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Realto Margarino

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:02 am
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If he can still bring it for the Red Sox, why isn't he still in
Toronto? He was always a good pitcher in Toronto. He's one of the
guys they should have kept.

cordially, as always,

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:39 am
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"Realto Margarino" <rm.RemoveThis@justlinux.ca> wrote in message
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> If he can still bring it for the Red Sox, why isn't he still in
> Toronto? He was always a good pitcher in Toronto. He's one of the
> guys they should have kept.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
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> http://sports.jrank.org/pages/4065/Rose-Pete-Awards-Accomplishments.html
>

Lets face it. When he was in Toronto, he was stinking up the joint on a
regular basis. They dealt him and Paul Spoljaric at the deadline to Seattle
for Jose Cruz Jr. which at the time was widely considered around baseball to
be an absolute coup for the Blue Jays. Cruz Jr. turned into a mediocre
player, but when he was acquired he was believed to be the best outfield
prospect in baseball and compared to Griffey Jr. Ironically, the same
Seattle Mariners traded Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe to the Bosox on the
same day for Heathcliff Slocumb.

I remember being ecstatic when the Jays made the Cruz Jr. trade.

Tunnel.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:05 am
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On Oct 30, 8:39 am, "Tunnel ©" <r....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
> "Realto Margarino" <r....TakeThisOut@justlinux.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:n3cVi.301612$vo5.155170@fe04.news.easynews.com...
>
> > If he can still bring it for the Red Sox, why isn't he still in
> > Toronto? He was always a good pitcher in Toronto. He's one of the
> > guys they should have kept.
>
> > cordially, as always,
>
> > rm
> > --
> >http://sports.jrank.org/pages/4065/Rose-Pete-Awards-Accomplishments.html
>
> Lets face it. When he was in Toronto, he was stinking up the joint on a
> regular basis. They dealt him and Paul Spoljaric at the deadline to Seattle
> for Jose Cruz Jr. which at the time was widely considered around baseball to
> be an absolute coup for the Blue Jays. Cruz Jr. turned into a mediocre
> player, but when he was acquired he was believed to be the best outfield
> prospect in baseball and compared to Griffey Jr. Ironically, the same
> Seattle Mariners traded Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe to the Bosox on the
> same day for Heathcliff Slocumb.
>
> I remember being ecstatic when the Jays made the Cruz Jr. trade.
>
> Tunnel.

Timlin was the Jay's closer and couldn't handle the role. The Mariners
brought Timlin in as a set-up guy where he's always been more
comfortable. Ironically Slocumb was so bad Timlin got the job and
performed adequately. Cruz Jr. seemed like a 5 tool, blue chipper but
never realized his potential.

It could have been a spectacular deal for the Jays if Chris Johnson's
favourite genuis GM, JP, had taken the Mets up on their offer of David
Wright. Instead he let him go for nothing.

Spin that as positive, CJ.
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bushdoctor48

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:36 pm
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Just some food for thought on Timlin.

He has shown great longevity as a pitcher
and a cool head in key pitching situations
over his long career,he is 13th in all time
appearances as a pitcher.

That is a pretty heady stat considering
the number of pitchers who have played
in the majors over it's history.

Like many at the time I was not sad to
see him depart from Toronto,especially
for the highly touted Cruz Jr.But he
sure did not live up to his billing in a Jays
uni.(Cruz)

I have always thought he was a risk in
crucial game situations,but he has sure
proved me wrong over the years and
now has his third ws ring to boot.

He may not have ever been the closer
extordinare but he has proved to be one
of the steadiest set up men in the game
and especially in post season play.

Timlin is just one in a long line of players
the Jays brain trust has given up on for
various reasons over the years.

But the trade for Cruz looked to be a
great deal at the time,and was not
under the fumbling watch of Jp.who
continues to show an ever lengthening
list of bad ideas and trades.His so
called five year plan has been pretty
much a disaster looking for a place
to happen and the future looks just
as dismal.



Jp has left more holes to fill than any
of his predecessors combined,and has
decimated a once great farm system and
scouting team for his money ball stats
selections who continue to wallow in
mediocrity.

As does the team on a whole.

It was even hard to take watching one
of jp's prize winning debacles Eric Hinske
cavort around after Bostons world series
win the other night.

Who should have been dealt far sooner
than his fluke of a rookie year season
ever indicated,because he soon should
his true talent was highly over rated,but
ends up on a ws winner anyway.
And the Jays as per usual got nothing
for him in the end.
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