Surely it's time...

On May 8, 11:10 pm, "Bundo" <bundo....DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Gibbons fired after the latest debacle?

I wish someone would drive a stake through the heart of "formula
baseball". Pulling Marcum, despite pitching a no-hitter into the 6th,
to put in Fraser the stiff, is one of the most stupid things I have
seen the Jays do lately.
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On May 13, 3:50 pm, "Bill Kawalec" <billkawa....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On May 8, 11:10 pm, "Bundo" <bundo....RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Gibbons fired after the latest debacle?
>
> > I wish someone would drive a stake through the heart of "formula
> > baseball". Pulling Marcum, despite pitching a no-hitter into the 6th,
> > to put in Fraser the stiff, is one of the most stupid things I have
> > seen the Jays do lately.
>
> I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO WAY
> you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit.

Wish they could find an "old school" style manager who makes choices
based upon experience, and instinct rather then the miracle of
percentage stats. Replace Gibbons with a computer program, cheaper,
no contract to worry about, and if the program acts up you can always
reformat and reload.
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"Chuck" <barberphoto411.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 8, 11:10 pm, "Bundo" <bundo....RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Gibbons fired after the latest debacle?
>
> I wish someone would drive a stake through the heart of "formula
> baseball". Pulling Marcum, despite pitching a no-hitter into the 6th,
> to put in Fraser the stiff, is one of the most stupid things I have
> seen the Jays do lately.
>


I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO WAY
you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit.
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Hahahahah

They could put a computer in the jays dugout and tape a Jays hat on the
monitor!

I love it.


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> On May 13, 3:50 pm, "Bill Kawalec" <billkawa... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Chuck" <barberphoto... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > On May 8, 11:10 pm, "Bundo" <bundo... DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >> Gibbons fired after the latest debacle?
>>
>> > I wish someone would drive a stake through the heart of "formula
>> > baseball". Pulling Marcum, despite pitching a no-hitter into the 6th,
>> > to put in Fraser the stiff, is one of the most stupid things I have
>> > seen the Jays do lately.
>>
>> I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO WAY
>> you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit.
>
> Wish they could find an "old school" style manager who makes choices
> based upon experience, and instinct rather then the miracle of
> percentage stats. Replace Gibbons with a computer program, cheaper,
> no contract to worry about, and if the program acts up you can always
> reformat and reload.
>
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bk>wrote


I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO
WAY you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit

doc>
Well this may be a first,but I got to say
i agree with you bk,I always figured
gibbons was stupid and shows no
kind of backbone,my guess is ricky
recardo is pulling his strings like
a puppet.

It at least with all the injured players would have given a lift to the
teams
spirits,if nothing else.

There is nothing you can do about injures
all teams have that problem but they
sunk all their money into name players
to sell tickets.my bro and I shelled
out for a block of 28 home games
we will be lucky to give them away
now.

The farm teams are totally depleted
gona be a long summer.....

regards

doc
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<bushdoctor48.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> bk>wrote
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> I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO
> WAY you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit
>
> doc>
> Well this may be a first,but I got to say
> i agree with you bk,I always figured
> gibbons was stupid and shows no
> kind of backbone,my guess is ricky
> recardo is pulling his strings like
> a puppet.
Marcum himself said in the newspaper that he was exhausted and really
struggling at that point, obviously Gibbons knew this and pulled him.
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On May 17, 8:03 pm, "David Smith" <foo@localhost> wrote:
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> news:8718-4648FD24-161@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net...> bk>wrote
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> > I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO
> > WAY you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit
>
> > doc>
> > Well this may be a first,but I got to say
> > i agree with you bk,I always figured
> > gibbons was stupid and shows no
> > kind of backbone,my guess is ricky
> > recardo is pulling his strings like
> > a puppet.
>
> Marcum himself said in the newspaper that he was exhausted and really
> struggling at that point, obviously Gibbons knew this and pulled him.

How often does Frasor have to fail before Gibbons stops using him in
tight games?: Or Tallet, both seem to be holding their positions, more
due to lack of depth then performance.
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> <bushdoctor48 RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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>> bk>wrote
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>> I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO
>> WAY you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit
>>
>> doc>
>> Well this may be a first,but I got to say
>> i agree with you bk,I always figured
>> gibbons was stupid and shows no
>> kind of backbone,my guess is ricky
>> recardo is pulling his strings like
>> a puppet.
> Marcum himself said in the newspaper that he was exhausted and really
> struggling at that point, obviously Gibbons knew this and pulled him.



Either Marcum is a "team player" covering for his idiot manager after the
fact, or he's a wuss that I would not want on my team. If he WANTED out of
that game, he's a gutless, worthless A ball player. Yes, after six, I'd have
had someone up in the bullpen, but he's still going back out there
until/unless he gives up a hit.








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I think it's the former. He didn't want to cross Gibbons and make him look
like an absolute tool.

Gibbons pulling Litsch was a sound move...Gibbons pulling a guy throwing the
game of his life...was unbelievable. I still cannot believe it. At least
give him the ball until he gives up a hit for chrissakes.

BuNdO
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>>> bk>wrote
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>>> I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO
>>> WAY you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit
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>>> doc>
>>> Well this may be a first,but I got to say
>>> i agree with you bk,I always figured
>>> gibbons was stupid and shows no
>>> kind of backbone,my guess is ricky
>>> recardo is pulling his strings like
>>> a puppet.
>> Marcum himself said in the newspaper that he was exhausted and really
>> struggling at that point, obviously Gibbons knew this and pulled him.
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> Either Marcum is a "team player" covering for his idiot manager after the
> fact, or he's a wuss that I would not want on my team. If he WANTED out of
> that game, he's a gutless, worthless A ball player. Yes, after six, I'd
> have had someone up in the bullpen, but he's still going back out there
> until/unless he gives up a hit.
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"Bundo" <bundoman.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>I think it's the former. He didn't want to cross Gibbons and make him look
>like an absolute tool.


seems likely.



>
> Gibbons pulling Litsch was a sound move...Gibbons pulling a guy throwing
> the game of his life...was unbelievable. I still cannot believe it. At
> least give him the ball until he gives up a hit for chrissakes.



absolutely!!




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> BuNdO
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>>>> bk>wrote
>>>>
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>>>> I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO
>>>> WAY you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit
>>>>
>>>> doc>
>>>> Well this may be a first,but I got to say
>>>> i agree with you bk,I always figured
>>>> gibbons was stupid and shows no
>>>> kind of backbone,my guess is ricky
>>>> recardo is pulling his strings like
>>>> a puppet.
>>> Marcum himself said in the newspaper that he was exhausted and really
>>> struggling at that point, obviously Gibbons knew this and pulled him.
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>> Either Marcum is a "team player" covering for his idiot manager after the
>> fact, or he's a wuss that I would not want on my team. If he WANTED out
>> of that game, he's a gutless, worthless A ball player. Yes, after six,
>> I'd have had someone up in the bullpen, but he's still going back out
>> there until/unless he gives up a hit.
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bk lounge wrote>
I am incredulous!! Marcum had only thrown 78 pitches! IMO, there's NO
WAY you pull him unless/until he at least gives up a hit

SH>

I don't think anybody ask for your opinion
and never will in here,go back to the tigers
group and play with your friend the rose
guy or brian.AND STAY THERE.!

Regards
SH
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