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Since: Sep 30, 2004 Posts: 1048
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(Msg. 136) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:24 pm
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:49:45 GMT, "bob" <rstein6.RemoveThis@nospam.cfl.rr.com>
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>"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:44:01 GMT, "bob" <rstein6.RemoveThis@nospam.cfl.rr.com>
>> wrote:
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>> >"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:48:17 -0400, "Montreal Bob"
>> >> <montrealbob.RemoveThis@canada.com> wrote:
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>> >> >Maple Laffs - Canadiens !
>> >>
>> >> Red Wings-Canadiens
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>> >that's a laugh, the canadiens never considered the red wings rivals,
>> >although the red wings always wished to be..
>> >
>> >bob
>> >
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>> You really should go back and verify this. The Red Wings were very
>> competitive in the 50's and 60's.
>
>yes, horrible from 1970-1990..20 yrs that i watched em.
>
>bpb
>
See my earlier response. My pain was greater than yours.
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(Msg. 137) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:26 pm
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:54:53 -0400, me <kewarken DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>International hockey - Cold War Russia vs. USA.
>
>In modern times, may hockey teams have very intense rivalry, especially
>when they're geographically close. ie. Edmonton/Calgary,
>Toronto/Montreal/Ottawa, etc.
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>cheers,
>
>Kris
Come to think of it, Russia versus Canada in hockey was pretty
intense.
Tom
>
>Larry Bud wrote:
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>> "Trapper" <me DeleteThis @my-deja.nospamcom> wrote in message news:<Vs4Dc.95534$2i5.64402@attbi_s52>...
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>>>Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
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>>
>> If we're talking Tennis, gotta be McEnroe vs. Conner.
>>
>> Basketball, I like Lakers vs. Celts. Even though they didn't play the
>> same position, you had an internal rivalry of Bird vs. Magic.
>>
>> Golf is tougher, as you usually don't have two GREAT players at the
>> same time. Some may say Jack vs. Arnie, but Arnie was winding down
>> when Jack was coming up. >> Stay informed about: Best Rivalry of all time in any sport |
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(Msg. 138) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:44 pm
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(Msg. 139) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:21 pm
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jestersyrup.RemoveThis@aol.comj (Jester Syrup) wrote in message news:<20040628201923.10848.00000533.RemoveThis@mb-m25.aol.com>...
> Arabs have been waring with themselves since their existance. When the Jews
> were exiled for 2K years the Arabs fought over everything - except Jerusalem.
> Once they realized the Jews were returning and wanted Jerusalem - they were
> like "Uh...we want that land now"
>
> They are a violent people taught that violence is the only way to
> communicate....except with your hands too.
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Real education must ultimately be limited to men who insist on knowing, the
> rest is mere sheep-herding.
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> Ezra Pound
You seem a most willing sheep. >> Stay informed about: Best Rivalry of all time in any sport |
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(Msg. 140) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:02 pm
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"Trapper" <me.RemoveThis@my-deja.nospamcom> wrote in message news:<Vs4Dc.95534$2i5.64402@attbi_s52>...
> Chris Evert v Martina Navratilova
Borg/Connors for individual
Team: NY Yankees/Boston Red Sox, circa 1978.
Ali Frazier is the most famous, but trouble with boxing is that guys
can't fight very often. >> Stay informed about: Best Rivalry of all time in any sport |
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Since: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 141) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:18 pm
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"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:49:07 GMT, "bob" <rstein6.DeleteThis@nospam.cfl.rr.com>
> wrote:
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> >
> >"Yury" <buzun.DeleteThis@swbet.youknowwhattoinsert> wrote in message
> >news:cbr0ok$rbk$1@hyppo.gu.net...
> >>
> >> "bob" <rstein6.DeleteThis@nospam.cfl.rr.com> сообщил/сообщила в новостях
следующее:
> >> news:Ra1Ec.171$uK.21@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> >> >
> >> > "Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:8t11e0htgm45ohk77jeqc4ujn1dgpc9v72@4ax.com...
> >> > > On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:48:17 -0400, "Montreal Bob"
> >> > > <montrealbob.DeleteThis@canada.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >Maple Laffs - Canadiens !
> >> > >
> >> > > Red Wings-Canadiens
> >> >
> >> > that's a laugh, the canadiens never considered the red wings rivals,
> >> > although the red wings always wished to be..
> >>
> >> Well, these times the Canadiens really heve no righ to consider
themselves
> >> as rivals to Red Wings....
> >
> >sure, the canadiens coach (bowman) built nowadays red wings..
