Trevor: May 10 - May 30

> Let's face it: we've been spoiled for 14 years by one of the best
> closers of all time. When he has a Bad day, we're too ready to
> put a fork on him.

Does it not concern you at all that left handers are hitting .382 off him?
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:01:38 -0700, "badlands420" <bung.RemoveThis@hole.com>
wrote:

>
>> Let's face it: we've been spoiled for 14 years by one of the best
>> closers of all time. When he has a Bad day, we're too ready to
>> put a fork on him.
>
>Does it not concern you at all that left handers are hitting .382 off him?
>

Yes it does, but I'm encouraged the righties are batting just .190.
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Now if we can only get opposing teams to bat nothing but righties against
him...
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 05:53:05 -0700, "Akiva" <someone.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:

>Now if we can only get opposing teams to bat nothing but righties against
>him...
>

Lefty batting average against Hoffman is now down to .325.

But we are talking about 13 hits in 40 at-bats, so the sample
size is pretty small.

4 of the 5 extra base hits Trevor has allowed this year,
however, have been by lefties, so that is a concern.
Ditto, 5 of the 6 walks are against lefty batters.

OTOH, he has struck out 15 of the 40 left-handers
he has faced this year, vs. 12 of 46 vs. righties.
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On Jun 7, 1:00 pm, Hoover <Hoo....DeleteThis@cst.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 05:53:05 -0700, "Akiva" <some....DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> >Now if we can only get opposing teams to bat nothing but righties against
> >him...
>
> Lefty batting average against Hoffman  is now down to .325.
>
> But we are talking about 13 hits in 40 at-bats, so the sample
> size is pretty small.
>
> 4 of the 5 extra base hits Trevor has allowed this year,
> however, have been by lefties, so that is a concern.
> Ditto, 5 of the 6 walks are against lefty batters.
>
> OTOH,  he has struck out 15 of the 40 left-handers
> he has faced this year,  vs. 12  of  46  vs.  righties.




I hope, for Trevor's sake, that you swallow.
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:26:53 -0700 (PDT), "Kurgan Gringioni."
<kgringioni DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> I swallow.


OK .... but not really on topic.
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"Hoover" <Hoover.TakeThisOut@cst.com> wrote in message
news:bvpl44123v2ljmtjgkq32mk34sl4hiqa53@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 05:53:05 -0700, "Akiva" <someone.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>Now if we can only get opposing teams to bat nothing but righties against
>>him...
>>
>
> Lefty batting average against Hoffman is now down to .325.
>
> But we are talking about 13 hits in 40 at-bats, so the sample
> size is pretty small.
>
> 4 of the 5 extra base hits Trevor has allowed this year,
> however, have been by lefties, so that is a concern.
> Ditto, 5 of the 6 walks are against lefty batters.
>
> OTOH, he has struck out 15 of the 40 left-handers
> he has faced this year, vs. 12 of 46 vs. righties.

It's been my feeling that part of Trevor's problem this season (especially
with lefties), as well as several other pitchers in key situations, has been
the pitch calling of Barrett.
I've noticed that he seems to fall in love with a pitch and call the same
pitch several times in a row.
He did this in that crucial AB against T.Gwynn Jr. in Milwaukee at the end
of the season... had Hoffy throw him nothing but changeups the entire AB...
and like a smart hitter, he started to recognize it and adjusted to it.
He's done it several times this season. One of Hoffy's blown saves came on a
rip where he threw nothing but fastballs to a pretty good hitter.

Hoffman's still a very good pitcher, but with a fastball that tops out at
about 86-87, his game is keeping the batter off balance with the change and
occasional slider mixed in. Without the blazing fastball, there's little
margin for error if location is off. You can't throw several consecutive 86
MPH fastballs, or several consecutive changeups for that matter, to a decent
major league hitter without getting burned occasionally. If I'm noticing
this pattern, you can be certain that ML hitters (many of whom keep books on
pitchers) are going to pick up on it.
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:39:02 -0700, "K2" <K2PadFan.RemoveThis@padres.net> wrote:

