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Wayne Rust

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:29 am
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Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:29 am
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Wayne Rust <lovetiger DeleteThis @joplin.com> wrote in message
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> Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
> Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
> last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.

neither. hunter is probably only the fifth or sixth most valuable hitter
and guardado is only the third or fourth most valuable pitcher.

i think cases can be made for santana, and maybe even pierzynski given that
he's an "offensive" player at a defensive position.

man, that's a tough question actually, aside from santana (who doesn't even
have enough IP to qualify for the ERA title) or hawkins (who is a setup guy,
possibly the most overlooked players in all of baseball), the twins really
don't have any dominant players. the strength of the team seems to be an
abundance of above average players, especially hitters, relievers, and
bench. shoot, the twins have i think 4 starters who hit .300, none of which
could even get a sniff of the league MVP award, plus a couple more bench
guys (ford and ryan) who are currently well over .300 in limited ABs.

kind of a funny team in that unlike all of the other "for sure" playoff
teams, there hasn't been a single twin seriously discussed for either the cy
young or mvp award. (although to be fair no one's been hyping hudson,
mulder, or foulke for several weeks now.)

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:57 am
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"Wayne Rust" <lovetiger.RemoveThis@joplin.com> wrote in message news:<1064388930.396181.RemoveThis@news001.transaeris.com>...
> Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
> Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
> last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.

Hunter? I assume that's a joke. The Twins' MVP this year, if you're
talking about a postion player, is Shannon Stewart ... probably Jones
or DM if you disqualify Stewart for being with the team half a year.
If you open it up to pitchers, it'd be hard not to mention Santana.
Hawkins is great, but I don't think a set-up man can be a teams most
valuable player.

Matt
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:31 pm
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My vote goes to A.J. A.J. caught all those games after Princey was released
and hit the cover off the ball (a catcher hitting .309???). His defensive
play is sooooo much improved as well. He also seems to have a knack for
settling down pitchers. I think he learned alot from Tom Prince in that
regard.

Honorable mentions in order:
Doug (Best defensive1st baseman in the majors, he complimented that with
solid offensive numbers this season).
LaTroy (One ot the best setup men in the majors, please resign this guy at
all cost Terry).
Johan (Amazing year. Dominating at times. A future 20 game winner methinks).
Jacque (HUGE HUGE game (Two 2 run homers with 2 outs) when the Twins needed
some runs. That game was the turning point IMO).
* Shannon (to be an MVP you pretty much gotta play the whole year with a
club, but you all know by now my feelings about this guy. He simply was the
key ingredient that saved the Twins season).
Eddie (I still get a little nervous watching him but he flat-out gets it
done).
Brad (Simply MONEY down the stretch. This guy shows up when his team needs
him the most).




"Wayne Rust" <lovetiger RemoveThis @joplin.com> wrote in message
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> Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
> Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
> last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:59 pm
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Without a doubt, Corey Koskie.

Well to be honest I'm just saying that because I live in Manitoba.

"Bundo" <bundo.DeleteThis@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> My vote goes to A.J. A.J. caught all those games after Princey was
released
> and hit the cover off the ball (a catcher hitting .309???). His defensive
> play is sooooo much improved as well. He also seems to have a knack for
> settling down pitchers. I think he learned alot from Tom Prince in that
> regard.
>
> Honorable mentions in order:
> Doug (Best defensive1st baseman in the majors, he complimented that with
> solid offensive numbers this season).
> LaTroy (One ot the best setup men in the majors, please resign this guy at
> all cost Terry).
> Johan (Amazing year. Dominating at times. A future 20 game winner
methinks).
> Jacque (HUGE HUGE game (Two 2 run homers with 2 outs) when the Twins
needed
> some runs. That game was the turning point IMO).
> * Shannon (to be an MVP you pretty much gotta play the whole year with a
> club, but you all know by now my feelings about this guy. He simply was
the
> key ingredient that saved the Twins season).
> Eddie (I still get a little nervous watching him but he flat-out gets it
> done).
> Brad (Simply MONEY down the stretch. This guy shows up when his team needs
> him the most).
>
>
>
>
> "Wayne Rust" <lovetiger.DeleteThis@joplin.com> wrote in message
> news:1064388930.396181@news001.transaeris.com...
> > Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
> > Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
> > last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.
> >
> >
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:59 pm
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Jason <Darker.RemoveThis@Shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Without a doubt, Corey Koskie.
>
> Well to be honest I'm just saying that because I live in Manitoba.

iheard the other day that he was selected "manitoban male athlete of the
year" recently, by the paper i think.

do you know anything about this?