> >
> >growing up in detroit i watched 20yrs of losing red wing teams. i moved
out,
> >they started to win cups. luckily for me i was always a canadien
fan.
> >
> >bob
> >
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> My heart bleeds for you, but...I watched for 30+ years, having been a
> fan since the early 1960's. And I don't even, nor have I ever, lived
> in Detroit. A home town guy played for the Wings in my early days as a
> fan.
i've never heard of a red wing from from somewhere other than detroit -- but
in detroit, the wings are the most popular team by a longshot, for
decades..even while losing 70% of their games.
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Since: Jun 27, 2004 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 142) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:33 pm
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"Sierraman" <riposa.TakeThisOut@sti.net> wrote in message news:<oY2dnTA6E8opgH_dRVn-hA.TakeThisOut@sti.net>...
> "Kenny" <gelei2001.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47493688.0406282234.7cb5affe@posting.google.com...
> > "Sierraman" <riposa.TakeThisOut@sti.net> wrote in message
> news:<U8GdnSGLMJ6Ap33dRVn-jw.TakeThisOut@sti.net>...
> > > "Kenny" <gelei2001.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47493688.0406272224.7e751872@posting.google.com...
> > > > "Sierraman" <riposa.TakeThisOut@sti.net> wrote in message
> news:<TK2dnQ_xwKv_nkLdRVn-tA.TakeThisOut@sti.net>...
> > > > > "Davey Crockett" <Davey_Crockett.TakeThisOut@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > > >
> > >
> news:87smcheydd.fsf@cpe000423176ea9-cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > > > > gelei2001.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (Kenny) writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I didn't say that.
> > > > > > > > If you read again, I wrote "the two best cyclists in the years
> immediately
> > > > > > > > after WW2". Merckx was a professional between '66 and '76,
> that is
> not
> > > > > > > > immediately after WW2, that's a completely different era. In
> fact
> when
> > > > > > > > Merckx started winning Coppi was already dead.
> > > > > > > > Of course I agree Merckx has been the best ever (maybe even
> the
> most
> > > > > > > > winning overall athlete ever), but that was another time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Agreed!
> > > > > > > Here in Belgium there was some rivalry between the supporters
> clans
> of
> > > > > > > Van Looy and Merckx. After Van Looy, you had the Merckx-clan
> versus
> > > > > > > the De Vlaeminck clan. It was often so that kids were raised by
> their
> > > > > > > father in the spirit of supporting Merckx or De Vlaeminck. E.g
> when
> > > > > > > your father was a De Vlaeminck fan, the word "Merckx" couldn't
> be
> > > > > > > spoken on table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The rivalry between the Merckx and Van Looy supporters bordered on
> > > > > > fanaticism. And it wasn't limited to the tifosi either,
> particularly
> in
> > > > > > Paris-Tours where the supporters of the respective clans solicited
> the
> > > > > > riders for support for their chosen Idol promising wins at obscure
> > > > > > Kermesse events in Flanders and elsewhere in exchange for the
> support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The main goal of course at P-T was to shut Eddy out and leave Rik
> as
> the
> > > > > > only rider to have won all the Classics. Merckx never did in fact
> win
> them
> > > > > > all.
> > > > >
> > > > > But again, why do some say Coppi and Bartali was greater then
> Merckx?
> Can
> > > > > there be a strong case stated for this by the historians in the
> Coppi
> camp?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > le Vent a Dos. Davey Crockett
> > > > > > http://petition.eurolinux.org ;
> http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html
> > > > > > Please address all replies to the list
> > > >
> > > > Think it has somthing to do with the fact that Coppi was some kind of
> > > > mystical and mysterious figure. His love affair with the lady in
> > > > white. Died young. etc
> > > > Ofcourse Bartali and then Coppi rode in a whole other era than Merckx
> > > > did. Think there is a huge difference between Cycling in the 30's -
> > > > 40's and the 70's. The perception is also changed. Very much the
> > > > same as we sometimes compare cycling of the 60's-70's with now.
> > >
> > > Yeah, things like that. I thought they might say something like it had
> to do
> > > with character, chrisma, and how they won their races, and how they were
> > > endeared to the fans of that time, which in their minds and the minds of
> > > historians in that camp make them better men then Merckx. As for their
> > > rivals, Merckx also has half a dozen decent players to cope with in his
> > > time. Road conditions certainly were a factor back then but Merckx also
> won
> > > nearly a third of the races he entered so to weigh one against the other
> is
> > > hard and there are other factors. I suppose their is a book somewhere
> about
> > > why Coppi and Bartali are better then Merckx.
