Why the love for the Rule 5 draft?

Marc-NS <marcmelanson.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>Sputtered:


>> What Rule 5 players have gone on to fantastic careers?
>
> Johan Santana wasn't too bad....
>

Really? He was a Rule 5-er?

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FSogol
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Yes - so was Dan Uggla of the Marlins. There are some gems that get
logjammed in the various systems - mostly stones though.
"FSogol" <fsogol.RemoveThis@nomorespamplease.nu> wrote in message
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> Marc-NS <marcmelanson.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>Sputtered:
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>>> What Rule 5 players have gone on to fantastic careers?
>>
>> Johan Santana wasn't too bad....
>>
>
> Really? He was a Rule 5-er?
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> FSogol
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On Dec 5, 8:26 pm, FSogol <fso....DeleteThis@nomorespamplease.nu> wrote:
> What Rule 5 players have gone on to fantastic careers? We got lucky with
> Flores, but remember we got Speigner also. Why clear room on the 40 man to
> take another one of these guys? If they take a right handed outfielder,
> I'll scream.
>
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> FSogol

I'd also add that this is conducted annually in the early December
timeframe. There's not a lot of baseball happening around that time
and as a few players who were Rule 5 picks panned out, it received
more visibility.

Josh Hamilton was a Rule 5 Pick last year.
George Bell was a rule 5 pick about 30 yrs ago.
Roberto Clemente was a Rule 5 pick back in the 1950's.
Jay Gibbons was a Rule 5 Pick from 2000.

More often than not, the guys picked don't contribute. But some do.
And besides, there's not much else going on....
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Did they even have Rule 5 back in the days of Clemente and the reserve
clause? Dodgers kept Cimoli to draw the Italian's to the games. Bad
choice.

"Commish" <mark.wolven.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 5, 8:26 pm, FSogol <fso....RemoveThis@nomorespamplease.nu> wrote:
>> What Rule 5 players have gone on to fantastic careers? We got lucky with
>> Flores, but remember we got Speigner also. Why clear room on the 40 man
>> to
>> take another one of these guys? If they take a right handed outfielder,
>> I'll scream.
>>
>> --
>> FSogol
>
> I'd also add that this is conducted annually in the early December
> timeframe. There's not a lot of baseball happening around that time
> and as a few players who were Rule 5 picks panned out, it received
> more visibility.
>
> Josh Hamilton was a Rule 5 Pick last year.
> George Bell was a rule 5 pick about 30 yrs ago.
> Roberto Clemente was a Rule 5 pick back in the 1950's.
> Jay Gibbons was a Rule 5 Pick from 2000.
>
> More often than not, the guys picked don't contribute. But some do.
> And besides, there's not much else going on....
 >> Stay informed about: Why the love for the Rule 5 draft? 

"Commish" <mark.wolven DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 5, 8:26 pm, FSogol <fso... DeleteThis @nomorespamplease.nu> wrote:
>> What Rule 5 players have gone on to fantastic careers? We got lucky with
>> Flores, but remember we got Speigner also. Why clear room on the 40 man
>> to
>> take another one of these guys? If they take a right handed outfielder,
>> I'll scream.
>>
>> --
>> FSogol
>
> I'd also add that this is conducted annually in the early December
> timeframe. There's not a lot of baseball happening around that time
> and as a few players who were Rule 5 picks panned out, it received
> more visibility.
>
> Josh Hamilton was a Rule 5 Pick last year.
> George Bell was a rule 5 pick about 30 yrs ago.
> Roberto Clemente was a Rule 5 pick back in the 1950's.
> Jay Gibbons was a Rule 5 Pick from 2000.
>
> More often than not, the guys picked don't contribute. But some do.
> And besides, there's not much else going on....

I may be advertising my ignorance of the Rule 5, but Roberto Clemente became
a Pirate in a trade with the Dodgers. Once he came up, he never went back.
Did they even have this back in the 50's? I apologize if being out of the
baseball loop for close to 30 years while we saw everyone from San Diego to
the Orioles being promised to DC got me not keeping up.

