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Bill Kawalec

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:19 pm
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go reproduce yourself!



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<bushdoctor48.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> bk>
>
> ok, in this case, I stated that badly. If there WERE two outs, then it
> makes no difference whether first base is occupied. Both batter and
> runner can advance then
>
> doc>
>
> Well good but it only took you five posts
> to admit you may have gotten it a bit
> wrong.:>)
>

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:21 pm
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<bushdoctor48 RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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> >MH
> Yes. I remember the announcers tellin a story where this happened to I
> *THINK* a Blue Jays shortstop (Afredo or Tony, I think) or maybe 2B and
> they later said they thought about swinging on a really wild pitch to
> make it strike 3 and run for 1st. I don't think they *ACTUALLY* did it
> though
>
>
>>Doc
>
> Remember the controversial play during
> the ws a couple of years ago when the
> ump clearly signaled the out sign,but
> Persinsky I think it was ran to first and
> was given the base,turning the whole
> series around.


it was ALCS and it's Pierzynski
and you have the audacity to critize anything anyone else
posts?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?





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>
> Because it was later ruled the ball hit
> the ground on the third strike before
> the catcher had it in his glove.
>
>
> Not quite the same thing but all the same
> it cost the other team dearly.
>

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:22 pm
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> "Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> what part of it was wrong, sonny???
>
> Try reading Andrew Kerr's post, you never explained it properly,making it
> seem as if the batter had to be tagged even if the catcher did not misplay
> the 3rd strike pitch. Confusing OP even more, not directly answering the
> "why" . As "Jays finish 2nd" post pointed out -not even close.
>
> Do you have to be spoon fed everything? There is difference between
> thinking and typing on usenet.



foo
not one word of what I stated was wrong
except maybe to those who have some perverse need to always be proving
others wrong.





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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:02 pm
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bk>
and the Jays' runs in the 8th were legitimate?? C'mon, be fair. It was a
bad day, and the weather was a factor both ways. If Ordonez doesn't dive
for a ball he should have stayed back on, it's not even close


Doc
Remember the controversial play during
the ws a couple of years ago when the
ump clearly signaled the out sign,but
Persinsky I think it was ran to first and was given the base,turning the
whole
series around.

bk>
it was ALCS and it's Pierzynski
and you have the audacity to critize anything anyone else posts?!?!

doc>
You got me there,it was the alcs
as far as my spelling of the players
name.well excuse me I did know
it was a spelling contest ok.

The point I was trying to make was
the dynamics of what can and does
happen in the in the afore mentioned
case,by MH.

As far as spelling mistakes you could
write a book on yours,as in the above
example FAIR is where clowns hang
out the word is FARE.
And you even got the word critize
wrong bk it is criticize just for the
record.

I was not trying to be derogatory to you
this season,but it appears you want
to start the same old flame wars.so
again you proved me wrong I
digress.

regards

doc
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:16 pm
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"Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> <Gary.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > I notice sometimes after a batter takes strike three, that the
> > catcher sometimes scrambles to tag the batter. Why? Under what
> > circumstances does strike three not mean "You're out!"?
>
>
>
> If first base is not occupied, the out is not completed unless/until the
> catcher tags the batter.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:18 pm
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"Andrew Kerr" <apkerr.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bill Kawalec wrote:
> > <Gary.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> >> I notice sometimes after a batter takes strike three, that the
> >> catcher sometimes scrambles to tag the batter. Why? Under what
> >> circumstances does strike three not mean "You're out!"?
> >
> >
> >
> > If first base is not occupied, the out is not completed unless/until the
> > catcher tags the batter. Thus, if the catcher does not field the ball,
the
> > batter can attempt to take first base.
> > EXCEPTION: with two outs, the batter must be tagged regardless of any
base
> > being occupied.
> >
>
> Just to clarify, this only happens if the catcher drops the ball,
> doesn't catch it cleanly (like if it gets caught in his uniform or
> something), or the ball hits the ground on strike three. The catcher can
> tag the batter, OR he can throw the ball to first base to complete the
out.
>
> If the catcher makes a clean catch of strike three, the batter is
> automatically out.
>
> If you are keeping score...a "strikeout" is awarded to the pitcher even
> if the batter makes it to first. The batter would reach first on a
> passed-ball or wild-pitch or some other fielding error.

Neither a passed ball nor a wild pitch is charged as an error. However, runs
scored as the result of a passed ball (in the judgment of the official
scorer) are unearned.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:24 pm
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"Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> <Gary.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > I notice sometimes after a batter takes strike three, that the
> > catcher sometimes scrambles to tag the batter. Why? Under what
> > circumstances does strike three not mean "You're out!"?
>
>
>
> If first base is not occupied, the out is not completed unless/until the
> catcher tags the batter.

It is if the catcher catches the ball on the fly.
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