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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 3:40 pm
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> "Thermos" <cfbltw.DeleteThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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>> "2007 Yankees" <yankees4life65.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Running Scissors" <runsci.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>> John wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On May 27, 11:37 am, Running Scissors <run....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>John wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 26, 8:20 pm, "Vinnzilla" <badab....DeleteThis@stugots.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Its the New York Yankees, anyone that would want Alex anywhere else
>>>>>>>>is a
>>>>>>>>complete and total moron.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anyone who makes such a judgment, might find that it applies to them
>>>>>>>as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Arod has done nothing to improve the ny yankees condition since he
>>>>>>>arrived.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neither has the pink underwear I've been wearing. Go figure...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure tho, that is has helped your overall outlook on life <g>
>>>>>
>>>> My boyfriend seems to think so Smile
>>>
>>> Umm...you should clarify that you are a woman.....cause those that don't
>>> know, thei comments will come quick and hard. Wink
>>
>> Not that it matters.
>>
>
> I agree....just don't need to give the trolls more to play with.

I think they've pretty well demonstrated that they are infatuated enough
with the idea of homosexuality that no provocation is required.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:28 pm
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"Running Scissors" <runsci.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: John wrote:
:
: > On May 26, 8:20 pm, "Vinnzilla" <badab....TakeThisOut@stugots.com> wrote:
: >
: >>Its the New York Yankees, anyone that would want Alex anywhere else is a
: >>complete and total moron.....
: >
: >
: > Anyone who makes such a judgment, might find that it applies to them
: > as well.
: >
: > Arod has done nothing to improve the ny yankees condition since he
: > arrived.
:
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, unless you can prove that Alex is secretly a
Santeria priest who has put a hex on the team.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:29 pm
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"Thermos" <cfbltw.RemoveThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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: "2007 Yankees" <yankees4life65.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: > "Thermos" <cfbltw.RemoveThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message
: > news:7oudnV0MB_gQRcTbnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
: >> "2007 Yankees" <yankees4life65.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: >> news:Fbk6i.3330$Ka2.400@newsfe12.lga...
: >>>
: >>> "Running Scissors" <runsci.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: >>> news:4659cdab$0$4692$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
: >>>> John wrote:
: >>>>
: >>>>> On May 27, 11:37 am, Running Scissors <run....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
: >>>>>
: >>>>>>John wrote:
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>>>On May 26, 8:20 pm, "Vinnzilla" <badab....RemoveThis@stugots.com> wrote:
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>Its the New York Yankees, anyone that would want Alex anywhere
else
: >>>>>>>>is a
: >>>>>>>>complete and total moron.....
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>>>Anyone who makes such a judgment, might find that it applies to
them
: >>>>>>>as well.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>>>Arod has done nothing to improve the ny yankees condition since he
: >>>>>>>arrived.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>>Neither has the pink underwear I've been wearing. Go figure...
: >>>>>
: >>>>>
: >>>>> I'm sure tho, that is has helped your overall outlook on life <g>
: >>>>>
: >>>> My boyfriend seems to think so Smile
: >>>
: >>> Umm...you should clarify that you are a woman.....cause those that
don't
: >>> know, thei comments will come quick and hard. Wink
: >>
: >> Not that it matters.
: >>
: >
: > I agree....just don't need to give the trolls more to play with.
:
: I think they've pretty well demonstrated that they are infatuated enough
: with the idea of homosexuality that no provocation is required.
:
:
Yet many support the candidacy of the cross-dressing Rudy Giuliani.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:44 pm
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John wrote:
> On May 27, 10:03 am, "Vinnzilla" <badab... RemoveThis @stugots.com> wrote:
>
>> 1st off I'm not an A-Rod lover and have been following the team since the
>> mid 70's....(yes, even through the 80's). My whole point, which has gotten
>> lost is that you can't blame the teams failures on one player,
>
> I don't blame this teams failure this season on any one player either.
> Fact is, if you recall, there is always banter here about how there is
> no such thing as clutch hitting, because its all just raw statistics
> in action. If we accept that notion (which I don't) then the fact

The more correct statement is that any clutch hitting ability is small
enough and sample sizes are small enough that it is dwarfed by overall
skill level, making it nearly impossible to identify clutch hitters.
Therefore, it's best to assume that any given player will perform
equally well in the clutch as he does overall.

