Where is Al Reyes?

He's in Double A for now. He'll probably get called up on Sept. 1st.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Wagner-out-3-weeks-Mets-sign-e...ay-Reye

Thursday, Aug 21, 2008 8:38 am EDT

Wagner out 3 weeks; Mets sign ex-Ray Reyes
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The New York Mets have refused to put a timetable on the return of
Billy Wagner from the disabled list, but apparently the initial
estimate the pitcher received is three weeks from now. The
lefthander's agent, Bean Stringfellow, Wednesday told ESPN Radio in
New York that after a doctor's appointment on Tuesday, the pitcher was
"surprised it will take three weeks."

Meanwhile, the Mets made a move Wednesday to bolster the depleted
bullpen by signing former Tampa Bay closer Al Reyes, whom the Rays
released 10 days ago, to a minor league contract. The Mets assigned
him to Double-A Binghamton, where they want him to shake off the 10
days of rust and then perhaps join the big club.

Reyes has 32 career saves, 26 coming last season for the Rays. He was
2-2 with a 4.37 ERA in 22games in what was a stormy season for him.
Reyes was tasered and arrested in April after causing a disturbance at
a bar while celebrating his 38th birthday. The charges were later
dropped.

"As I've said, we're looking at guys who are not having the best
years," GM Omar Minaya said, referring to the lack of closers to have
made it through waivers. "There was a major league offer, but he's
chosen to go with us.

Source: New York Daily News

Related: Billy Wagner, New York Mets





On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:27:28 -0700 (PDT), Mary1973 <mlawlor.DeleteThis@nj.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 25, 5:12=A0pm, O'Bob <O'...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Just heard Evan R interviewing Omar on WFAN. Covered:
>> =A0 Maine to DL.
>> =A0 Who replaces Maine (A: off days allow flexibility, etc)
>> =A0 When is Wagner coming back? (A: unknown)
>> =A0 Who is the closer (A: Whoever has the hot hand)
>> =A0 Get more pitching off waivers (A: Near impossible due to blocks)
>>
>> Lots of skillfully evasive stuff from Omar. But for some reason, no
>> one mentioned Al Reyes. I thought that he had enough positives to
>> merit a look before Sept 1. Anyone know why the conspicuous absence?
>
>I think he might be in N'Orleans.
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:31:29 GMT, kenny77445.TakeThisOut@home.net (Kenny Paulson)
wrote:

>He's in Double A for now. He'll probably get called up on Sept. 1st.
>
>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Wagner-out-3-weeks-Mets-sign-ex-Ray-Reyes;_ylt=Ak9iw.lmdLgbptb2rigNMmGFCLcF?urn=mlb,102414

>>>
>>> Lots of skillfully evasive stuff from Omar. But for some reason, no
>>> one mentioned Al Reyes. I thought that he had enough positives to
>>> merit a look before Sept 1. Anyone know why the conspicuous absence?
>>
>>I think he might be in N'Orleans.

Thanks. I was wondering if he'd but up before Sept 1 to make him
eligible for post-season. Maybe they're counting on Wagner being back,
but Al Reyes seemed like a good fallback if Wagner was not able to
come back this year.
 >> Stay informed about: Where is Al Reyes? 

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:31:29 GMT, kenny77445 DeleteThis @home.net (Kenny Paulson)
wrote:

>He's in Double A for now. He'll probably get called up on Sept. 1st.
>
>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Wagner-out-3-weeks-Mets-sign-ex-Ray-Reyes;_ylt=Ak9iw.lmdLgbptb2rigNMmGFCLcF?urn=mlb,102414

>>>
>>> Lots of skillfully evasive stuff from Omar. But for some reason, no
>>> one mentioned Al Reyes. I thought that he had enough positives to
>>> merit a look before Sept 1. Anyone know why the conspicuous absence?
>>
>>I think he might be in N'Orleans.

Thanks. I was wondering if he'd be up before Sept 1 to make him
eligible for post-season. Maybe they're counting on Wagner being back,
but Al Reyes seemed like a good fallback if Wagner was not able to
come back this year.
 >> Stay informed about: Where is Al Reyes? 

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> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:31:29 GMT, kenny77445 RemoveThis @home.net (Kenny Paulson)
> wrote:
>
>>He's in Double A for now. He'll probably get called up on Sept. 1st.
>>
>>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Wagner-out-3-weeks-Mets-sign-ex-Ray-Reyes;_ylt=Ak9iw.lmdLgbptb2rigNMmGFCLcF?urn=mlb,102414
>
>>>>
>>>> Lots of skillfully evasive stuff from Omar. But for some reason, no
>>>> one mentioned Al Reyes. I thought that he had enough positives to
>>>> merit a look before Sept 1. Anyone know why the conspicuous absence?
>>>
>>>I think he might be in N'Orleans.
>
> Thanks. I was wondering if he'd be up before Sept 1 to make him
> eligible for post-season. Maybe they're counting on Wagner being back,
> but Al Reyes seemed like a good fallback if Wagner was not able to
> come back this year.

