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Since: Jul 08, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:45 pm
Post subject: Scoring a game winning hit
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Suppose in the bottom of the ninth or extra inning, the game is tied,
the bases are loaded, and the batter gets a hit.
If the hit is a home run, the batter gets credited with a home run
and four RBIs.
But if the hit is not a home run, the batter gets credited with a
single and one RBI, even if it is a hit to the wall that would otherwise
be a double or triple.
What if the hit bounces on the field, then over the wall, what would
normally be a ground rule double? Does the batter get credited for a
double or a single (and how many RBIs)?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Scoring a game winning hit [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Timothy J. Lee" <remove22.RemoveThis@sonic.net> ponders:
> Suppose in the bottom of the ninth or extra inning, the game is tied,
> the bases are loaded, and the batter gets a hit.
>
> If the hit is a home run, the batter gets credited with a home run
> and four RBIs.
>
> But if the hit is not a home run, the batter gets credited with a
> single and one RBI, even if it is a hit to the wall that would
> otherwise be a double or triple.
>
> What if the hit bounces on the field, then over the wall, what would
> normally be a ground rule double? Does the batter get credited for a
> double or a single (and how many RBIs)?
The following rule applies. Thus in this case, the batter is credited with
a single. The rule supersedes an award of extra bases due to a ball
bouncing into the stands, ground-rule extra bases, thrown gloves, etc.
A home run hit out of the playing field is the only exception.
"10.07(f) Subject to the provisions of 10.07(g), when the batter ends
a game with a safe hit which drives in as many runs as are necessary
to put his team in the lead, he shall be credited with only as many bases
on his hit as are advanced by the runner who scores the winning run,
and then only if the batter runs out his hit for as many bases as are
advanced by the runner who scores the winning run.
"NOTE: Apply this rule even when the batter is theoretically entitled
to more bases because of being awarded an "automatic" extra base hit
under various provisions of Playing Rules 6.09 and 7.05."
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Don
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:57 am
Post subject: Re: Scoring a game winning hit [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jun 10, 7:38 pm, "Don McC" <Don....RemoveThis@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> "Timothy J. Lee" <remov....RemoveThis@sonic.net> ponders:
>
> > Suppose in the bottom of the ninth or extra inning, the game is tied,
> > the bases are loaded, and the batter gets a hit.
>
> > If the hit is a home run, the batter gets credited with a home run
> > and four RBIs.
>
> > But if the hit is not a home run, the batter gets credited with a
> > single and one RBI, even if it is a hit to the wall that would
> > otherwise be a double or triple.
>
> > What if the hit bounces on the field, then over the wall, what would
> > normally be a ground rule double? Does the batter get credited for a
> > double or a single (and how many RBIs)?
>
> The following rule applies. Thus in this case, the batter is credited with
> a single. The rule supersedes an award of extra bases due to a ball
> bouncing into the stands, ground-rule extra bases, thrown gloves, etc.
> A home run hit out of the playing field is the only exception.
>
> "10.07(f) Subject to the provisions of 10.07(g), when the batter ends
> a game with a safe hit which drives in as many runs as are necessary
> to put his team in the lead, he shall be credited with only as many bases
> on his hit as are advanced by the runner who scores the winning run,
> and then only if the batter runs out his hit for as many bases as are
> advanced by the runner who scores the winning run.
>
> "NOTE: Apply this rule even when the batter is theoretically entitled
> to more bases because of being awarded an "automatic" extra base hit
> under various provisions of Playing Rules 6.09 and 7.05."
It is worth noting that the provision granting a home run was only
made around 1920 or so, hence Babe Ruth's extra home run. >> Stay informed about: Scoring a game winning hit |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Scoring a game winning hit [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Richard R. Hershberger wrote:
> It is worth noting that the provision granting a home run was only
> made around 1920 or so, hence Babe Ruth's extra home run.
There has been a few cases when even a home run was scored as a single.
This was because the runners stopped running after the winning run
scored, denying the hitter the chance to touch the bases and cross home
plate. The one that I remember is Robin Ventura's grand slam in game 5
of the NLCS in 1999. He hit it with the scored tied at 3 in the bottom
of the 15th. When he was rounding first and the 4-3 run had touched home
plate, the other runners turned around and started celebrating the
victory with him rather than scoring "their" runs. Because he had not
touched the bases for the run, he only got the single. It might have
occurred in other games.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Scoring a game winning hit [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hakan <H.L RemoveThis @softhome.net> writes:
>Richard R. Hershberger wrote:
>
>> It is worth noting that the provision granting a home run was only
>> made around 1920 or so, hence Babe Ruth's extra home run.
>
> There has been a few cases when even a home run was scored as a single.
>This was because the runners stopped running after the winning run
>scored, denying the hitter the chance to touch the bases and cross home
>plate. The one that I remember is Robin Ventura's grand slam in game 5
>of the NLCS in 1999. He hit it with the scored tied at 3 in the bottom
>of the 15th. When he was rounding first and the 4-3 run had touched home
>plate, the other runners turned around and started celebrating the
>victory with him rather than scoring "their" runs. Because he had not
>touched the bases for the run, he only got the single. It might have
>occurred in other games.
Perhaps the most famous example of this came in Harvey Haddix'
not-quite-perfect game:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Haddix
He pitched 12 perfect innings, but the perfect game was broken up in
the bottom of the 13th (with the scored tied 0-0), by an error, a walk
(to Hank Aaron), and a HR, which was changed to a double after Aaron
left the basepaths early and was passed; the final score was 1-0.
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