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Michael Lanasa

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:35 am
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Post All-Star game numbers:

Carlos Lee:
283 AB .358 OBP .512 SLG .870 OPS

Matt Murton:

207 AB .390 OBP .522 SLG .912 OPS

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Eric Margheim

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:29 am
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"Michael Lanasa" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Post All-Star game numbers:
>
> Carlos Lee:
> 283 AB .358 OBP .512 SLG .870 OPS
>
> Matt Murton:
>
> 207 AB .390 OBP .522 SLG .912 OPS

What are Jones numbers? If they're going to get Lee it would be to replace
Jones as far as I'm concerned. Murton deserves a full shot in 07.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:43 am
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"Eric Margheim" <NOSPAM***ericm@charter.net***NOSPAM> wrote in
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> "Michael Lanasa" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> Post All-Star game numbers:
>>
>> Carlos Lee:
>> 283 AB .358 OBP .512 SLG .870 OPS
>>
>> Matt Murton:
>>
>> 207 AB .390 OBP .522 SLG .912 OPS
>
> What are Jones numbers? If they're going to get Lee it would
> be to replace Jones as far as I'm concerned. Murton deserves
> a full shot in 07.
>

Absolutely - Murton may very well continue to grow into a power
hitter - like Sandberg & Palmeiro.



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Michael Lanasa

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:17 am
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"Eric Margheim" <NOSPAM***ericm@charter.net***NOSPAM> wrote in
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> "Michael Lanasa" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> Post All-Star game numbers:
>>
>> Carlos Lee:
>> 283 AB .358 OBP .512 SLG .870 OPS
>>
>> Matt Murton:
>>
>> 207 AB .390 OBP .522 SLG .912 OPS
>
> What are Jones numbers? If they're going to get Lee it would be
> to replace Jones as far as I'm concerned.

Jones is signed for 2 more years. Only two teams had interest in
Jones when he was a free agent last season, so that contract may be
difficult to unload (but not impossible).

Also, my contention is that Lee is overrated and not worth signing
to a long term deal worth 13-15M per. His production is not that
much higher than Jones at more than double the salary.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:27 am
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"Michael Lanasa" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Eric Margheim" <NOSPAM***ericm@charter.net***NOSPAM> wrote in
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>> "Michael Lanasa" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:H86dnbILzvS6xL_YnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Post All-Star game numbers:
>>>
>>> Carlos Lee:
>>> 283 AB .358 OBP .512 SLG .870 OPS
>>>
>>> Matt Murton:
>>>
>>> 207 AB .390 OBP .522 SLG .912 OPS
>>
>> What are Jones numbers? If they're going to get Lee it would be
>> to replace Jones as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Jones is signed for 2 more years. Only two teams had interest in
> Jones when he was a free agent last season, so that contract may be
> difficult to unload (but not impossible).
>
> Also, my contention is that Lee is overrated and not worth signing
> to a long term deal worth 13-15M per. His production is not that
> much higher than Jones at more than double the salary.

Soriano?
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Lance Freezeland

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:18 pm
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On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:29:04 -0500, "Eric Margheim"
<NOSPAM***ericm@charter.net***NOSPAM> gave us:
>"Michael Lanasa" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> Post All-Star game numbers:

>> Carlos Lee:
>> 283 AB .358 OBP .512 SLG .870 OPS

>> Matt Murton:

>> 207 AB .390 OBP .522 SLG .912 OPS

>What are Jones numbers? If they're going to get Lee it would be to replace
>Jones as far as I'm concerned. Murton deserves a full shot in 07.

Jones:
245 AB 301 PA 261/332/465
..797 OPS

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:25 pm
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Michael Lanasa wrote:
> "Eric Margheim" <NOSPAM***ericm@charter.net***NOSPAM> wrote in
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>
>>"Michael Lanasa" <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>>Post All-Star game numbers:
>>>
>>>Carlos Lee:
>>>283 AB .358 OBP .512 SLG .870 OPS
>>>
>>>Matt Murton:
>>>
>>>207 AB .390 OBP .522 SLG .912 OPS
>>
>>What are Jones numbers? If they're going to get Lee it would be
>>to replace Jones as far as I'm concerned.
>
>
> Jones is signed for 2 more years. Only two teams had interest in
> Jones when he was a free agent last season, so that contract may be
> difficult to unload (but not impossible).
>

He can be released or relegated to the bench. One key point
to remember is that this offseason the Cubs don't have to
behave in a consistent conservative way. Showing the fans
they want to win takes precedence over defending past decisions.

ray heitmann
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:25 pm
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User Name <heitmann DeleteThis @math.utexas.edu> wrote:
> Michael Lanasa wrote:
> > "Eric Margheim" <NOSPAM***ericm@charter.net***NOSPAM> wrote in
> > news:%lvUg.8$J01.7@newsfe04.lga:
> >>"Michael Lanasa" <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
> >>news:H86dnbILzvS6xL_YnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>
> >>>Post All-Star game numbers:
> >>>Carlos Lee:
> >>>283 AB .358 OBP .512 SLG .870 OPS
> >>>
> >>>Matt Murton:
> >>>207 AB .390 OBP .522 SLG .912 OPS
> >>
> >>What are Jones numbers? If they're going to get Lee it would be
> >>to replace Jones as far as I'm concerned.
> >
> > Jones is signed for 2 more years. Only two teams had interest in
> > Jones when he was a free agent last season, so that contract may be
> > difficult to unload (but not impossible).
>
> He can be released or relegated to the bench. One key point
> to remember is that this offseason the Cubs don't have to
> behave in a consistent conservative way. Showing the fans
> they want to win takes precedence over defending past decisions.

Well, like it or not (or like him or not), Jones put up good (not
great) numbers this year. I've never truly understood the concept that
some posters here advocate about 'selling' a player at 'peak' value
before... at least until this year. If this is not a clear case of it,
I don't know what is.

Jones has likely had his best year ever, but we need more/better
offensive output in the outfield (especially). Some more teams have
*got* to be interested in him after this year, and Hendry may be able
to get some real value for him.


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