On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:33:11 GMT, "GOBUCKS!" <GOBUCKS.RemoveThis@tOSU.net> wrote:
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>"Steve" <steveoneill.RemoveThis@alltel.net> wrote in message
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>> "barry" <toisan_boy.RemoveThis@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> a few writers have suggested that the indians will keep marte on the
>>> roster. hmm. i suppose we could fit him in.
>>>
>> And some players are career AAA players.
again, marte did well at every minor league level even though he was
among the youngest in every league. the statistical correlation to
becoming a stud major leaguer is extremely high.
>> I agree that Marte should and will get every possible chance at 3B.
>> Blake has the ability and attitude, I believe, to be a very capable
>> utility
>> player off the bench. But - this team coulda/shoulda won the AL last year.
i put that more on sabathia more than anybody else. he got jacked up
and tried to blow people away instead of making the sox hit *his*
pitches. it's the same thing that magnifies detroit's spotty bullpen
problems IMO - ya gotta pitch smarter and get into the 7th & 8th
innings before you hit your pitch count.
>> If Marte is batting .150 again at the beginning of May for a .500
>> ballclub, something will need done.
1) marte is playing winter ball, hopefully his problems at the plate
can solved then
2) his playing at 1B makes me think the worst case scenario is for him
to take over gomez role from last season.
>>> assuming we carry 10 pitchers, we've got 15 roster spots and these
>>> starters & folks i consider a lock to make the roster:
>>>
>>> 1B - garko
>>> 2B - cabrera
>>> SS - peralta
>>> 3B - blake
>>> C - martinez/shoppach
>>> LF - michaels/delucci
>>> CF - sizemore
>>> RF - gutierrez
>>> DH - hafner
>>>
>>> along with carroll, (which leaves barfield out) and francisco.
>>
>> I still don't see why Carroll over Barfield or Chris Gomez.
gomez is 34. marte would be cheaper.
>> You may be onto something with your O'Dowd theory, though.
>> Was that Heineken inspired insight?
i'm much more a cognac kinda guy.
actually, someone reported that shapiro was vague about *when* the
decision would be made. since shapiro tends to be a straight shooter,
what he doesn't say can also mean a lot - now that i think about it,
the player *could* actually be jamie carroll - assume that any
proposed trades fall through, and we still have barfield, cabrera &
peralta, AND denver can't land a FA 2B, denver would probably want
him back.
and maybe this lights a fire underneath barfield? maybe it's a
misdirection to make people think that a middle infielder is being
shopped? who knows for sure?
finally, o'dowd used to be with the indians and they're not rivals in
any way so i imagine that they have quite a good relationship and are
good enough friends so as to be able to come to this kind of
agreement.
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>>> what I don't get:
>>>
>>> texas signing milton bradley. WTF is hart thinking?
>> Why would anyone sign that idiot?
he did hit .308 last year. but the guy's anger just sabotages him so
badly.
>>> detroit going after more hitting when their bullpen still sucks
>> Maybe DW is going to the bullpen?
>> You have to wonder if he has arm problems.
DW did admit to being hurt last year, but kenny rogers is what, 200
years old? he's going to get hurt again. having another LHP helps line
up your rotation against other teams, otherwise teams can load up on
lefties in the batting order.
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>>> "any words spelled incorrectly are probably typing errors"
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>>
>When I first heard of the move I went looking for his stats and then sat
>back, cracked open a Sam Adams and said, WTF? Why do they sign this guy
>over Gomez or Barfield? Maybe he will surprise us but this move leaves me
>thinking that more moves are on the horizon.
i read somewhere that suggested that barfield might be out of options.
don't know if that's true but if it is, hmmm.
i want to believe that barfield is going to turn it around. his dad
was a major leaguer and the bloodline is there. if so, then we've
clearly got a logjam. but if he doesn't, then this way, barfield can
play at AAA and work out whatever kinks he's got in his approach
instead of riding the bench and not getting AB's.
peralta's hitting allows us to get away with less production from the
edges - the best teams tend to be strong up the middle: C P SS CF.
if we can get decent production out of 3B and our corner OF positions,
we can afford to do with a weaker bat at SS and put in somebody with
better defensive abilities. also, we're pretty slow when comes to
foot speed on the bases. cabrera & barfield both have speed and would
look good near the top of the lineup, especially if barfield could
eventually lead off and allow us to move sizemore down around hafner,
garko, martinez. maybe it's not manny and ortiz, but if we could add
marte & gutierrez to that mix, that'd be sufficient to smack around
just about any rotation in the league.
but realistically:
sizemore
cabrera
hafner
martinez
peralta
garko
blake/marte
gutierrez/francisco
michaels/dellucci
is still a decent lineup, and every position except #2 is
statistically capable of producing at least 20 HRs and 80 RBIs.
positions 7-9:
- blake was 18 & 78, close enough IMO
- both gutierrez AND francisco had numbers that projected out to 20 &
80 and in only 400 ABs. one of those guys has got to come through
- i've said enough about this platoon - but if dellucci isn't
recovered or isn't doing it, give his ABs to francisco or even snyder
and play michaels exclusively against LHP and any RHP he's done well
against in the past
that doesn't give opposing starters any breathing space, and hopefully
cabrera benefits from having 3-4-5 behind him giving him good pitches
to swing at the way vizquel did when he got moved into the #2 slot.
with lofton on base, i'm sure that he saw a lot more fastballs.
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