Twins ask Seattle about Beltre

On Jul 15, 2:25 pm, powrwrap <powrw....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 1:46�pm, S. Smith <scott.sm....TakeThisOut@iphouse.com> wrote:
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> > DETROIT - The Twins recently contacted Seattle to inquire about third
> > baseman Adrian Beltre as they look for ways to boost their offense
> > against lefthanded pitching, a club source said.
>
> Beltre is pretty much the same vs. lefties or righties.
>
> Career
> righties .270/.320/.461
> lefties  .272/.349/.448
>
> > Beltre, 29, is batting .259 with 16 homers and 46 RBI. He is regarded
> > as an excellent defensive player, having won the Gold Glove at third
> > last year, and could be rejuvenated by being in a pennant chase. He is
> > being paid $12 million this season and again in 2009.
>
> Correction: $12.9 million. Note that he would be a free agent before
> the new ballpark opens.
>
> He had one stellar year which he parlayed into a $13M a year salary.
> So if you bat .270 and can hit 25 HRs a year you get $13M.
>
> He would solve the 3B problem the Twins have had since Koskie left the
> team. I do like the Buscher kid, but Gardenhire won't bat him against
> lefties. I like the idea, it shows the Twins are serious about winning
> this year, but it depends on who the Twins give up to get him.

I think I might be inclined to go with Buscher (What's wrong with him,
really?) and use any extra money floating around for some help in the
bullpen. I mean the best scenario I can think of is trading Livan for
a reliever and bringing up No-no.

No?

brianj
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On Jul 15, 4:29 pm, brianj <firstp....TakeThisOut@turtlecreek.net> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 2:25 pm, powrwrap <powrw....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Jul 15, 1:46�pm, S. Smith <scott.sm....TakeThisOut@iphouse.com> wrote:
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> > > DETROIT - The Twins recently contacted Seattle to inquire about third
> > > baseman Adrian Beltre as they look for ways to boost their offense
> > > against lefthanded pitching, a club source said.
>
> > Beltre is pretty much the same vs. lefties or righties.
>
> > Career
> > righties .270/.320/.461
> > lefties  .272/.349/.448
>
> > > Beltre, 29, is batting .259 with 16 homers and 46 RBI. He is regarded
> > > as an excellent defensive player, having won the Gold Glove at third
> > > last year, and could be rejuvenated by being in a pennant chase. He is
> > > being paid $12 million this season and again in 2009.
>
> > Correction: $12.9 million. Note that he would be a free agent before
> > the new ballpark opens.
>
> > He had one stellar year which he parlayed into a $13M a year salary.
> > So if you bat .270 and can hit 25 HRs a year you get $13M.
>
> > He would solve the 3B problem the Twins have had since Koskie left the
> > team. I do like the Buscher kid, but Gardenhire won't bat him against
> > lefties. I like the idea, it shows the Twins are serious about winning
> > this year, but it depends on who the Twins give up to get him.
>
> I think I might be inclined to go with Buscher (What's wrong with him,
> really?) and use any extra money floating around  for some help in the
> bullpen.  I mean the best scenario I can think of is trading Livan for
> a reliever and bringing up No-no.
>
> No?

Better yet, see if you can snag Beltre for a song (Seattle probably
just wants rid of the contract, since they're not likely to compete
next year either). Then trade Hernanzez for a box of Cracker Jacks and
bring up the organization's best pitcher. You've improved your offense
AND your defense.

And since I'm dreaming, maybe they can find a setup man on the cheap.
Bullpen help never fetches the premium starting pitching or offense
command.

If those three things happened, I'd be inclined to believe the Twins
might just win this thing.