> that the Yankees have won as much as they have in the past decade,
> simply means they HAVE to start losing for a time, in order to
> maintain the statistical average. No team can win 90+ games a year,
> forever. Those who live by the stat, have to suffer with it as well.

That's not true at all.

(1) If you throw a fair coin and have 10 heads in a row, it doesn't make
it any more likely to come up tails the next time. There is no such
thing as a law of small numbers or balancing out in the short term to
make an average look nice. If you believe the Yanks have been lucky,
that doesn't mean they are due to be unlucky.

(2) Perhaps part of the reason the Yanks have won as much as they have
because they are good. Good teams exist.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:18 pm
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Pepe Papon wrote:
>>The point is simply that he has not improved the team one bit. Its
>>rather clearly written that the Yankees made the playoffs, and failed,
>>before he arrived, and now that he has been here for 3 years, they
>>have made the playoffs, and failed. He hasn't helped the team get
>>better.
>
>
> You have exceptionally poor reasoning skills.

There's no reason those skills should be any better than the rest of
what he's working with.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:36 pm
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Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown wrote:
> "Thermos" <cfbltw RemoveThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:9NydnfJ_FYwjQ8TbnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@comcast.com...
> : "2007 Yankees" <yankees4life65 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> : news:15l6i.690$0A1.492@newsfe12.lga...
> : >
> : > "Thermos" <cfbltw RemoveThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
> : > news:7oudnV0MB_gQRcTbnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> : >> "2007 Yankees" <yankees4life65 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> : >> news:Fbk6i.3330$Ka2.400@newsfe12.lga...
> : >>>
> : >>> "Running Scissors" <runsci RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : >>> news:4659cdab$0$4692$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> : >>>> John wrote:
> : >>>>
> : >>>>> On May 27, 11:37 am, Running Scissors <run... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> : >>>>>
> : >>>>>>John wrote:
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>>>On May 26, 8:20 pm, "Vinnzilla" <badab... RemoveThis @stugots.com> wrote:
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>>>>Its the New York Yankees, anyone that would want Alex anywhere
> else
> : >>>>>>>>is a
> : >>>>>>>>complete and total moron.....
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>>>Anyone who makes such a judgment, might find that it applies to
> them
> : >>>>>>>as well.
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>>>Arod has done nothing to improve the ny yankees condition since he
> : >>>>>>>arrived.
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>>Neither has the pink underwear I've been wearing. Go figure...
> : >>>>>
> : >>>>>
> : >>>>> I'm sure tho, that is has helped your overall outlook on life <g>
> : >>>>>
> : >>>> My boyfriend seems to think so Smile
> : >>>
> : >>> Umm...you should clarify that you are a woman.....cause those that
> don't
> : >>> know, thei comments will come quick and hard. Wink
> : >>
> : >> Not that it matters.
> : >>
> : >
> : > I agree....just don't need to give the trolls more to play with.
> :
> : I think they've pretty well demonstrated that they are infatuated enough
> : with the idea of homosexuality that no provocation is required.
> :
> :
> Yet many support the candidacy of the cross-dressing Rudy Giuliani.
>
>

That seems in poor taste regardless of one's gender or sexual
preference. Giuliani barely passes muster dressed as a man.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:08 pm
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kenny1111 wrote:
> John wrote:
>
>> that the Yankees have won as much as they have in the past decade,
>> simply means they HAVE to start losing for a time, in order to
>> maintain the statistical average. No team can win 90+ games a year,
>> forever. Those who live by the stat, have to suffer with it as well.
>
>
> That's not true at all.
>

