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Hockeyfox

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:28 pm
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Young's bat is starting to come around, but at this point who has received
the better end of the trade. Bartlett/Garza vs Young/Harris. Harris'
average is .245 compared to Bartlett's .254, but I would prefer Bartlett at
short. Garza has really pitched impressively and his ERA is 3.47 with a
respectable WHIP of 1.17. I would really like the prospect of replacing
Hernandez with Garza in the rotation. Perhaps Liriano will get his change
soon enough. If Young can continue to improve, this might be one of those
trades that improved both clubs.

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Matt

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:28 pm
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On Jul 2, 10:28 pm, "Hockeyfox" <some....TakeThisOut@microsoft.com> wrote:
>  I would really like the prospect of replacing
> Hernandez with Garza in the rotation.

The problem is that it wouldn't have worked out that way. Hernandez
was gonna get a spot regardless. Garza would be starting in place of
Perkins, Blackburn, or Slowey.

Granted, we'd all like him back. But the idea that it's be Garza over
Livan just doesn't hold water. It SHOULD be that way, but that's not
the reality of it.

Matt

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:28 pm
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"Hockeyfox" <someone.DeleteThis@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Young's bat is starting to come around, but at this point who has received
> the better end of the trade. Bartlett/Garza vs Young/Harris. Harris'
> average is .245 compared to Bartlett's .254, but I would prefer Bartlett
> at short. Garza has really pitched impressively and his ERA is 3.47 with
> a respectable WHIP of 1.17. I would really like the prospect of replacing
> Hernandez with Garza in the rotation. Perhaps Liriano will get his change
> soon enough. If Young can continue to improve, this might be one of those
> trades that improved both clubs.

It's not even close, Garza's been much better than Young and though Harris
is batting much better than Bartlett, Harris has the range of a statue and I
miss Bartlett's solid glove out there.

No way we can judge the trade this soon, especially with players this young,
but so far TB wins this one easily.

brink
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Dono Vox

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:18 am
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Hockeyfox wrote:
I would really like the prospect of replacing Hernandez with Garza in
the rotation.


Matt responded:
The problem is that it wouldn't have worked out that way. Hernandez was
gonna get a spot regardless. Garza would be starting in place of
Perkins, Blackburn, or Slowey.
Granted, we'd all like him back. But the idea that it's be Garza over
Livan just doesn't hold water. It SHOULD be that way, but that's not the
reality of it.
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But Hernandez is here only because the Twins traded Garza. If there's no
trade, there's no Hernandez. Garza would be starting alongside Perkins,
Blackburn and Slowey, not replacing one of them.

It was interesting the other night. Garza pitches 7 shutout innings and
Grant Balfour (remember him?) strikes out the side in the 9th for the
save.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:51 am
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On Jul 4, 8:18 am, Dono....DeleteThis@webtv.net (Dono Vox) wrote:
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> But Hernandez is here only because the Twins traded Garza. If there's no
> trade, there's no Hernandez. Garza would be starting alongside Perkins,
> Blackburn and Slowey, not replacing one of them.

Do we know this? I thought that the Twins signed Hernandez for that
mythical "veteran presence" after Santana and Silva were gone. I have
a feeling that would have happened regardless of the Garza trade.

Matt
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:55 am
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> On Jul 2, 10:31 pm, "brink" <brinknos....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Harris has the range of a statue

Curious, where do you get this impression that Harris has no range?
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