> "Bundo" <bundo.RemoveThis@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:Q8gcb.108078$DZ.83046@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > My vote goes to A.J. A.J. caught all those games after Princey was
> released
> > and hit the cover off the ball (a catcher hitting .309???). His
defensive
> > play is sooooo much improved as well. He also seems to have a knack for
> > settling down pitchers. I think he learned alot from Tom Prince in that
> > regard.
> >
> > Honorable mentions in order:
> > Doug (Best defensive1st baseman in the majors, he complimented that with
> > solid offensive numbers this season).
> > LaTroy (One ot the best setup men in the majors, please resign this guy
at
> > all cost Terry).
> > Johan (Amazing year. Dominating at times. A future 20 game winner
> methinks).
> > Jacque (HUGE HUGE game (Two 2 run homers with 2 outs) when the Twins
> needed
> > some runs. That game was the turning point IMO).
> > * Shannon (to be an MVP you pretty much gotta play the whole year with a
> > club, but you all know by now my feelings about this guy. He simply was
> the
> > key ingredient that saved the Twins season).
> > Eddie (I still get a little nervous watching him but he flat-out gets it
> > done).
> > Brad (Simply MONEY down the stretch. This guy shows up when his team
needs
> > him the most).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Wayne Rust" <lovetiger.RemoveThis@joplin.com> wrote in message
> > news:1064388930.396181@news001.transaeris.com...
> > > Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
> > > Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
> > > last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 1:12 pm
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I am Canadian too (Toronto here). Koskie would be a good goalie and is a
wonderful 3rd baseman. Maybe MVP in playoffs?
"Jason" <Darker.TakeThisOut@Shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Without a doubt, Corey Koskie.
>
> Well to be honest I'm just saying that because I live in Manitoba.
>
> "Bundo" <bundo.TakeThisOut@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:Q8gcb.108078$DZ.83046@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > My vote goes to A.J. A.J. caught all those games after Princey was
> released
> > and hit the cover off the ball (a catcher hitting .309???). His
defensive
> > play is sooooo much improved as well. He also seems to have a knack for
> > settling down pitchers. I think he learned alot from Tom Prince in that
> > regard.
> >
> > Honorable mentions in order:
> > Doug (Best defensive1st baseman in the majors, he complimented that with
> > solid offensive numbers this season).
> > LaTroy (One ot the best setup men in the majors, please resign this guy
at
> > all cost Terry).
> > Johan (Amazing year. Dominating at times. A future 20 game winner
> methinks).
> > Jacque (HUGE HUGE game (Two 2 run homers with 2 outs) when the Twins
> needed
> > some runs. That game was the turning point IMO).
> > * Shannon (to be an MVP you pretty much gotta play the whole year with a
> > club, but you all know by now my feelings about this guy. He simply was
> the
> > key ingredient that saved the Twins season).
> > Eddie (I still get a little nervous watching him but he flat-out gets it
> > done).
> > Brad (Simply MONEY down the stretch. This guy shows up when his team
needs
> > him the most).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Wayne Rust" <lovetiger.TakeThisOut@joplin.com> wrote in message
> > news:1064388930.396181@news001.transaeris.com...
> > > Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
> > > Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
> > > last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:36 pm
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>> Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
>> Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
>> last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.
>
>Hunter? I assume that's a joke. The Twins' MVP this year, if you're
>talking about a postion player, is Shannon Stewart ... probably Jones
>or DM if you disqualify Stewart for being with the team half a year.
>If you open it up to pitchers, it'd be hard not to mention Santana.
>Hawkins is great, but I don't think a set-up man can be a teams most
>valuable player.


I think I agree with you, in that Shannon Stewart should be the Twins MVP. The
team really took off when he came on board. And his being with the team for
only half a year shouldn't factor into it. It's his impact in such a short time
that is the telling factor.





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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:05 am
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Shannon Stewart

"Wayne Rust" <lovetiger DeleteThis @joplin.com> wrote in message
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> Who was MN's mvp last year? Hunter? Guardado?
> Who will be this year? I propose whichever wasn't
> last year. Either Hunter or Guardado.
>
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:28 pm
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"brink" <forget RemoveThis @about.it> wrote

> > On closer examination, maybe it's closer than I thought.
> > If not Hunter, then it's Stewart.
>
> minneapolis, we have a problem. stewart wasn't even a >twin for more than
half the season!
>
> how can you look at a guy who was only with the team >for 40 percent of
its games and say he's the most >valuable? MVP of the second half maybe
(and i
> still think that's santana). but please...

But brink, Santana did not appear in anything like 40% of the Twins games,
and you seem to be willing to give him MVP!!??

'splain that.

Brian Jones
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 12:40 am
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In the end, there will be an answer to this question.
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