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Joe Schmoe

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:44 am
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And most likely his career, IMO.

Smoltz to have season-ending shoulder surgery
Surgery could put career of 41-year-old in jeopardy

By DAVID O'BRIEN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 06/04/08
John Smoltz will have season-ending shoulder surgery that could also put the
career of the 41-year-old Braves pitcher in doubt.

The Braves have called a media conference at 11:30 a.m. at Turner Field to
be attended by Smoltz, general manager Frank Wren and manager Bobby Cox. A
Braves official confirmed surgery for Smoltz will be announced at the media
conference.

Smoltz, the only pitcher in history with at least 200 wins and 150 saves,
notched his 3,000th career strikeout earlier this season.

After spending nearly five weeks on the disabled list with inflammation of
the rotator cuff and biceps tendon in his throwing shoulder, he returned
from the DL Monday night and blew a save against Florida in his first relief
appearance in 44 months.

Smoltz had moved back to the bullpen from his preferred starting role as a
concession to persistent pain in his throwing shoulder. He had hoped he
could get through the season by pitching in one-inning stints and by
altering his pitching delivery and throwing sidearm.

He was charged with two runs, three hits and a blown save in the ninth
inning Monday against Florida, but the Braves came back and won 7-5 on Yunel
Escobar's walk-off homer in the 10th.

Smoltz converted 154 saves in 3 1/2 seasons as a closer through 2004
including a National League-record 55 saves in 2002.

He went 47-26 as a starter since the beginning of the 2005 season, including
3-2 with a 2.00 ERA in five starts this season before shoulder pain forced
him to the DL for the second time since March.

Smoltz has had four right-elbow surgeries and had said in recent years that
he wouldn't endure another arm surgery and long rehabilitation to prolong
his career. But on Monday he backed away from those statements and indicated
he would consider surgery and all other options.

The 1996 Cy Young Award winner has a 210-147 career record with 154 saves
and 3,011 strikeouts in 3,395 innings. Smoltz is also the winningest
postseason pitcher in history (15-4) and owns the record for postseason
strikeouts (194).

The likely future Hall of Famer is eligible for free agency after the 2008
season.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/06/04/smo..._0605.h

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Sam Hutcheson

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:44 am
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On 4 Jun, 11:40, Colin William <colintwill... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Stapler wrote:
> > Joe Schmoe wrote:
>
> >>And most likely his career, IMO.
>
> > Yup.
>
> I heard from a friend that he said on the radio today he wants to come
> back in 2009. If true, wow.

Mike Hampton has wanted to come back for the last three years. Smoltz
is 41, is having another surgery and will have a massive recovery
effort just to get back to normal usage, much less throwing a baseball
95 MPH. I'd say 70/30 he's done. I'd say 60/40 Glavine joins him in
retiring next year.

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Sam Hutcheson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:44 am
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On 4 Jun, 12:01, Colin William <colintwill....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sam Hutcheson wrote:
> > Mike Hampton has wanted to come back for the last three years.  Smoltz
> > is 41, is having another surgery and will have a massive recovery
> > effort just to get back to normal usage, much less throwing a baseball
> > 95 MPH.  I'd say 70/30 he's done.  I'd say 60/40 Glavine joins him in
> > retiring next year.
>
> And with Maddux also having mentioned retirement as an option it makes
> for one heck of a Hall of Fame ballot...

Yep. This team belongs to Chipper now, with Tim Hudson being
absolutely necessary for them to be competitive. Jair Jurjjens and
Brian McCann are the future.

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Colin William

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:49 am
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Joe Schmoe wrote:
> And most likely his career, IMO.
> Smoltz to have season-ending shoulder surgery
> Surgery could put career of 41-year-old in jeopardy
> The Braves have called a media conference at 11:30 a.m. at Turner Field to
> be attended by Smoltz, general manager Frank Wren and manager Bobby Cox. A
> Braves official confirmed surgery for Smoltz will be announced at the media
> conference.

I posted yesterday that I didn't think this was going to work out well,
but I figured it'd go for a month or two before it all ended. I would
imagine you're right, that this is it for his career. The fact that he,
Bobby and Wren are all going to be at the press conference makes it
sound like more than just announcement of surgery. That could be
accomplished by a press release. A press conference suggests something
more major.

Colin
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:01 pm
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Sam Hutcheson wrote:
> Mike Hampton has wanted to come back for the last three years. Smoltz
> is 41, is having another surgery and will have a massive recovery
> effort just to get back to normal usage, much less throwing a baseball
> 95 MPH. I'd say 70/30 he's done. I'd say 60/40 Glavine joins him in
> retiring next year.

