Typical Cub Year

Mark Anderson wrote:
> In article abundy.RemoveThis@later.com says...
>> End of the season...Cubs firmly in last place.
>
> At least Ernie Banks will get his statue. This is all Cub fans care
> about.
>
>

Come on....How many times do we have to read the same thing from you.

Ernie deserves a statue even if the Cubs lose 162 games a year for the
next century....Give us all a break....Please!

tks
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In article tks.RemoveThis@somewhere.net says...
> Come on....How many times do we have to read the same thing from you.
>
> Ernie deserves a statue even if the Cubs lose 162 games a year for the
> next century....Give us all a break....Please!

This is the time of the year when Hope Springs Eternal transforms into
frustration, disappointment, hopelessness, and indignation. Another
year, another wasted summer. It amazes me how a team like the Marlins
with 1/9 the salary of the Cubs can leisurely come to town and sweep the
Cubs. Every year about this time I reflect upon how this can be. How
can one team be so damned unlucky. The Cubs spend plenty of money,
they're one of the most valuable teams in MLB, and play in one of the
largest baseball markets. How can they lose this consistently?

I suspect a lot of this has to do with the fact that fans expect the
Cubs to lose, so they do. The Ernie Banks statue will only emphasize
this phenomenon. Throughout Ernie's career not one of his teams ever
won their division and one year they had the worst record in Cubs'
history. Michael Jordan on the other hand rung up six championships.
The Bulls have an organization that wants to win, acquires players to
win, and puts up statues of winners. The Cubs have an organization that
doesn't seem to care or know how to win, acquires players that lose, and
puts up statues of players who represented teams who were pathetic
losers. You may get your wish -- we'll go another century of pathetic
Cub teams -- but at least you can stand outside Wrigley and admire a
statue. Maybe the Cubs should put up one for Ron Santo too.
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Mark Anderson wrote:

>
> I suspect a lot of this has to do with the fact that fans expect the
> Cubs to lose, so they do. The Ernie Banks statue will only emphasize
> this phenomenon. Throughout Ernie's career not one of his teams ever
> won their division and one year they had the worst record in Cubs'
> history. Michael Jordan on the other hand rung up six championships.
> The Bulls have an organization that wants to win, acquires players to
> win, and puts up statues of winners. The Cubs have an organization that
> doesn't seem to care or know how to win, acquires players that lose, and
> puts up statues of players who represented teams who were pathetic
> losers. You may get your wish -- we'll go another century of pathetic
> Cub teams -- but at least you can stand outside Wrigley and admire a
> statue. Maybe the Cubs should put up one for Ron Santo too.
>


IMO, you are way off base in your reasoning.

The Cubs will not be honoring the era in which Banks played, nor the
teams he played on, nor the Cub franchise.

This is simply honoring a great player who happens to be a great asset
to baseball and a great player for the Cubs.

It has *nothing* to do with honoring the Cubs as a losing franchise.

tks
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In article tks DeleteThis @somewhere.net says...
> The Cubs will not be honoring the era in which Banks played, nor the
> teams he played on, nor the Cub franchise.

Perhaps not but that's what visitors will think when they see a statue.
As HOF players go, Ernie Banks was just average. Visitors who see him
adorned in bronze will realize how pathetic the Cubs have been these
last 100 years when all we have to show is an average HOF player. And
right by Ernie's statue will be a broadcaster who didn't even spend the
majority of his career with the Cubs. Us Cub fans already look like
desperate country bumkins in need of something to celebrate with the
statue of that St. Louis broadcaster, showing off to the world a statue
that Ernie Banks represents our best screams why the Cubs have always
sucked.

> This is simply honoring a great player who happens to be a great asset
> to baseball and a great player for the Cubs.

Statues honoring great people belong in cemeteries. The way the Cubs
are playing, perhaps Wrigley may be baseball's cemetery. It has been a
place for has been players at the end of their careers to find a home so
they can play a few extra years.

> It has *nothing* to do with honoring the Cubs as a losing franchise.

Maybe not to you, it does to outsiders, to the world, to everyone not
from here who visits Wrigley. It speaks volumes as to what kind of
people Cub fans are -- loyal losers and a little desperate for any kind
of success no matter how trivial.
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"Mark Anderson" <mea.TakeThisOut@nospambrandylion.com> wrote in message

>> It has *nothing* to do with honoring the Cubs as a losing franchise.
>
> Maybe not to you, it does to outsiders, to the world, to everyone not
> from here who visits Wrigley. It speaks volumes as to what kind of
> people Cub fans are -- loyal losers and a little desperate for any kind
> of success no matter how trivial.

Mark, with all due respect, I fail to see how you can speak for all those
people you mention, much less those of us Cubs fans who had the privilege of
watching an outstanding baseball player who defined loyalty and played at a
level of Hall of Fame excellence for eighteen years----despite the crew he
was surrounded by.

And what is wrong with being an "average HOF player"?

But I do agree with you on the Caray statue.
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