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"Dale Hicks" <dgh1138.RemoveThis@southernbell.com> wrote in message
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> In article <6haujnFkida5U1.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
> colintwilliam.RemoveThis@hotmail.com says...
>> ....would anny opposing team pitch to McCann or Chipper within this
>> lineup?
>>
>> Woah nelly, this team really sucks.
>
> You have no perspective. The 80's Braves were just some team that
> played that Yank sport to you. 54-106 really sucks. This team just
> kinda sucks.
>
> --
> Cranial Crusader dgh 1138 at bell south point net

Yea, but the 80's Braves were on TV everyday and they had Skip calling the
games. Plus expectations were always low and there was always the potention
for 'next year.'
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Sounds like a slightly better (and taller) version of Rafael Belliard.
Although for what we needed Belliard for, he produced. So Francoeur is
actually worse than Belliard was.

Also, the Braves need to play .500 ball to finish with fewer than 90 losses.
Looks like the Braves future is their past... only without the lowercase "a"
on the cap.
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>> ....would anny opposing team pitch to McCann or Chipper within this
>> lineup?
>>
>> Woah nelly, this team really sucks.
>
> You have no perspective. The 80's Braves were just some team that
> played that Yank sport to you. 54-106 really sucks. This team just
> kinda sucks.


Careful... 54-106 is still possible.
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In article <Ie2sk.7306$Ks1.3866@newsfe02.iad>, jpmccord DeleteThis @hotmail.com
says...
> >> ....would anny opposing team pitch to McCann or Chipper within this
> >> lineup?
> >>
> >> Woah nelly, this team really sucks.
> >
> > You have no perspective. The 80's Braves were just some team that
> > played that Yank sport to you. 54-106 really sucks. This team just
> > kinda sucks.
>
>
> Careful... 54-106 is still possible.

Is Francoueuer somehow going to cost us three games we've already
won? That _is_ bad.

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Cranial Crusader dgh 1138 at bell south point net
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"Dale Hicks" <dgh1138.DeleteThis@southernbell.com> wrote
>> Woah nelly, this team really sucks.
>
> You have no perspective. The 80's Braves were just some team that
> played that Yank sport to you. 54-106 really sucks. This team just
> kinda sucks.

The team as it's currently constructed, post-Tex, has gone 8-17, an even
worse winning% than 54-106...

Colin
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"JPM III" <jpmccord RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote
> Sounds like a slightly better (and taller) version of Rafael Belliard.
> Although for what we needed Belliard for, he produced. So Francoeur is
> actually worse than Belliard was.

Oh yeah, once you adjust for position it isn't even close. Stenchy's having
the worst full season of any Brave since those nasty 80s teams. It's not
2008 Andruw bad or Tony pena Jr bad, but those guys are having historically
bad seasons. Stenchy looks good in comparison to them. But he still sucks.

> Also, the Braves need to play .500 ball to finish with fewer than 90
> losses. Looks like the Braves future is their past... only without the
> lowercase "a" on the cap.

The Braves have lost the ever-optimistic JPM. The era truly is over!

Colin
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"Colin William" <colintwilliam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Oh, and the update on Frenchy. Since coming back from crushing AA pitching
> he's hit 222/287/304 in 150 PA. That is Rey Ordonez an d later-year Keith
> Lockhart territory. His season line is in the neighborhood of what we got
> from Rico Brogna and Raul Mondesi.
>
> Ask yourself this question - who would you rather see at bat with the game
> on the line - Stenchy or Mike Hampton?

I'm not sure what has happened to Franceour's bat this year. He almost
never drives the ball anymore. His approach, which wrongly gets praised by
the announcers, seems to be dinking opposite field bloops as the optimal
outcome. Does he ever hit the ball hard? I don't think this is the league
adjusting to his batting style, his scouting report had already widely been
known for at least a year before this one. I hope in the off-season he gets
a new hitting coach.
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On Aug 24, 7:05 pm, "Chris Zabel" <Alephn....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I'm not sure what has happened to Franceour's bat this year.  He almost
> never drives the ball anymore.  His approach, which wrongly gets praised by
> the announcers, seems to be dinking opposite field bloops as the optimal
> outcome.  Does he ever hit the ball hard?  I don't think this is the league
> adjusting to his batting style, his scouting report had already widely been
> known for at least a year before this one.  I hope in the off-season he gets
> a new hitting coach.

It might be the league adjusting the way it did to Reggie Sanders from
1996-97 (after the Braves found and exploited his kill zone in the '95
playoffs.) Or it might just be that Francouer is just out of his
league. I think that's the piece that most "what's happened to
Frenchy" discussions miss. They start from the premise that he was
once at least good and then proceed to "how'd he get this bad?" The
correct starting point is "he was always bad, just hiding beneath
glossy triple-crown stats and a lineup that saved him so much
embarrassment, and now he's lost the lineup and the triple-crown
sheen." Any player is one deviation away from "where'd he come from "
or "where'd he go?" Freedom had absolutely no ground to give, and
when he took that little step backward he lost his only useful
attribute, his power, and fell off the cliff.

I'd personally be surprised if he is anything other than a fourth
outfielder (by production, not actual playing time) from here on out.

s/
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"Colin William" <colintwilliam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ....would anny opposing team pitch to McCann or Chipper within this
> lineup?
>
> Woah nelly, this team really sucks.

At least they won't lose today.
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:00:07 -0400, "Colin William"
<colintwilliam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> gave us:
>"JPM III" <jpmccord.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote

>> Sounds like a slightly better (and taller) version of Rafael Belliard.
>> Although for what we needed Belliard for, he produced. So Francoeur is
>> actually worse than Belliard was.

>Oh yeah, once you adjust for position it isn't even close. Stenchy's having
>the worst full season of any Brave since those nasty 80s teams. It's not
>2008 Andruw bad or Tony pena Jr bad, but those guys are having historically
>bad seasons. Stenchy looks good in comparison to them. But he still sucks.

I had to explain to the people sitting around us yesterday afternoon
why I was yelling "Nice throw, Stenchy!" when Francouer air-mailed
that throw over second base and all the way into foul territory behind
third.

--
Lance

"There are three-hundred thousand sportswriters
and they're all against me. Every one of them."
-- Joaquin Andujar


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