And with Maddux also having mentioned retirement as an option it makes
for one heck of a Hall of Fame ballot...

Colin
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:35 pm
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>And with Maddux also having mentioned
>retirement as an option it makes for one
>heck of a Hall of Fame ballot...

And if the rumors are true about Pedro Martinez hanging them up after
this year are true, wow ...

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:35 pm
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Chris ® wrote:
>> And with Maddux also having mentioned
>> retirement as an option it makes for one
>> heck of a Hall of Fame ballot...
>
> And if the rumors are true about Pedro Martinez hanging them up after
> this year are true, wow ...

Best. Ballot. Ever.

</comic book guy>

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:50 pm
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On Jun 4, 12:01 pm, Colin William <colintwill... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sam Hutcheson wrote:
> > Mike Hampton has wanted to come back for the last three years. Smoltz
> > is 41, is having another surgery and will have a massive recovery
> > effort just to get back to normal usage, much less throwing a baseball
> > 95 MPH. I'd say 70/30 he's done. I'd say 60/40 Glavine joins him in
> > retiring next year.
>
> And with Maddux also having mentioned retirement as an option it makes
> for one heck of a Hall of Fame ballot...

Stop that foolish talk, I don't want to hear it. This does of course
mean the Braves could bring Maddux over now.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:32 pm
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Joe Schmoe wrote:
> And most likely his career, IMO.
>

Yup.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:32 pm
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Stapler wrote:
> Joe Schmoe wrote:
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>>And most likely his career, IMO.
>
> Yup.

I heard from a friend that he said on the radio today he wants to come
back in 2009. If true, wow.

Colin
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Tarkus

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:32 pm
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Colin William wrote:
> Stapler wrote:
>> Joe Schmoe wrote:
>>
>>> And most likely his career, IMO.
>>
>> Yup.
>
> I heard from a friend that he said on the radio today he wants to come
> back in 2009. If true, wow.

I watched the press conference, and he was actually enthusiastic about
the prospect. In fact, I was surprised at his attitude. He was not
depressed or angry at all. He had a very positive attitude.

He even brought up the fact that he had said in the past that he'd
retire before going through another surgery and rehab, but that he loves
the game and the competition too much.

He also said he actually did retire briefly in 1999, but was talked out
of it. Anyone remember anything about that?

Of course, they don't know yet the extent of the injury, and that could
make his decision for him. I doubt if he'd take 2009 off and try to
return in 2010.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:32 pm
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"Tarkus" <karnevil9.TakeThisOut@atlantabraves.net> wrote
> I watched the press conference, and he was actually enthusiastic about the
> prospect. In fact, I was surprised at his attitude. He was not depressed
> or angry at all. He had a very positive attitude.

That's good to hear.

> He also said he actually did retire briefly in 1999, but was talked out of
> it. Anyone remember anything about that?

Interesting, I don't recall that at all.

> Of course, they don't know yet the extent of the injury, and that could
> make his decision for him. I doubt if he'd take 2009 off and try to
> return in 2010.

Guess we'll see what they say after the surgery. It has to be pretty major
to begin with if they already know he's done for 2008.

Colin
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:32 pm
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Colin William wrote:
> Guess we'll see what they say after the surgery.

I'm going to go out on a very thin limb here, and predict that they'll
call it a "successful surgery," regardless of the consequences.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:32 pm
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Colin William wrote:
> "Tarkus" <karnevil9.DeleteThis@atlantabraves.net> wrote
>> He also said he actually did retire briefly in 1999, but was talked out of
>> it. Anyone remember anything about that?
>
> Interesting, I don't recall that at all.

It may have been kept internal. He brought it up in the context of it
being so hard to retire. And in fact, at first he said he "almost"
retired in 1999, then said he actually did, but was talked out of it
later. Who knows, he may have only retired for a day or even a few
hours, but it was never official.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:12 pm
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Tarkus wrote:
> Colin William wrote:
>> "Tarkus" <karnevil9.RemoveThis@atlantabraves.net> wrote
>>> He also said he actually did retire briefly in 1999, but was talked
>>> out of it. Anyone remember anything about that?
>>
>> Interesting, I don't recall that at all.
>
> It may have been kept internal. He brought it up in the context of it
> being so hard to retire. And in fact, at first he said he "almost"
> retired in 1999, then said he actually did, but was talked out of it
> later. Who knows, he may have only retired for a day or even a few
> hours, but it was never official.

i'm pretty sure i heard him talk about it on the radio locally.
790AM.

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