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Harlan Lachman

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:58 pm
Post subject: Taking out Santana for Schneider
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Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.

I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
rely on the bull pen.

harlan

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Doctor Chen

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:02 pm
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:58:58 -0400, Harlan Lachman
<hlachman RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:

>Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.
>
>I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
>rely on the bull pen.
>
>harlan

My thoughts exactly. If the Mets had a decent hitter I would
understand the move. But Schneider?

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JKconey

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:03 pm
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"Harlan Lachman" <hlachman.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.
>
> I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
> rely on the bull pen.
>
> harlan


I would have rather seen Endy than Brian... but this time it worked out.


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Johnny H.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:20 am
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:02:53 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:58:58 -0400, Harlan Lachman
><hlachman.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.
>>
>>I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
>>rely on the bull pen.
>>
>>harlan
>
>My thoughts exactly. If the Mets had a decent hitter I would
>understand the move. But Schneider?
>
>


Uh, Jerry Manual is a former AL manager of the year and you punks live
your lives on the internet. I'll trust his judgment over you two
bozos.
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O'Bob

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:20 am
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:58:58 -0400, Harlan Lachman
<hlachman RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:

>Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.
>
>I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
>rely on the bull pen.

Pretty funny. That's what I was thinking--It seemed like Santana
wanted to stay in, and he's a decent hitter. You're weighing the
chances of Schneider getting a hit, against our bullpen getting hit.
Not a gamble to be taken lightly.

Then bringing in Joe Smith, who failed to get anyone out last
time--and who immediately gave up a hit. Looked like it was going to
be a replay.
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Franke Carlino

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:58 am
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:02:53 -0400, Doctor Chen <drchen.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:58:58 -0400, Harlan Lachman
><hlachman.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.
>>
>>I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
>>rely on the bull pen.
>>
>>harlan
>
>My thoughts exactly. If the Mets had a decent hitter I would
>understand the move. But Schneider?
>


Are you saying that he's not a decent hitter?
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Grimm-RHD

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:43 pm
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On Aug 12, 10:02 pm, Doctor Chen <drc....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:58:58 -0400, Harlan Lachman
>
> <hlach....DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:
> >Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.
>
> >I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
> >rely on the bull pen.
>
> >harlan
>
> My thoughts exactly. If the Mets had a decent hitter I would
> understand the move. But Schneider?

Jerry went by the numbers. Schneider is not the sexy pick by any
stretch of the imagination but his numbers are far better than
Santana's. Post All-Star Break he's hitting .263 with a .348 OBP. In
August specifically he's hitting .353 with a .450 OBP.

Santana is barely a .151 hitter with a .196 OBP for the year. For a
pitcher he is a good hitter. But even Schneider is a better choice in
that situation. Now hindsight sees that Schneider did nothing...yet
so did Santana going 0-3 for the game. So in either case, the spot is
wasted.

Now granted, the question comes down to do you trust your bullpen.
For me that answer is still no. But Jerry's way of thinking is
obvious. The bullpen he has isn't going anywhere, he rather have them
pitch through what ever is going on in their heads, than to never use
them.

In either case, your going to need the bullpen down the stretch.
Using them against a bad hitting Nationals team seems like a good idea
to get them out of their funk, and for at least one night it has.

Grimm-RHD
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Grimm-RHD

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:57 pm
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On Aug 13, 5:39 pm, Harlan Lachman <hlach... DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote:
> In article <48a24f15$0$29516$607ed...@cv.net>, "JKconey" <s... DeleteThis @aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Harlan Lachman" <hlach... DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news:hlachman-EC0886.21585812082008@web.aioe.org...
> > > Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.
>
> > > I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
> > > rely on the bull pen.
>
> > > harlan
>
> > I would have rather seen Endy than Brian... but this time it worked out.
>
> JK, only because the Nats swung at balls. Feliciano could not get the
> ball in the strike zone.
>
> But moreover, the strategy to which I objected did not work. Schneider
> looked sick.
>
> We'd have done better letting Castro bat and having Murphy bat for
> Santana. Or, as I posted, letting Santana bat for himself.


I still say it looks like Jerry just went by the numbers. Though it
failed, Schneider's recent numbers are better.

Grimm-RHD
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Harlan Lachman

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:39 pm
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In article <48a24f15$0$29516$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "JKconey" <spam.RemoveThis@aol.com>
wrote:

> "Harlan Lachman" <hlachman.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hlachman-EC0886.21585812082008@web.aioe.org...
> > Manuel is auditioning for a job somewhere else.
> >
> > I have no idea why you would put in a worse hitter than Santana is and
> > rely on the bull pen.
> >
> > harlan
>
>
> I would have rather seen Endy than Brian... but this time it worked out.

JK, only because the Nats swung at balls. Feliciano could not get the
ball in the strike zone.

But moreover, the strategy to which I objected did not work. Schneider
looked sick.

We'd have done better letting Castro bat and having Murphy bat for
Santana. Or, as I posted, letting Santana bat for himself.
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