Tiger games in Hi-Def

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:35:29 -0500, "Bill Kawalec"
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>
>"Brian Matthews" <noonecares DeleteThis @ddd.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:24:30 -0500, "John Poutre"
>> <mehatespam DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"SkippyPB" <swiegand DeleteThis @Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:02:15 -0500, JWitzke DeleteThis @webtv.net (John A Witzke)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>skippy a. smith:
>>>>>
>>>>>Too bad. Best sport on the planet.
>>>>>
>>>>>==================================
>>>>>
>>>>>i wouldn't watch it if it were being played on the small of jessica
>>>>>alba's back...if the term "best" actually means "most boring," then this
>>>>>would be one of those rare times that we're in agreement
>>>>
>>>> Basketball boring??????????????? I suppose you think a "watching
>>>> paint dry more exciting" sport like soccer is better. And baseball?
>>>> Don't get me started. A very exciting game to see in person. But
>>>> sitting home on the couch watching it I find so exciting I usually
>>>> fall asleep.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Not boring but the NBA today is ho hum to watch. They can't shoot
>>>anymore,
>>>no real personalities in the NBA, alot of unknowns in the game. No
>>>fundamentals because they play 1 year of college and come out without
>>>learning the game the way they need to.
>>>
>>>Dunking in basketball is kind of like HR's in baseball these days, there
>>>are
>>>so many, it's mostly not a big deal.
>>>
>>>In a perfect world, if all players went and played 4 years in college and
>>>then went to the NBA, it will improve the NBA 5000%. They would learn the
>>>game where they should be learning, in college. You would get to know
>>>players. I know this will never happen but I believe that the whole
>>>reason
>>>it sucks now in the NBA is because of all the early entries....
>>>
>>
>>
>> Same as baseball. Young players are rushed to the majors because of
>> immediate need. They never get a chance to learn the fundamentals at
>> the minor league level.
>>
>> This entire discussion is way OT.
>
>
>
>Not ""OT"" at all, especially if one looks at the header of this thread.
>Every spring, there will be TV ""critics"" writing about how baseball
>doesn't work on television. I contend that they're just not fans of The
>Game.

I've followed baseball and the Tigers (and NY/SF Giants) nearly all of
my life. As a young kid I'd listen to the games at night on my
transistor radio and then when we could afford a TV, I watched the
Saturday games (usually the Cubs where I lived). I've been to many
games in many different parks, usually all Tiger games. I've even
been to some AA and AAA games as well. So, I can say from my
perspective that the game is NOT made for TV. While you're at the
game, you get a feeling for what's going on. There's an ambiance at
the ball park that doesn't translate over TV. Listening to the game
on the radio with a skilled announcer like Ernie Harwell, you get a
sense of being at the game. Look at how many people bring radios to
the game so they can hear and watch. But for whatever reason, those
things do not come across on TV. Sure the World Series and playoff
games bring their own built in excitement but everyday games just
don't always live up to that.

In my opinion, the failure of baseball on TV lies at the feet of MLB
and the announcers. MLB has no time limit. Pitchers and hitters can
stall a pitch for what seems like an eternity. This is not exciting.
Sitting there watching on TV a regular nine inning game that can take
over 3 hours is not exciting. I could even forgo some excitement if
the announcers were skilled in keeping it at least interesting. But
too many of them drone on and on about some point they made four
innings ago. Boring! To tell the truth, the only announcers I can
tolerate on TV now are John Miller and Joe Morgan. Tony Gwynn I think
will eventually become a very good color guy, but he's not there yet.
And I can't stand Joe Buck. Don't like him doing football either. I
liked his dad, but he's not worthy to stand in senior's shadow.

Bob Costas, with the right color guy, isn't too bad. And another guy
they could throw off TV and I'd never miss is Tim McCarver. And he's
paired with Joe Buck a lot, so for me it's a double whammy.

