Sisco gone to KC

On 12/12/04 4:31 PM, in article Xns95BD9DA92CE41meprivacynet DeleteThis @130.133.1.4,
"Al Yellon" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:

> northfork500 DeleteThis @netscape.net wrote in
> news:1102886767.448732.27710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> ooops.
>>
>> Sure would of been nice to get something for him and Clement instead of
>> letting them go for nothing.
>> Interesting how this ball club is run.......
>
> Um, where did you get this info? The Rule V draft is tomorrow.

Check the headers. Maybe Muskie is posting from Australia where it's
already tomorrow.


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Al, you'll have to excuse Muskie (apparently he's moved on from
identifying himself as Eric Winkleman) for jumping the gun. He can't
help but wait to criticize the Cubs for something. Of course he fails
to
realize that Sisco very possibly won't last on the KC roster and that
the Cubs are getting compensation for Clement. I'm not sure what else
he
wants but I'm not surprised that he's not criticizing the Cubs for
getting nothing for Tom Goodwin."




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northfork500 DeleteThis @netscape.net wrote:

> "
>
>
> Al, you'll have to excuse Muskie (apparently he's moved on from
> identifying himself as Eric Winkleman) for jumping the gun. He can't
> help but wait to criticize the Cubs for something. Of course he fails
> to
> realize that Sisco very possibly won't last on the KC roster and that
> the Cubs are getting compensation for Clement. I'm not sure what else
> he
> wants but I'm not surprised that he's not criticizing the Cubs for
> getting nothing for Tom Goodwin."
>
>
>
>
> you're wrong, im right.

Do you want to expand upon that?

DmL
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Al Yellon <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:
> northfork500.DeleteThis@netscape.net wrote in
> news:1102886767.448732.27710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> ooops.
>>
>> Sure would of been nice to get something for him and Clement instead of
>> letting them go for nothing.
>> Interesting how this ball club is run.......
>
> Um, where did you get this info? The Rule V draft is tomorrow.

It was reported in today's Tribune that he is expected to be taken
second in the draft, along with the fact that the Cubs are expected to
sign Peter Bergeron.

"They are expected to sign Milwaukee minor-league outfielder Peter
Bergeron after the Rule 5 draft on Monday, and are likely to lose
minor-league left-hander Andy Sisco to Kansas City with the second pick
of the Rule 5 draft."

>

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On 12/12/04 5:56 PM, in article kImdnV7eGuAfUSHcRVn-3A DeleteThis @giganews.com, "Daniel
M. Lichtenstein" <"Daniel M. Lichtenstein"> wrote:

> Well there aren't that many open roster spots. There are a few but
> they'll likely be occupied by a starting outfielder, back-up
> outfielders, a back-up infielder and perhaps another reliever. The Cubs
> may be able to add one more minor leaguer but they risk having too many
> minor leaguers on the roster and than having to expose someone to the
> waiver wire if they need the room.

The Cubs have five open roster spots. Two of the filled spots are occupied
by John Koronka and Russ Rohlicek, in addition to Soto. Either of these two
guys would be good candidates for loss in Rule 5, and perhaps, kept by the
drafting team, but who cares?

> I think that they could've exposed Soto or someone else but there isn't
> much roster flexibility if we want the Cubs to sign a few more players.
> It seems that Hendry's strategy was to leave starters unprotected,
> hoping that teams wouldn't stash someone in a bullpen who had no minor
> league relief experience. Again, the bottom line is that this process is
> bad for lots of players development.

Well, that's probably right, but if Sisco goes in the first round, it was a
very bad move by Hendry to leave him exposed.

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"Daniel M. Lichtenstein" <"Daniel M. Lichtenstein"> wrote

> If they are
> going to have him relieve at the major league level without ever having
> relieved in the minors, they're going to screw him up and that will
> benefit no one.

It worked out okay for Johan Santana.

-Barry
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"Barry Anderson" <barry DeleteThis @gRlEaMdOkViEn.com> wrote in message
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> "Daniel M. Lichtenstein" <"Daniel M. Lichtenstein"> wrote

>> If they are
>> going to have him relieve at the major league level without ever
>> having
>> relieved in the minors, they're going to screw him up and that will
>> benefit no one.

> It worked out okay for Johan Santana.

as it did for most of Earl Weaver's pitchers.

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Barry Anderson wrote:

> "Daniel M. Lichtenstein" <"Daniel M. Lichtenstein"> wrote
>
>
>>If they are
>>going to have him relieve at the major league level without ever having
>>relieved in the minors, they're going to screw him up and that will
>>benefit no one.
>
>
> It worked out okay for Johan Santana.

According to BA, Santana spent a good portion of the first year on the DL.

DmL
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"Daniel M. Lichtenstein" <"Daniel M. Lichtenstein"> wrote

> According to BA, Santana spent a good portion of the first year on the DL.
>
> DmL

Well, maybe so, but he pitched in 30 games, only 5 of which he started. He
threw 86 innings altogether.

I see no reason why Sisco couldn't be used as the 11th man on the staff,
accumulating 50 innings or so, without stunting his development as a
pitcher.

-Barry
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In article <324nepF3f0ad1U1 DeleteThis @individual.net>, Lance Freezeland says...
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>"Barry Anderson" <barry DeleteThis @gRlEaMdOkViEn.com> wrote in message
>news:Q%8vd.45645$Qv5.37269@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>> "Daniel M. Lichtenstein" <"Daniel M. Lichtenstein"> wrote
>
>>> If they are
>>> going to have him relieve at the major league level without ever
>>> having
>>> relieved in the minors, they're going to screw him up and that will
>>> benefit no one.
>
>> It worked out okay for Johan Santana.
>
>as it did for most of Earl Weaver's pitchers.

And some dude named Zambrano.

r-s
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