Best Rivalry of all time in any sport

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:53:20 GMT, "The Dave©" <no RemoveThis @no.com> wrote:

>> Trapper wrote:
>> Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
>
>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.

Right, I'm in.

Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.
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"The Dave©" <no DeleteThis @no.com> wrote in message
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> > Trapper wrote:
> > Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
>
> Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.

Jocks vs. Nerds (colleges nationwide)
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Victoria Barrett wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:53:20 GMT, "The Dave©" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Trapper wrote:
>>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
>>
>>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.
>
>
> Right, I'm in.
>
> Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.

Waay too provincial. Insignificant.

The Ali-Frazier fights fascinated the entire world.
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:57:09 GMT, 223rem <223rem DeleteThis @sbcglobal.com> wrote:
>Victoria Barrett wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:53:20 GMT, "The Dave©" <no DeleteThis @no.com> wrote:
>>>>Trapper wrote:
>>>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
>>>
>>>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.
>>
>>
>> Right, I'm in.
>>
>> Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.
>
>Waay too provincial. Insignificant.

Right, because people in Indonesia live and die for a little Army-Navy
action.

>The Ali-Frazier fights fascinated the entire world.

Not more than watching Brazil v. Argentina any year, love.

People who don't have TVs and one tooth between a whole family sell
their grandmothers just to catch sight of the matchup.
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"223rem" <223rem DeleteThis @sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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>
> Victoria Barrett wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:53:20 GMT, "The Dave©" <no DeleteThis @no.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Trapper wrote:
> >>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
> >>
> >>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.
> >
> >
> > Right, I'm in.
> >
> > Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.
>
> Waay too provincial. Insignificant.
>
> The Ali-Frazier fights fascinated the entire world.

Not if you don't give a damn for boxing.
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>Jews-Arabs is a lulu...

The peoples of what are now Iraq and Iran have been at war for most of the past
three thousand years.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".
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[Mpoconnor7 (mpoconnor7@aol.comnojunk)]
[26 Jun 2004 03:57:17 GMT]

:>Jews-Arabs is a lulu...
:
:The peoples of what are now Iraq and Iran have been at war for most of the past
:three thousand years.

Five billion years from now, when the Earth is hurtling toward the Sun,
and the sum total of life on the planets consists of two microbes, if
they're both in the Middle East, they'll be at war with each other.

--
Bryan S. Slick, usenet at slick-family dot net

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
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Luis Garavello wrote:
> "223rem" <223rem.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>Victoria Barrett wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:53:20 GMT, "The Dave©" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Trapper wrote:
>>>>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
>>>>
>>>>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.
>>>
>>>
>>>Right, I'm in.
>>>
>>>Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.
>>
>>Waay too provincial. Insignificant.
>>
>>The Ali-Frazier fights fascinated the entire world.
>
>
> Not if you don't give a damn for boxing.


Ali-Frazier transcended boxing. Ali is arguably the greatest
sports figure ever.
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> >>>>>Trapper wrote:
> >>>>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
> >>>>
> >>>>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Right, I'm in.
> >>>
> >>>Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.
> >>
> >>Waay too provincial. Insignificant.
> >>
> >>The Ali-Frazier fights fascinated the entire world.
> >
> >
> > Not if you don't give a damn for boxing.
>
>
> Ali-Frazier transcended boxing. Ali is arguably the greatest
> sports figure ever.

Again: I don't give a damn about boxing. Most people in Brazil used to do
(before Popó won the belts of course)

To say Ali is the greatest sports figure ever is at least a lack of culture.
Jesse Owens, Mark Spitz, Paavo Nurmi, all of them are WAY superior than Ali.

Ali is the greatest boxer of all time, with that I will agree.

But to claim Ali as the greatest sportist? And that his feud was the best
rivalry?

In your own words, Ali-Frazier was "insignificant" to most people.
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 04:08:31 GMT, 223rem <223rem.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.com> wrote:

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>
>Luis Garavello wrote:
>> "223rem" <223rem.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>Victoria Barrett wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:53:20 GMT, "The Dave©" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Trapper wrote:
>>>>>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
>>>>>
>>>>>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Right, I'm in.
>>>>
>>>>Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.
>>>
>>>Waay too provincial. Insignificant.
>>>
>>>The Ali-Frazier fights fascinated the entire world.
>>
>>
>> Not if you don't give a damn for boxing.
>
>
>Ali-Frazier transcended boxing. Ali is arguably the greatest
>sports figure ever.

It really illustrates the depths to which boxing has descended. Ali
was possibly the most revered sports figure of the 20th century. He
was admired by all sorts of people, all over the world, in all walks
of life, from all social classes. His was probably the only face,
sports figure anyways, that could stop traffic anywhere in the world.
As you say, he transcended the sport.

Kids nowadays can't really appreciate this.
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 01:25:20 -0300, "Luis Garavello"
<luisgaravello.RemoveThis@terra.com.br> wrote:

>> >>>>>Trapper wrote:
>> >>>>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Right, I'm in.
>> >>>
>> >>>Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.
>> >>
>> >>Waay too provincial. Insignificant.
>> >>
>> >>The Ali-Frazier fights fascinated the entire world.
>> >
>> >
>> > Not if you don't give a damn for boxing.
>>
>>
>> Ali-Frazier transcended boxing. Ali is arguably the greatest
>> sports figure ever.
>
>Again: I don't give a damn about boxing. Most people in Brazil used to do
>(before Popó won the belts of course)
>
>To say Ali is the greatest sports figure ever is at least a lack of culture.
>Jesse Owens, Mark Spitz, Paavo Nurmi, all of them are WAY superior than Ali.

As athletes probably yes.
As a sports figure none of them can touch Ali.

>Ali is the greatest boxer of all time, with that I will agree.
>
>But to claim Ali as the greatest sportist? And that his feud was the best
>rivalry?
>
>In your own words, Ali-Frazier was "insignificant" to most people.
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"MMcC" <inis.RemoveThis@earthlings.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 04:08:31 GMT, 223rem <223rem.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Luis Garavello wrote:
> >> "223rem" <223rem.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
> >> news:pu6Dc.28764$eH1.13546040@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Victoria Barrett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 03:53:20 GMT, "The Dave©" <no.RemoveThis@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Trapper wrote:
> >>>>>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Soviet Union vs. Hungary, 1956 Olympics, water polo.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Right, I'm in.
> >>>>
> >>>>Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race -- held since 1829. Beat that.
> >>>
> >>>Waay too provincial. Insignificant.
> >>>
> >>>The Ali-Frazier fights fascinated the entire world.
> >>
> >>
> >> Not if you don't give a damn for boxing.
> >
> >
> >Ali-Frazier transcended boxing. Ali is arguably the greatest
> >sports figure ever.
>
> It really illustrates the depths to which boxing has descended. Ali
> was possibly the most revered sports figure of the 20th century. He
> was admired by all sorts of people, all over the world, in all walks
> of life, from all social classes. His was probably the only face,
> sports figure anyways, that could stop traffic anywhere in the world.
> As you say, he transcended the sport.

Pelé did way more.

People stopped a civil war to watch him play.

No athlete ever beat that (and I doubt one will in the future)
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> >To say Ali is the greatest sports figure ever is at least a lack of
culture.
> >Jesse Owens, Mark Spitz, Paavo Nurmi, all of them are WAY superior than
Ali.
>
> As athletes probably yes.
> As a sports figure none of them can touch Ali.

Sports figure means what exactly?

No matter, actually, as Pelé is way superior than Ali in any field, inside
and outside sports.
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