>"Hoover" <Hoover.RemoveThis@cst.com> wrote in message
>news:bvpl44123v2ljmtjgkq32mk34sl4hiqa53@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 05:53:05 -0700, "Akiva" <someone.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Now if we can only get opposing teams to bat nothing but righties against
>>>him...
>>>
>>
>> Lefty batting average against Hoffman is now down to .325.
>>
>> But we are talking about 13 hits in 40 at-bats, so the sample
>> size is pretty small.
>>
>> 4 of the 5 extra base hits Trevor has allowed this year,
>> however, have been by lefties, so that is a concern.
>> Ditto, 5 of the 6 walks are against lefty batters.
>>
>> OTOH, he has struck out 15 of the 40 left-handers
>> he has faced this year, vs. 12 of 46 vs. righties.
>
>It's been my feeling that part of Trevor's problem this season (especially
>with lefties), as well as several other pitchers in key situations, has been
>the pitch calling of Barrett.
>I've noticed that he seems to fall in love with a pitch and call the same
>pitch several times in a row.
>He did this in that crucial AB against T.Gwynn Jr. in Milwaukee at the end
>of the season... had Hoffy throw him nothing but changeups the entire AB...
>and like a smart hitter, he started to recognize it and adjusted to it.
>He's done it several times this season. One of Hoffy's blown saves came on a
>rip where he threw nothing but fastballs to a pretty good hitter.
>
>Hoffman's still a very good pitcher, but with a fastball that tops out at
>about 86-87, his game is keeping the batter off balance with the change and
>occasional slider mixed in. Without the blazing fastball, there's little
>margin for error if location is off. You can't throw several consecutive 86
>MPH fastballs, or several consecutive changeups for that matter, to a decent
>major league hitter without getting burned occasionally. If I'm noticing
>this pattern, you can be certain that ML hitters (many of whom keep books on
>pitchers) are going to pick up on it.
>

Excellent analysis. I repeat, you should be a bench coach.
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"Hoover" <Hoover.TakeThisOut@cst.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:39:02 -0700, "K2" <K2PadFan.TakeThisOut@padres.net> wrote:
>
>>"Hoover" <Hoover.TakeThisOut@cst.com> wrote in message
>>news:bvpl44123v2ljmtjgkq32mk34sl4hiqa53@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 05:53:05 -0700, "Akiva" <someone.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Now if we can only get opposing teams to bat nothing but righties
>>>>against
>>>>him...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Lefty batting average against Hoffman is now down to .325.
>>>
>>> But we are talking about 13 hits in 40 at-bats, so the sample
>>> size is pretty small.
>>>
>>> 4 of the 5 extra base hits Trevor has allowed this year,
>>> however, have been by lefties, so that is a concern.
>>> Ditto, 5 of the 6 walks are against lefty batters.
>>>
>>> OTOH, he has struck out 15 of the 40 left-handers
>>> he has faced this year, vs. 12 of 46 vs. righties.
>>
>>It's been my feeling that part of Trevor's problem this season (especially
>>with lefties), as well as several other pitchers in key situations, has
>>been
>>the pitch calling of Barrett.
>>I've noticed that he seems to fall in love with a pitch and call the same
>>pitch several times in a row.
>>He did this in that crucial AB against T.Gwynn Jr. in Milwaukee at the end
>>of the season... had Hoffy throw him nothing but changeups the entire
>>AB...
>>and like a smart hitter, he started to recognize it and adjusted to it.
>>He's done it several times this season. One of Hoffy's blown saves came on
>>a
>>rip where he threw nothing but fastballs to a pretty good hitter.
>>
>>Hoffman's still a very good pitcher, but with a fastball that tops out at
>>about 86-87, his game is keeping the batter off balance with the change
>>and
>>occasional slider mixed in. Without the blazing fastball, there's little
>>margin for error if location is off. You can't throw several consecutive
>>86
>>MPH fastballs, or several consecutive changeups for that matter, to a
>>decent
>>major league hitter without getting burned occasionally. If I'm noticing
>>this pattern, you can be certain that ML hitters (many of whom keep books
>>on
>>pitchers) are going to pick up on it.
>>
>
> Excellent analysis. I repeat, you should be a bench coach.

Heh, heh... )
Maybe those 13 years I spent managing my company-league softball team paid
off! ;oD
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