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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:45 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:01 am
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B. Campbell <bobc559.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> writes:
>Does a pinch runner get credit for scoring a run or does it go to
>the player who reached base originally?
The PR gets the credit. Whoever actually crosses the plate gets
credit for the run. It's the same if a batter reaches on a fielder's
choice, which is a bigger negative for the team than reaching as a
pinch runner. It isn't fair, but it is accurate; the runner who
actually scores gets credit for a run scored.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:01 am
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raj DeleteThis @alumnae.caltech.edu (Roger Moore) wrote:
>B. Campbell <bobc559 DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> writes:
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>>Does a pinch runner get credit for scoring a run or does it go to
>>the player who reached base originally?
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>The PR gets the credit. Whoever actually crosses the plate gets
>credit for the run. It's the same if a batter reaches on a fielder's
>choice, which is a bigger negative for the team than reaching as a
>pinch runner. It isn't fair, but it is accurate; the runner who
>actually scores gets credit for a run scored.
Thank you.
I have hundreds of baseball books, including about everything Bill
James has written since 1986, but this was one of those things
that I never really though about until I saw it happen the other
night. I think David Ortiz got on base, left the game and his PR
scored on a homer by Manny. This kind of thing probably happens
all the time. Wonder if Big Papi will score exactly 99 this year?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:02 am
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On Apr 17, 10:44 pm, B. Campbell <bobc....DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> r....DeleteThis@alumnae.caltech.edu (Roger Moore) wrote:
> >B. Campbell <bobc....DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> writes:
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> >>Does a pinch runner get credit for scoring a run or does it go to
> >>the player who reached base originally?
>
> >The PR gets the credit. Whoever actually crosses the plate gets
> >credit for the run. It's the same if a batter reaches on a fielder's
> >choice, which is a bigger negative for the team than reaching as a
> >pinch runner. It isn't fair, but it is accurate; the runner who
> >actually scores gets credit for a run scored.
>
> Thank you.
>
> I have hundreds of baseball books, including about everything Bill
> James has written since 1986, but this was one of those things
> that I never really though about until I saw it happen the other
> night. I think David Ortiz got on base, left the game and his PR
> scored on a homer by Manny. This kind of thing probably happens
> all the time. Wonder if Big Papi will score exactly 99 this year?
>
> Thanks again.
If you are interested in adding to your library, you might consider
http://www.amazon.com/Baseball-Scorekeeping-Practical-Guide-Rules/dp/0786414480 >> Stay informed about: Scoring Question |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:20 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:54 am
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B. Campbell <bobc559.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> says:
>I have hundreds of baseball books, including about everything Bill
>James has written since 1986,
Bill James wrote books about statball, not baseball. Huge
difference. The fact that you have a huge library of statbooks and
still not know a damned thing about baseball is not surprising.
cordially, as always,
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:54 am
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Realto Margarino <rm.TakeThisOut@justlinux.ca> wrote:
>B. Campbell <bobc559.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> says:
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>>I have hundreds of baseball books, including about everything Bill
>>James has written since 1986,
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>Bill James wrote books about statball, not baseball. Huge
>difference. The fact that you have a huge library of statbooks and
>still not know a damned thing about baseball is not surprising.
>
>cordially, as always,
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>rm
ah, yes...the hazards of newsgroup posting.
Thanks for reminding me of all the different types of people out
there. I had forgotten.
Anyone reading your response who knows me personally - as
you do not - will laugh their ass off. The key word in my
response was "including."
I played, managed, and coached it every year in
one form or another for 35 years, but there was (at least) one thing I
was not sure of and I thank Roger Moore for his kind response.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:21 pm
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On Apr 18, 5:38 pm, Realto Margarino <r... RemoveThis @justlinux.ca> wrote:
> Richard R. Hershberger <rrhe... RemoveThis @acme.com> says:
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> [deletia]
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> Are the Jewish guy?
What?
> Or are you
Who? What are you talking about?
> the guy who
What guy? Who are you talking about?
> doesn't like
Who doesn't like? Doesn't like what? You aren't making any sense.
