't strike out that many. His only superior stat this year is wins,
which we all know is highly variable from year to year. >> Stay informed about: The top 10 pitchers for the 2004 draft? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 4:56 pm
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"Doug Anderson" <dandy15 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "DaHooterssssssss" <dahooterssssssss DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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I'd take Prior before any of those 3 >> Stay informed about: The top 10 pitchers for the 2004 draft? |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:11 am
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blackjet76.TakeThisOut@aol.com (BlackJet76) wrote in message news:<20030811230607.20330.00002205.TakeThisOut@mb-m29.aol.com>...
> Thinks have changed alot this past year. Do you think Unit and Schill are still
> top five picks? Are Dontrelle and Webb top 10 picks? What do you think about
> Gil Meche's value next year?
I know he's been hurt but I looked through all of these posts and not
once have I seen Matt Morris's name mentioned. I'm kinda surprised
since I see reference to pitchers who have been injured (Schilling,
Johnson, Oswalt, Pedro, Kevin Brown), or someone like Loaiza having a
career year with not much else in his history to sustain belief he'll
continue in that vein. Add a few long in the tooth pitchers (Moyer and
Williams) who might just as easily perform well in 2004 as not and I
can't see Morris not even getting a mention while people talk up
Willis and Webb.
Here's one take:
Group 1 - in no particluar order
The Oakland Trio (Mulder, Zito, Hudson)
Roy Halladay
Pedro Martinez
Kerry Wood
Mark Prior
Jason Schmidt
Roy Oswalt
Mike Mussina
Group 2
Matt Morris
Randy Johnson
Curt Schilling
Hideo Nomo
C.C. Sabathia
Jaime Moyer
Woody Williams
Joel Piniero
Kevin Brown
Javier Vazquez (assuming the Expos don't play all 81 home games in
Puerto Rico in 2004)
Willis and Webb, etc.? I'd wait another year - remember John Lackey.
These are my opinions drawn from my own conclusions and observations.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:28 pm
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"New Daddy Mosey" <john DeleteThis @mosey.combat> wrote in message
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> >> Has he been a disappointment?
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> >Somewhat, but I'm not sure how that relates to the discussion.
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> How has Clemens been a dissappointment?
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> As for your not getting how it relates
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> *acts shocked*
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> People who say dumb stuff usually don't get it when the flaws are exposed.
Disappointment may be too strong a word, but he's had some weak stretches.
Remember we were talking about picking pitchers in the top 10. I don't know
of any league where Clemens went in the top 10 (hence, why does he relate?)
and he certainly hasn't been a top 10 player. >> Stay informed about: The top 10 pitchers for the 2004 draft? |
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