You have to admit, its pretty funny that anyone would think it were
true, though.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:35 pm
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On 27 May 2007 08:24:25 -0700, John <ewsnet RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 27, 8:22 am, "Vinnzilla" <badab... RemoveThis @stugots.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Theres no I in team, anyone that blames the complete failure of the 2007
>> season on one player knows nothing about baseball.
>
>No one blamed anyone for the complete failure of the season..... Not
>me, not anyone. I spoke of the last three years, and what I know about
>baseball exceeds that of many of the stat heads around here.

This is obviously true, according to you.

>The point is simply that he has not improved the team one bit. Its
>rather clearly written that the Yankees made the playoffs, and failed,
>before he arrived, and now that he has been here for 3 years, they
>have made the playoffs, and failed. He hasn't helped the team get
>better.

You have exceptionally poor reasoning skills.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:40 pm
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RedSoxTres8.DeleteThis@webtv.net (Leon Lussier) wrote:
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>You win championships with pitching, pitching and more pitching.
>Arod is not the source of your problems.

Looks like a Red Sox fan is smarter than half the Yankees fans
in this newsgroup.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:53 pm
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John <ewsnet.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 8:20 pm, "Vinnzilla" <badab....DeleteThis@stugots.com> wrote:
>> Its the New York Yankees, anyone that would want Alex anywhere else is a
>> complete and total moron.....
>
>Anyone who makes such a judgment, might find that it applies to them
>as well.
>
>Arod has done nothing to improve the ny yankees condition since he
>arrived. If they had gotten better, went deeper into the playoffs, and
>even gotten to the WS, there might be a case, but when the greatest
>player in the game arrives onto what is already one of the top teams
>in the game, and he makes no discernable impact on the fortunes of the
>team, its time for folks to ask exactly what does he bring to the
>table, for the benefit of the NY Yankees?


Without A-Rod's MVP season in 2005,
no one in their right mind could have expected the Yankees
to win the AL East that year.


>So far. Nothing. How many failures are allowed, and if he EVER
>delivers, does that offset the complete lack of further team success
>since he arrived?
>
>There is a major difference between Yankee fans, and Arod fans. Arod
>fans, infest this group. Yankee fans, are few and far between.


Quit your pathetic whining. You are an embarrasment
to the male population.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:52 am
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The team with the best pitching staff doesn't always win the
championship, but the team that is pitching the best going into the
postseason usually wins. If the pitching is healthy, then your chances
improve.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:28 am
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 23:40:39 GMT, surfergirl RemoveThis @thebeach.com wrote:

>
>RedSoxTres8@webtv.net (Leon Lussier) wrote:
>>
>>You win championships with pitching, pitching and more pitching.
>>Arod is not the source of your problems.
>
>Looks like a Red Sox fan is smarter than half the Yankees fans
>in this newsgroup.

Why? Because he made an inaccuare statement?
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:50 am
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Pepe Papon wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2007 23:40:39 GMT, surfergirl.RemoveThis@thebeach.com wrote:
>
>
>>RedSoxTres8@webtv.net (Leon Lussier) wrote:
>>
>>>You win championships with pitching, pitching and more pitching.
>>>Arod is not the source of your problems.
>>
>>Looks like a Red Sox fan is smarter than half the Yankees fans
>>in this newsgroup.
>
>
> Why? Because he made an inaccuare statement?

The first part is a hackneyed cliche. The second part is certainly
correct, but obvious.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:06 pm
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Too bad you can't score with just pitching. Or can you? I didn't think so.

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> RedSoxTres8 DeleteThis @webtv.net (Leon Lussier) wrote:
>>
>>You win championships with pitching, pitching and more pitching.
>>Arod is not the source of your problems.
>
> Looks like a Red Sox fan is smarter than half the Yankees fans
> in this newsgroup.
>
>
>
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