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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:02 am
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how many times has a pitcher pitched a CG in which he faced *less* than 27
hitters and the game was *not* shortened by rain, darkness, or any other
extenuating circumstance?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Steve wrote: > brink wrote: > > > how many times has a pitcher pitched a CG in which he faced less than 27 > > hitters and the game was not shortened by rain, darkness, or any other > > extenuating circumstance? > > > > brink > > > > > In other words, he faced 24-26 hitters in 8 innings and took the loss? It would have to be 25-26, wouldn't it? >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:41 am Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Seapig" <seapig DeleteThis @altavista.com> wrote in message news:1127480977.150727.156530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Steve wrote: >> brink wrote: >> >> > how many times has a pitcher pitched a CG in which he faced less than >> > 27 >> > hitters and the game was not shortened by rain, darkness, or any >> > other >> > extenuating circumstance? >> > >> > brink >> > >> > >> In other words, he faced 24-26 hitters in 8 innings and took the loss? > > It would have to be 25-26, wouldn't it? > Yes, someone's gotta score for him to take a loss. >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Visiting team only - 24 for 8 complete innings or 25 and 26 for 9 plus with a walk off something. "Seapig" <seapig RemoveThis @altavista.com> wrote in message news:1127480977.150727.156530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Steve wrote: >> brink wrote: >> >> > how many times has a pitcher pitched a CG in which he faced less >> > than 27 >> > hitters and the game was not shortened by rain, darkness, or any >> > other >> > extenuating circumstance? >> > >> > brink >> > >> > >> In other words, he faced 24-26 hitters in 8 innings and took the >> loss? > > It would have to be 25-26, wouldn't it? > >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"sfb" <sfb.TakeThisOut@spam.net> wrote in message news:LNTYe.21$y64.9@trnddc06... > Visiting team only - 24 for 8 complete innings or 25 and 26 for 9 plus > with a walk off something. No, not correct. He couldn't face 24 hitters in 8 innings and still take the loss. Minimum of 25. Somebody's gotta cross the plate. Bill G P.S. Please stop top-posting. >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

Edward Ruggeri

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:30:27 -0500, sfb <sfb RemoveThis @spam.net> wrote: > Don't bet the house on your definition. Only pitcher credited with > innings, but not only warm body to throw a pitch. > > MLB Rule 10.19 "No pitcher shall be credited with pitching a shutout > unless he pitches the complete game, or unless he enters the game with > none out before the opposing team has scored in the first inning, puts > out the side without a run scoring and pitches all the rest of the > game." Interesting, but wrong. Here, it obviously distinguishes a CG from the second situation. Both qualify for a shutout, though. -- Ned Ruggeri >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Please stop bottom-posting. "Bill G" <rbatty00.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:huUYe.6221$845.5709@fe03.lga... > "sfb" <sfb.TakeThisOut@spam.net> wrote in message news:LNTYe.21$y64.9@trnddc06... >> Visiting team only - 24 for 8 complete innings or 25 and 26 for 9 >> plus with a walk off something. > > No, not correct. He couldn't face 24 hitters in 8 innings and still > take the loss. Minimum of 25. Somebody's gotta cross the plate. > > > Bill G > > P.S. Please stop top-posting. > >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

Edward Ruggeri

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:45:19 -0500, sfb <sfb DeleteThis @spam.net> wrote: > Please stop bottom-posting. > > "Bill G" <rbatty00 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:huUYe.6221$845.5709@fe03.lga... >> "sfb" <sfb DeleteThis @spam.net> wrote in message news:LNTYe.21$y64.9@trnddc06... >>> Visiting team only - 24 for 8 complete innings or 25 and 26 for 9 >>> plus with a walk off something. >> >> No, not correct. He couldn't face 24 hitters in 8 innings and still >> take the loss. Minimum of 25. Somebody's gotta cross the plate. >> >> >> Bill G >> >> P.S. Please stop top-posting. >> > > Dude, it's just a convention. He asked politely. >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

My reply was as polite as his. "Edward Ruggeri" <ruggeri.TakeThisOut@uchicago.edu> wrote in message news:op.sxj880qr7qi7tm@ned-ruggeri.uchicago.edu... > On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:45:19 -0500, sfb <sfb.TakeThisOut@spam.net> wrote: > >> Please stop bottom-posting. >> >> "Bill G" <rbatty00.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:huUYe.6221$845.5709@fe03.lga... >>> "sfb" <sfb.TakeThisOut@spam.net> wrote in message >>> news:LNTYe.21$y64.9@trnddc06... >>>> Visiting team only - 24 for 8 complete innings or 25 and 26 for 9 >>>> plus with a walk off something. >>> >>> No, not correct. He couldn't face 24 hitters in 8 innings and still >>> take the loss. Minimum of 25. Somebody's gotta cross the plate. >>> >>> >>> Bill G >>> >>> P.S. Please stop top-posting. >>> >> >> > > Dude, it's just a convention. He asked politely. >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:02:26 -0700, "brink" <brink DeleteThis @invalid.invalid> wrote: >how many times has a pitcher pitched a CG in which he faced less than 27 >hitters and the game was not shortened by rain, darkness, or any other >extenuating circumstance? In the minors, all the time I would imagine. (Minor-league doubleheaders have two seven-inning games, I believe). -- James Farrar . @gmail.com >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

Realto Margarino

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:20 am Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

sfb <sfb.RemoveThis@spam.net> trolled: [top-posting deleted, unread] >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:20 am Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Realto Margarino" <rm.DeleteThis@biteme.org> wrote in message news:_B3Ze.189$Bi.72925@news20.bellglobal.com... > sfb <sfb.DeleteThis@spam.net> trolled: > > [top-posting deleted, unread] Thanks. He keeps top-posting just to be contrarian. BG >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: how often has this happened? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 23 Sep 2005 22:29:43 -0400, grabiner.RemoveThis@alumni.princeton.edu (David J. Grabiner) wrote: >"Edward Ruggeri" <ruggeri.RemoveThis@uchicago.edu> writes: > >> On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:30:27 -0500, sfb <sfb.RemoveThis@spam.net> wrote: >> >> > Don't bet the house on your definition. Only pitcher credited with >> > innings, but not only warm body to throw a pitch. >> > >> > MLB Rule 10.19 "No pitcher shall be credited with pitching a shutout >> > unless he pitches the complete game, or unless he enters the game with >> > none out before the opposing team has scored in the first inning, puts >> > out the side without a run scoring and pitches all the rest of the >> > game." >> >> Interesting, but wrong. Here, it obviously distinguishes a CG from the >> second situation. Both qualify for a shutout, though. > >For example, when Ernie Shore turned in the best relief performance in >history (26 batters and one CS, 27 outs) he got a shutout but not a >complete game. It was considered a perfect game for years also, wasn't it? Tom >> Stay informed about: how often has this happened?

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