Regards,

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"SkippyPB" <swiegand DeleteThis @Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:35:29 -0500, "Bill Kawalec"
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>>"Brian Matthews" <noonecares DeleteThis @ddd.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:24:30 -0500, "John Poutre"
>>> <mehatespam DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"SkippyPB" <swiegand DeleteThis @Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:02:15 -0500, JWitzke DeleteThis @webtv.net (John A Witzke)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>skippy a. smith:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Too bad. Best sport on the planet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>==================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i wouldn't watch it if it were being played on the small of jessica
>>>>>>alba's back...if the term "best" actually means "most boring," then
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>would be one of those rare times that we're in agreement
>>>>>
>>>>> Basketball boring??????????????? I suppose you think a "watching
>>>>> paint dry more exciting" sport like soccer is better. And baseball?
>>>>> Don't get me started. A very exciting game to see in person. But
>>>>> sitting home on the couch watching it I find so exciting I usually
>>>>> fall asleep.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Not boring but the NBA today is ho hum to watch. They can't shoot
>>>>anymore,
>>>>no real personalities in the NBA, alot of unknowns in the game. No
>>>>fundamentals because they play 1 year of college and come out without
>>>>learning the game the way they need to.
>>>>
>>>>Dunking in basketball is kind of like HR's in baseball these days, there
>>>>are
>>>>so many, it's mostly not a big deal.
>>>>
>>>>In a perfect world, if all players went and played 4 years in college
>>>>and
>>>>then went to the NBA, it will improve the NBA 5000%. They would learn
>>>>the
>>>>game where they should be learning, in college. You would get to know
>>>>players. I know this will never happen but I believe that the whole
>>>>reason
>>>>it sucks now in the NBA is because of all the early entries....
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Same as baseball. Young players are rushed to the majors because of
>>> immediate need. They never get a chance to learn the fundamentals at
>>> the minor league level.
>>>
>>> This entire discussion is way OT.
>>
>>
>>
>>Not ""OT"" at all, especially if one looks at the header of this thread.
>>Every spring, there will be TV ""critics"" writing about how baseball
>>doesn't work on television. I contend that they're just not fans of The
>>Game.
>
> I've followed baseball and the Tigers (and NY/SF Giants) nearly all of
> my life. As a young kid I'd listen to the games at night on my
> transistor radio and then when we could afford a TV, I watched the
> Saturday games (usually the Cubs where I lived). I've been to many
> games in many different parks, usually all Tiger games. I've even
> been to some AA and AAA games as well. So, I can say from my
> perspective that the game is NOT made for TV. While you're at the
> game, you get a feeling for what's going on. There's an ambiance at
> the ball park that doesn't translate over TV. Listening to the game
> on the radio with a skilled announcer like Ernie Harwell, you get a
> sense of being at the game. Look at how many people bring radios to
> the game so they can hear and watch. But for whatever reason, those
> things do not come across on TV. Sure the World Series and playoff
> games bring their own built in excitement but everyday games just
> don't always live up to that.
>
> In my opinion, the failure of baseball on TV lies at the feet of MLB
> and the announcers. MLB has no time limit. Pitchers and hitters can
> stall a pitch for what seems like an eternity. This is not exciting.
> Sitting there watching on TV a regular nine inning game that can take
> over 3 hours is not exciting.



Well, I'll agree that watching on TV is very different from being there,
but, for me, it still works. TV can give you a lot of insight you don't get
being at a game. HOWEVER, as for the slow aspects, well, I've ALWAYS wished
that TV would cover the game more in the manner that I watch while being at
a game. For instance, a foul ball is fielded by the ballboy/girl down in
foul territory. No harm in showing us the fan he/she gives the ball to. That
IS more interesting than seeing the hitter yet again adjust his batting
gloves, spit and grab his crotch...
p.s. I like Joe Buck. IMO, he has just the right amount of irreverence.
Don't like Joe Morgan. Agree with you on McCarver.



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I could even forgo some excitement if
> the announcers were skilled in keeping it at least interesting. But
> too many of them drone on and on about some point they made four
> innings ago. Boring! To tell the truth, the only announcers I can
> tolerate on TV now are John Miller and Joe Morgan. Tony Gwynn I think
> will eventually become a very good color guy, but he's not there yet.
> And I can't stand Joe Buck. Don't like him doing football either. I
> liked his dad, but he's not worthy to stand in senior's shadow.
>
> Bob Costas, with the right color guy, isn't too bad. And another guy
> they could throw off TV and I'd never miss is Tim McCarver. And he's
> paired with Joe Buck a lot, so for me it's a double whammy.
>
> Regards,
>
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> (o o)
> -oOO--(_)--OOo-
>
>
> "Love is when a girl puts on perfume and a boy puts on shaving
> cologne and they go out and smell each other."
> -- Karl - age 5
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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"Brian Matthews" <noonecares.RemoveThis@ddd.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:01:44 -0500, SkippyPB
> <swiegand.RemoveThis@Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Bob Costas, with the right color guy, isn't too bad. And another guy
>>they could throw off TV and I'd never miss is Tim McCarver. And he's
>>paired with Joe Buck a lot, so for me it's a double whammy.
>
>
> And I was glad to see Lou Pinella get a managing job. He was just
> horrible as an announcer.
>



yes he was.