Matt
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"Matt" <AcesWired.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 15, 4:29 pm, brianj <firstp....DeleteThis@turtlecreek.net> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 2:25 pm, powrwrap <powrw....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 15, 1:46�pm, S. Smith <scott.sm....DeleteThis@iphouse.com> wrote:
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> > > DETROIT - The Twins recently contacted Seattle to inquire about third
> > > baseman Adrian Beltre as they look for ways to boost their offense
> > > against lefthanded pitching, a club source said.
>
> > Beltre is pretty much the same vs. lefties or righties.
>
> > Career
> > righties .270/.320/.461
> > lefties .272/.349/.448
>
> > > Beltre, 29, is batting .259 with 16 homers and 46 RBI. He is regarded
> > > as an excellent defensive player, having won the Gold Glove at third
> > > last year, and could be rejuvenated by being in a pennant chase. He is
> > > being paid $12 million this season and again in 2009.
>
> > Correction: $12.9 million. Note that he would be a free agent before
> > the new ballpark opens.
>
> > He had one stellar year which he parlayed into a $13M a year salary.
> > So if you bat .270 and can hit 25 HRs a year you get $13M.
>
> > He would solve the 3B problem the Twins have had since Koskie left the
> > team. I do like the Buscher kid, but Gardenhire won't bat him against
> > lefties. I like the idea, it shows the Twins are serious about winning
> > this year, but it depends on who the Twins give up to get him.
>
> I think I might be inclined to go with Buscher (What's wrong with him,
> really?) and use any extra money floating around for some help in the
> bullpen. I mean the best scenario I can think of is trading Livan for
> a reliever and bringing up No-no.
>
> No?

Better yet, see if you can snag Beltre for a song (Seattle probably
just wants rid of the contract, since they're not likely to compete
next year either). Then trade Hernanzez for a box of Cracker Jacks and
bring up the organization's best pitcher. You've improved your offense
AND your defense.

And since I'm dreaming, maybe they can find a setup man on the cheap.
Bullpen help never fetches the premium starting pitching or offense
command.

If those three things happened, I'd be inclined to believe the Twins
might just win this thing.

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The best "trade" they could pull off is bringing up Cisco and putting Livan
in the pen for now. I think keeping him is not a bad idea as someone is
bound to get hurt.

As much as it would be nice to get another arm, I'd think they have enough
plus arms to make it work with Crain, Guerrier, and Nathan, not to mention
Reyes and Breslow who have done fine jobs. Sure, it would be nice to add
another arm, but as many have said you usually overpay for bullpen help
midseason.

brink
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> On Jul 16, 12:44�am, "brink" <brinknos... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> The best "trade" they could pull off is bringing up Cisco and putting Livan
> in the pen for now. �I think keeping him is not a bad idea as someone is
> bound to get hurt.

So what? Trade Livan. If someone gets hurt anybody they put in there
would do a better job than Livan. Bring up Mulvey (3.84 ERA, 1.39
WHIP) or Duensing (4.28 ERA, 1.27 WHIP).
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:44:08 -0700, "brink" <brinknospam DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
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>The best "trade" they could pull off is bringing up Cisco and putting Livan
>in the pen for now. I think keeping him is not a bad idea as someone is
>bound to get hurt.

I agree 100%. It's time to get Liriano back and to take Hernandez out
of the starting rotation for now.




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> On Jul 17, 12:45�pm, S. Smith <scott.sm....DeleteThis@iphouse.com> wrote:
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> What is the trade deadline, July 31st?

Yes, for trades that don't need to clear waivers. For trades that must
clear waivers the deadline is August 31st.
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT), powrwrap <powrwrap RemoveThis @aol.com>
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>> On Jul 16, 12:44?am, "brink" <brinknos... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> The best "trade" they could pull off is bringing up Cisco and putting Livan
>> in the pen for now. ?I think keeping him is not a bad idea as someone is
>> bound to get hurt.
>
>So what? Trade Livan. If someone gets hurt anybody they put in there
>would do a better job than Livan. Bring up Mulvey (3.84 ERA, 1.39
>WHIP) or Duensing (4.28 ERA, 1.27 WHIP).


Good point. And with Livan's strong start, there might actually be
some takers out there.




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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT), powrwrap <powrwrap RemoveThis @aol.com>
wrote:

>> On Jul 16, 12:44?am, "brink" <brinknos... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> The best "trade" they could pull off is bringing up Cisco and putting Livan
>> in the pen for now. ?I think keeping him is not a bad idea as someone is
>> bound to get hurt.
>
>So what? Trade Livan. If someone gets hurt anybody they put in there
>would do a better job than Livan. Bring up Mulvey (3.84 ERA, 1.39
>WHIP) or Duensing (4.28 ERA, 1.27 WHIP).


What is the trade deadline, July 31st?




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