> >
> > That's where some people are wrong: there is nobody better than
> > Merckx. And when you talk about character, you talk about Merckx.
> > Why else did he suffer so much during his carreer.
>
> I always thought Merckx was the best,
You don't THINK Merckx is the best, Merckx IS the best. >> Stay informed about: Best Rivalry of all time in any sport |
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Since: Jun 16, 2004 Posts: 23
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(Msg. 143) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:04 am
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Dodgers - Giants.
I understand that East coast fans will not understand why this is bigger than
the Yankees - Red Sox, but I don't expect you to.
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rest is mere sheep-herding.
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(Msg. 144) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:04 am
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"Jester Syrup" <jestersyrup.DeleteThis@aol.comj> wrote in message
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> Dodgers - Giants.
> I understand that East coast fans will not understand why this is bigger
than
> the Yankees - Red Sox, but I don't expect you to.
The old ones will.
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Since: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 145) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:20 am
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"Victoria Barrett" <vbarrett.DeleteThis@the-beach.net> wrote in message
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> On 30 Jun 2004 11:37:55 EDT, "Steve Grant" <ACE1242.DeleteThis@concentric.net>
> wrote:
> >Long ago and far away, two women freshman roommates at MIT were both
named
> >Sandra Lee Harris. They identified themselves as Sandy (New Hampshire)
and
> >Sandy (Maine).
>
> Sandy New Hampshire/Sandy Main, oy vey. I visualise sandy blonde wharf
> rats in topsiders, you?
>
> I know a guy called Edgar Rodriguez. He has two brothers: Edgardo, and
> Edgard.
>
> Lots of hippie lettuce was smoked in the '70s, my friends.
Does that explain George Foreman's 6 sons, all named George? How weird is
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Since: Jun 25, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 146) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:20 am
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On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:20:57 GMT, "Peter Henrikson"
<peterhenrikson RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>"Victoria Barrett" <vbarrett RemoveThis @the-beach.net> wrote in message
>> On 30 Jun 2004 11:37:55 EDT, "Steve Grant" <ACE1242 RemoveThis @concentric.net>
>> wrote:
>> >Long ago and far away, two women freshman roommates at MIT were both
>named
>> >Sandra Lee Harris. They identified themselves as Sandy (New Hampshire)
>and
>> >Sandy (Maine).
>>
>> Sandy New Hampshire/Sandy Main, oy vey. I visualise sandy blonde wharf
>> rats in topsiders, you?
>>
>> I know a guy called Edgar Rodriguez. He has two brothers: Edgardo, and
>> Edgard.
>>
>> Lots of hippie lettuce was smoked in the '70s, my friends.
>
>Does that explain George Foreman's 6 sons, all named George? How weird is
>that?
IIRC, his daughter is also George Foreman.
I'm not sure if weed explains that, but I'm not buying his grill to
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(Msg. 147) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:58 am
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(Msg. 148) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:45 am
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[Patrick Powers (frisbieinstein@yahoo.com)]
[30 Jun 2004 23:02:20 -0700]
:Team: NY Yankees/Boston Red Sox, circa 1978.
A rivalry implies relatively even competition.
--
Bryan S. Slick, usenet at slick-family dot net
"To those who have fought for it,
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(Msg. 149) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:28 am
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Bryan S. Slick <usenet.RemoveThis@slick-family.not> wrote in message news:<MPG.1b4d994f65b46d4398a18c.RemoveThis@news-40.giganews.com>...
> [Patrick Powers (frisbieinstein@yahoo.com)]
> [30 Jun 2004 23:02:20 -0700]
>
> :Team: NY Yankees/Boston Red Sox, circa 1978.
>
> A rivalry implies relatively even competition.
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(Msg. 150) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:04 pm
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:18:48 GMT, "bob" <rstein6 RemoveThis @nospam.cfl.rr.com>
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>"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> My heart bleeds for you, but...I watched for 30+ years, having been a
>> fan since the early 1960's. And I don't even, nor have I ever, lived
>> in Detroit. A home town guy played for the Wings in my early days as a
>> fan.
>
>i've never heard of a red wing from from somewhere other than detroit
Parker MacDonald (Sydney, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada), played on
a line with Gordie Howe (Floral, Saskatchewan, Canada), also not from
Detroit.
Tom
>-- but
>in detroit, the wings are the most popular team by a longshot, for
>decades..even while losing 70% of their games.
>
>
>bob
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