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Brian Matthews wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:39:36 -0500, JWitzke.TakeThisOut@webtv.net (John A Witzke)
> wrote:
>
>> congress has never stopped direcTV from being the exclusive carrier of
>> the NFL sunday ticket, which is EXTREMELY more in-demand than MLB could
>> ever dream of their season pass becoming...the leading satellite
>> provider's deal with the NFL has even been renewed on at least one
>> occasion that i can recall...that was fairly recently, so it's likely
>> been inked a few different times...in other words, **precedent has
>> already been set,** so anyone who thinks crying to their local
>> representative is gonna do them any good is being naive, imho...as if
>> there aren't worse problems in the world for them to be sticking their
>> nose in anyway...i'm proud to have been a direcTV subscriber since '98,
>> and i will remain with them as long as they keep looking out for us
>> sports fans WAY more than any rip-off cable companies ever have
>
>
> My neighbors on both sides of me have DirecTV and they don't do
> anything but bitch about it. They both say if it's windy, rainy or
> snowing, they lose reception. They do pay less.....but you get what
> you pay for.
>
> I used to have MediaOne then Comcast bought them out. In the 17 total
> years, the cable has only gone out a few times. And I love their new
> DVR boxes.
>
> All in all, I'm happy with Comcast. Do I wish it were cheaper? Yes.
> But like I said, you get what you pay for.
>
> Brian

True dat... True dat....

Internet prices are a little ridiculous with Comcast though. I've been
thinking about looking elsewhere or at least threaten to cancel if they
can't match... Ever try that?
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"Rob Reichstetter" <pickthecrowdup.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Brian Matthews wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:39:36 -0500, JWitzke.RemoveThis@webtv.net (John A Witzke)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> congress has never stopped direcTV from being the exclusive carrier of
>>> the NFL sunday ticket, which is EXTREMELY more in-demand than MLB could
>>> ever dream of their season pass becoming...the leading satellite
>>> provider's deal with the NFL has even been renewed on at least one
>>> occasion that i can recall...that was fairly recently, so it's likely
>>> been inked a few different times...in other words, **precedent has
>>> already been set,** so anyone who thinks crying to their local
>>> representative is gonna do them any good is being naive, imho...as if
>>> there aren't worse problems in the world for them to be sticking their
>>> nose in anyway...i'm proud to have been a direcTV subscriber since '98,
>>> and i will remain with them as long as they keep looking out for us
>>> sports fans WAY more than any rip-off cable companies ever have
>>
>>
>> My neighbors on both sides of me have DirecTV and they don't do
>> anything but bitch about it. They both say if it's windy, rainy or
>> snowing, they lose reception. They do pay less.....but you get what
>> you pay for.
>>
>> I used to have MediaOne then Comcast bought them out. In the 17 total
>> years, the cable has only gone out a few times. And I love their new
>> DVR boxes. All in all, I'm happy with Comcast. Do I wish it were cheaper?
>> Yes.
>> But like I said, you get what you pay for.
>>
>> Brian
>
> True dat... True dat....
>
> Internet prices are a little ridiculous with Comcast though. I've been
> thinking about looking elsewhere or at least threaten to cancel if they
> can't match... Ever try that?



Tell ya what (and I know this from people who have had other services); when
it come to internet, no one else has the speed and reliability of Comcast.
Be sure you listen to them DSL commercials carefully. "Fastest internet
***for the price***." Comcast doesn't offer a $14.95 because they ain't that
slow.




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> Tell ya what (and I know this from people who have had other services);
> when it come to internet, no one else has the speed and reliability of
> Comcast. Be sure you listen to them DSL commercials carefully. "Fastest
> internet ***for the price***." Comcast doesn't offer a $14.95 because they
> ain't that slow.
>
>
>
>
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> I never read email at the Yahoo address!
>