> being called Jewish?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:59 pm
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Steve Grant <ACE1242 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:45:30 -0400, B. Campbell
><bobc559 RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>>Does a pinch runner get credit for scoring a run or does it go to
>>the player who reached base originally?
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>Check out this guy's lines:
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>http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/washihe01.shtml
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>... for an extreme example of the actual policy.
Yeah, I remember this guy hired by Charlie Finley exclusively as a
pinch runner in an effort to stramline the game. Didn't work
out very well. Neither did the orange baseballs.  >> Stay informed about: Scoring Question |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:36 pm
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B. Campbell <bobc559.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> says:
>ah, yes...the hazards of newsgroup posting.
>Thanks for reminding me of all the different types of people out
>there. I had forgotten.
Different types of people? What on earth are you talking about?
>Anyone reading your response who knows me personally - as you do
>not - will laugh their ass off. The key word in my response was
>"including."
The only things we know about you are what you, yourself, have
written. You told us that you have a great collection of statbooks,
and the nature of your question clearly implies you know nothing
about baseball.
>I played, managed, and coached it every year in one form or another
>for 35 years, but there was (at least) one thing I was not sure of
>and I thank Roger Moore for his kind response.
Again, board and computer games are not baseball. Teeball and little
league are not baseball.
In any case, Mr. Moore is one of the people in this ng that would
gleefully agree that most people who play and manage at the very
highest level, don't know a damned thing about the game.
I make a note trying to help you out and you treat me this way?
Bugger off. Don't post here anymore. You are not wanted.
cordially, as always,
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:38 pm
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Richard R. Hershberger <rrhersh.DeleteThis@acme.com> says:
[deletia]
Are the Jewish guy? Or are you the guy who doesn't like being
called Jewish?
cordially, as always,
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:32 am
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On Apr 19, 1:56 am, Realto Margarino <r... RemoveThis @justlinux.ca> wrote:
> Richard R. Hershberger <rrhe... RemoveThis @acme.com> says:
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> >On Apr 18, 5:38 pm, Realto Margarino <r... RemoveThis @justlinux.ca> wrote:
> >> Richard R. Hershberger <rrhe... RemoveThis @acme.com> says:
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> >> [deletia]
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> >> Are you the Jewish guy?
> >What?
>
> Are you the Jewish guy?
Who? Who is this Jewish guy we're talking about?
> >> Or are you
> >Who? What are you talking about?
>
> You. We're talking about you.
What about you? I don't understand.
> >> the guy who
> >What guy? Who are you talking about?
>
> You.
Who are you talking to?
> >> doesn't like
> >Who doesn't like? Doesn't like what? You aren't making any sense.
>
> Ah, you can
Who can do what?
> only read three
Three what? You aren't making any sense.
> words at a
Words at what? This is gibberish.
> time!
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:45 am
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On Apr 17, 8:45 pm, B. Campbell <bobc... RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Does a pinch runner get credit for scoring a run or does it go to
> the player who reached base originally?
Trivia: back when courtesy runners were allowed, the original player
got credit for the run scored, not the runner.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:56 am
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Richard R. Hershberger <rrhersh RemoveThis @acme.com> says:
>On Apr 18, 5:38 pm, Realto Margarino <r... RemoveThis @justlinux.ca> wrote:
>> Richard R. Hershberger <rrhe... RemoveThis @acme.com> says:
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>> [deletia]
>>
>> Are you the Jewish guy?
>What?
Are you the Jewish guy?
>> Or are you
>Who? What are you talking about?
You. We're talking about you.
>> the guy who
>What guy? Who are you talking about?
You.
>> doesn't like
>Who doesn't like? Doesn't like what? You aren't making any sense.
Ah, you can
only read three
words at a
time!
cordially, as always,
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:06 pm
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In article
<37fe9ca6-fb2c-4d93-b1ba-02a02afd8a5c RemoveThis @8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
<"copeab@yahoo.com"> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 8:45 pm, B. Campbell <bobc... RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Does a pinch runner get credit for scoring a run or does it go to
> > the player who reached base originally?
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> Trivia: back when courtesy runners were allowed, the original player
> got credit for the run scored, not the runner.
>
> Brandon
Well, that seems polite.
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