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"Brian Whiting" <CompAid DeleteThis @rcn.com> wrote in message
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> "Commish" <mark.wolven DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Dec 5, 8:26 pm, FSogol <fso... DeleteThis @nomorespamplease.nu> wrote:
>>> What Rule 5 players have gone on to fantastic careers? We got lucky
>>> with
>>> Flores, but remember we got Speigner also. Why clear room on the 40 man
>>> to
>>> take another one of these guys? If they take a right handed outfielder,
>>> I'll scream.
>>>
>>> --
>>> FSogol
>>
>> I'd also add that this is conducted annually in the early December
>> timeframe. There's not a lot of baseball happening around that time
>> and as a few players who were Rule 5 picks panned out, it received
>> more visibility.
>>
>> Josh Hamilton was a Rule 5 Pick last year.
>> George Bell was a rule 5 pick about 30 yrs ago.
>> Roberto Clemente was a Rule 5 pick back in the 1950's.
>> Jay Gibbons was a Rule 5 Pick from 2000.
>>
>> More often than not, the guys picked don't contribute. But some do.
>> And besides, there's not much else going on....
>
> I may be advertising my ignorance of the Rule 5, but Roberto Clemente
> became a Pirate in a trade with the Dodgers. Once he came up, he never
> went back. Did they even have this back in the 50's? I apologize if being
> out of the baseball loop for close to 30 years while we saw everyone from
> San Diego to the Orioles being promised to DC got me not keeping up.
>
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> Brian J. Whiting
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> Brian_Whiting_2006 DeleteThis @yahoo.com

The following people were selected in the Rule 5 Draft

Rule 5 draft results

Hall of Famers
a.. Roberto Clemente
b.. Christy Mathewson

All Stars
a.. George Bell
b.. Bobby Bonilla
c.. Jody Davis
d.. Darrell Evans
e.. Kelly Gruber
f.. Dave Hollins
g.. Willie Hernandez
h.. John Hudek Selected in minor league portion.
i.. Mike Morgan
j.. Scott Podsednik Selected in minor league portion.
k.. Bip Roberts
l.. Johan Santana
m.. Manny Trillo Selected in minor league portion.
n.. Derrick Turnbow
o.. Dan Uggla

Others
a.. Luis Ayala
b.. Kimera Bartee
c.. Miguel Batista
d.. Marcos Carvajal
e.. Fabio Castro
f.. Doug Corbett
g.. Lenny DiNardo
h.. Vaughn Eshelman
i.. Jesús Flores
j.. Jay Gibbons
k.. Luis A. Gonzalez
l.. Jason Grilli
m.. Josh Hamilton
n.. Tyler Johnson
o.. David Lamb
p.. Wilfredo Ledezma
q.. Graeme Lloyd
r.. Hector Luna
s.. Shane Mack
t.. Matt Mantei
u.. Juan Mateo
v.. Henry Owens Selected in minor league portion.
w.. Josh Phelps
x.. Damian Rolls
y.. Victor Santos
z.. Chris Shelton
aa.. Andy Sisco
ab.. Joakim Soria
ac.. Adam Stern
ad.. Jason Szuminski
ae.. Willie Upshaw
af.. Lino Urdaneta
ag.. Shane Victorino

Drafted, but returned or traded before start of season
a.. Colter Bean
b.. Frank Brooks
c.. Cecil Cooper 1970 by St Louis Cardinals, returned to Boston 1971
d.. Javier López
e.. Mike Myers
f.. James Vermilyea
g.. Fernando Vina
h.. John Wetteland

Drafted, but kept by drafting team without having to stay on the 25 man
roster all season by virtue of a trade
a.. Willy Taveras
b.. Mitch Williams
c.. Marshall McDougall
d.. Levale Speigner
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