You got that right. I've had my Comcast cable modem since December of '98.
In all those years, I've lost my connection just a couple of times.
Though I did just order DirecTV to replace my cable TV.
I'm keeping the cable modem though. They'll have to pry that from my dead
cold hands.
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On 2007-03-07, Bill Kawalec <billkawalec.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> "Rob Reichstetter" <pickthecrowdup.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:45EE06C8.6020107@comcast.net...
>> Brian Matthews wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:39:36 -0500, JWitzke.RemoveThis@webtv.net (John A Witzke)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> congress has never stopped direcTV from being the exclusive carrier of
>>>> the NFL sunday ticket, which is EXTREMELY more in-demand than MLB could
>>>> ever dream of their season pass becoming...the leading satellite
>>>> provider's deal with the NFL has even been renewed on at least one
>>>> occasion that i can recall...that was fairly recently, so it's likely
>>>> been inked a few different times...in other words, **precedent has
>>>> already been set,** so anyone who thinks crying to their local
>>>> representative is gonna do them any good is being naive, imho...as if
>>>> there aren't worse problems in the world for them to be sticking their
>>>> nose in anyway...i'm proud to have been a direcTV subscriber since '98,
>>>> and i will remain with them as long as they keep looking out for us
>>>> sports fans WAY more than any rip-off cable companies ever have
>>>
>>>
>>> My neighbors on both sides of me have DirecTV and they don't do
>>> anything but bitch about it. They both say if it's windy, rainy or
>>> snowing, they lose reception. They do pay less.....but you get what
>>> you pay for.
>>>
>>> I used to have MediaOne then Comcast bought them out. In the 17 total
>>> years, the cable has only gone out a few times. And I love their new
>>> DVR boxes. All in all, I'm happy with Comcast. Do I wish it were cheaper?
>>> Yes.
>>> But like I said, you get what you pay for.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>> True dat... True dat....
>>
>> Internet prices are a little ridiculous with Comcast though. I've been
>> thinking about looking elsewhere or at least threaten to cancel if they
>> can't match... Ever try that?
>
>
>
> Tell ya what (and I know this from people who have had other services); when
> it come to internet, no one else has the speed and reliability of Comcast.
> Be sure you listen to them DSL commercials carefully. "Fastest internet
> ***for the price***." Comcast doesn't offer a $14.95 because they ain't that
> slow.
>
>
>
>
Comcast also has a 2GB/month limit on newsgroup downloads. That is not
acceptable to me. That's about 3 audiobooks not to mention mp3 albums.
So for me it would be the asking price plus $14.95/month for newsserver
access. If they get rid of that limit I would get rid of DSL and go to
cable instantly.

Now to be a lurker on topic, is Placido on a tear or what? Man, can he
hit. Nice to see Shelton hit too. I don't remember seeing Shelton play
anywhere but 1st base, does he?
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"chuck" <chuck.DeleteThis@westmichigan.null> wrote in message
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> On 2007-03-07, Bill Kawalec <billkawalec.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Rob Reichstetter" <pickthecrowdup.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:45EE06C8.6020107@comcast.net...
>>> Brian Matthews wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:39:36 -0500, JWitzke.DeleteThis@webtv.net (John A Witzke)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> congress has never stopped direcTV from being the exclusive carrier of
>>>>> the NFL sunday ticket, which is EXTREMELY more in-demand than MLB
>>>>> could
>>>>> ever dream of their season pass becoming...the leading satellite
>>>>> provider's deal with the NFL has even been renewed on at least one
>>>>> occasion that i can recall...that was fairly recently, so it's likely
>>>>> been inked a few different times...in other words, **precedent has
>>>>> already been set,** so anyone who thinks crying to their local
>>>>> representative is gonna do them any good is being naive, imho...as if
>>>>> there aren't worse problems in the world for them to be sticking their
>>>>> nose in anyway...i'm proud to have been a direcTV subscriber since
>>>>> '98,
>>>>> and i will remain with them as long as they keep looking out for us
>>>>> sports fans WAY more than any rip-off cable companies ever have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My neighbors on both sides of me have DirecTV and they don't do
>>>> anything but bitch about it. They both say if it's windy, rainy or
>>>> snowing, they lose reception. They do pay less.....but you get what
>>>> you pay for.
>>>>
>>>> I used to have MediaOne then Comcast bought them out. In the 17 total
>>>> years, the cable has only gone out a few times. And I love their new
>>>> DVR boxes. All in all, I'm happy with Comcast. Do I wish it were
>>>> cheaper?
>>>> Yes.
>>>> But like I said, you get what you pay for.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>
>>> True dat... True dat....
>>>
>>> Internet prices are a little ridiculous with Comcast though. I've been
>>> thinking about looking elsewhere or at least threaten to cancel if they
>>> can't match... Ever try that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Tell ya what (and I know this from people who have had other services);
>> when
>> it come to internet, no one else has the speed and reliability of
>> Comcast.
>> Be sure you listen to them DSL commercials carefully. "Fastest internet
>> ***for the price***." Comcast doesn't offer a $14.95 because they ain't
>> that
>> slow.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Comcast also has a 2GB/month limit on newsgroup downloads. That is not
> acceptable to me. That's about 3 audiobooks not to mention mp3 albums.
> So for me it would be the asking price plus $14.95/month for newsserver
> access. If they get rid of that limit I would get rid of DSL and go to
> cable instantly.



many, if not most, ISPs don't offer newsgroup access at all. and hey, those
MP3 ""albums"" are illegal anyway.



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>
> Now to be a lurker on topic, is Placido on a tear or what? Man, can he
> hit. Nice to see Shelton hit too. I don't remember seeing Shelton play
> anywhere but 1st base, does he?
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