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bushdoctor48

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Since: Jan 14, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:17 pm
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Are the Jays not takeing a shot a grabbing
Bedard from the O's.

The O's are trying to work a deal with
the Mariner's for prosects.

Bedard is asking for 8 mill and apparently
the O's offered 6 mill.Bedard is sheduled
for arbittation soon.
Pretty cheap by todays inflated standards.
A down right bargin compared to what
the jays have spent on duds in recent
pitcher deals imho.

http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1&aid=22871543


Surley the Jays could but together a better
package for Bedard even if they had to
include Rios as the O's are looking for
a new cf and a closer.The jays have
a couple of young arms they could part
with as well.
Rios was apparently being shopped around recently anyway.


Thoughts?

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Stephen Wood

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:17 am
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First off the Angleos will not trade in the division. The guy has
vetoed trades before and I don't think he, or really the Jays for that
matter, want to trade in the division.

Also to be honest I don't think the Jays need to give up Rios in a
trade for Bedard and would not necessarily benefit from it.....

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:17:57 -0500, bushdoctor48.RemoveThis@webtv.net wrote:

>Are the Jays not takeing a shot a grabbing
>Bedard from the O's.
>
>The O's are trying to work a deal with
>the Mariner's for prosects.
>
>Bedard is asking for 8 mill and apparently
>the O's offered 6 mill.Bedard is sheduled
>for arbittation soon.
>Pretty cheap by todays inflated standards.
>A down right bargin compared to what
>the jays have spent on duds in recent
>pitcher deals imho.
>
>http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1&aid=22871543
>
>
>Surley the Jays could but together a better
>package for Bedard even if they had to
>include Rios as the O's are looking for
>a new cf and a closer.The jays have
>a couple of young arms they could part
>with as well.
>Rios was apparently being shopped around recently anyway.
>
>
>Thoughts?

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bushdoctor48

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:37 am
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Date: Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 6:17am (EST+5) From: swood4.DeleteThis@telus.net
(Stephen Wood)

First off the Angleos will not trade in the division. The guy has vetoed
trades before and I don't think he, or really the Jays for that matter,
want to trade in the division.
................................./reply

>Yes that seems to be the trend these
days,and Bedard is up for arbitration
next month and is asking for 8mill.
You can bet the Yanks and the Bo
Sox,would be licking their collective
chops though 8 mill is a bargain basement
special these days.
Especially since Santana looks like he
has gone to the Mets.
...................................../

Also to be honest I don't think the Jays need to give up Rios in a trade
for Bedard and would not necessarily benefit from it.

.................................../reply
>Maybe not Rios but you can never have
enough quality pitching it has cost the
Jays repeatedly over the last how many seasons of the so called 5 year
rebuild
by da baston beek.

Most of the big bucks jp has spent in the
last few years have spent over 50% of
the season riding the pines.

Bredard has better credentials than
almost every starter on the the Jays
roster except for Doc who is not getting
any younger.And has gone down to injury
two seasons in a row now.
And certainly better than AJ,who they
spent a small fortune multi year deal
on.

Rios was rumored to have been shopped
around by jp at the winter meetings with
no takers,jp seems to have penchant for overloading the infield and
neglecting the
obvious,and then blaming it on his players

In the end they may loose Rios to arbitration anyway.

And now jp has signed on another questionable player who refused a
medical before joining the team last
season and quashed the deal.

http://sports.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?aid=7717480&acid=2&af...&avid=7

The team has a better than avg offence,
but imho you can never have enough
pitching.Bedard would be a welcome
addition to any franchise especially the
Jays imho.

Watch how fast he gets scooped up if
the O's don't come to terms and probably
for more long green than he is asking for.
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Brian Matthews

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:45 pm
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Bill Kawalec

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:49 pm
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"Brian Matthews" <noonecares.TakeThisOut@ddd.com> wrote in message
news:hdvbq3hjhhgeqsnf7bhtaluhoaqfs3o6b6@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:17:57 -0500, bushdoctor48.TakeThisOut@webtv.net wrote:
>
>>Are the Jays not takeing a shot a grabbing
>>Bedard from the O's.
>>
>>The O's are trying to work a deal with
>>the Mariner's for prosects.
>>
>>Bedard is asking for 8 mill and apparently
>>the O's offered 6 mill.Bedard is sheduled
>>for arbittation soon.
>>Pretty cheap by todays inflated standards.
>>A down right bargin compared to what
>>the jays have spent on duds in recent
>>pitcher deals imho.
>>
>>http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1&aid=22871543
>>
>>
>>Surley the Jays could but together a better
>>package for Bedard even if they had to
>>include Rios as the O's are looking for
>>a new cf and a closer.The jays have
>>a couple of young arms they could part
>>with as well.
>>Rios was apparently being shopped around recently anyway.
>>
>>
>>Thoughts?
>
>
> Thoughts? Other than that you're a TOTAL moron?
> How's it feel, bushiebabie?



I suspect that he's the guy I heard, in the late 80s, on a Jays postgame
phone-in show, suggesting that they should trade Dave Stieb (this is after
Stieb had gone south, you see) for "somebody like Randy Johnson." Apparenly
not grasping the basic concepts:
1) you want a quality player, you must give up a quality player (or
prsopect)
2) you DO NOT make a trade that's just going to create another hole for you.







>
> Brian
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bushdoctor48

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:25 pm
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Thoughts? Other than I am a
total moron,and a bald faced liar.
With delusions of grandeur and a
severe inferiority complex.
Please forgive me bill and let me post
in the tiger ng again.I promise to behave
and follow your example and stop trolling
other ng's.
I am so scared out here all by myself.
Everybody hates me and I am so
desperate.


Brian




Give the poor little goober a break. He has to have SOMETHING to hang
his hat on or he might slit his wrists.
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