My understanding is that, as long as Al Reyes is in the organization on
August 31, he can be included on the post-season roster in place of a player
on the 60-day DL. Considering that the Mets have numerous candidates for
the 60-day DL (Alou, El Duque, Armas), they should have a lot of flexibility
if they wanted to revamp their pen during the month of September.
 >> Stay informed about: Where is Al Reyes? 

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:04:35 -0400, "Micheal Ray" <mrr.RemoveThis@spamspam.com>
wrote:

>
>"O'Bob" <O'Bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:31:29 GMT, kenny77445.RemoveThis@home.net (Kenny Paulson)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>He's in Double A for now. He'll probably get called up on Sept. 1st.
>>>
>>>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Wagner-out-3-weeks-Mets-sign-ex-Ray-Reyes;_ylt=Ak9iw.lmdLgbptb2rigNMmGFCLcF?urn=mlb,102414
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of skillfully evasive stuff from Omar. But for some reason, no
>>>>> one mentioned Al Reyes. I thought that he had enough positives to
>>>>> merit a look before Sept 1. Anyone know why the conspicuous absence?
>>>>
>>>>I think he might be in N'Orleans.
>>
>> Thanks. I was wondering if he'd be up before Sept 1 to make him
>> eligible for post-season. Maybe they're counting on Wagner being back,
>> but Al Reyes seemed like a good fallback if Wagner was not able to
>> come back this year.
>
>My understanding is that, as long as Al Reyes is in the organization on
>August 31, he can be included on the post-season roster in place of a player
>on the 60-day DL. Considering that the Mets have numerous candidates for
>the 60-day DL (Alou, El Duque, Armas), they should have a lot of flexibility
>if they wanted to revamp their pen during the month of September.

I thought that the only way to get into post-season play was for the
player to be called up to replace someone on the 24-man active roster.
That would imply that they would have to injure a pitcher. A relief
pitcher. With an ERA over 6. The tough part is deciding which
one...there are so many tempting choices.

Seriously, I thought that another pitcher would have to go down for Al
Reyes to be eligible unless he's on the active roster before Sept 1.
But I'm probably misinterpreting something.
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> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:04:35 -0400, "Micheal Ray" <mrr.TakeThisOut@spamspam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"O'Bob" <O'Bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:31:29 GMT, kenny77445.TakeThisOut@home.net (Kenny Paulson)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>He's in Double A for now. He'll probably get called up on Sept. 1st.
>>>>
>>>>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Wagner-out-3-weeks-Mets-sign-ex-Ray-Reyes;_ylt=Ak9iw.lmdLgbptb2rigNMmGFCLcF?urn=mlb,102414
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of skillfully evasive stuff from Omar. But for some reason, no
>>>>>> one mentioned Al Reyes. I thought that he had enough positives to
>>>>>> merit a look before Sept 1. Anyone know why the conspicuous absence?
>>>>>
>>>>>I think he might be in N'Orleans.
>>>
>>> Thanks. I was wondering if he'd be up before Sept 1 to make him
>>> eligible for post-season. Maybe they're counting on Wagner being back,
>>> but Al Reyes seemed like a good fallback if Wagner was not able to
>>> come back this year.
>>
>>My understanding is that, as long as Al Reyes is in the organization on
>>August 31, he can be included on the post-season roster in place of a
>>player
>>on the 60-day DL. Considering that the Mets have numerous candidates for
>>the 60-day DL (Alou, El Duque, Armas), they should have a lot of
>>flexibility
>>if they wanted to revamp their pen during the month of September.
>
> I thought that the only way to get into post-season play was for the
> player to be called up to replace someone on the 24-man active roster.
> That would imply that they would have to injure a pitcher. A relief
> pitcher. With an ERA over 6. The tough part is deciding which
> one...there are so many tempting choices.
>

Second-half ERAs:

Feliciano 7.30
Heilman 7.71
Smith 7.71
Sanchez 5.91


> Seriously, I thought that another pitcher would have to go down for Al
> Reyes to be eligible unless he's on the active roster before Sept 1.
> But I'm probably misinterpreting something.

I believe this is how the Angels put K-Rod on their post-season roster a few
years back: He made his first appearance with the team in the middle of
September and was then placed on the post-season roster.

I'm sure Omar is thinking that there's no need to exacerbate matters by
DL'ing a veteran reliever this week; instead, I would expect him wait until
September 1 to promote Reyes, with an eye towards including him on the
post-season roster. Hopefully, he'll be put in place of one of the quartet
listed above.
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>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:31:29 GMT, kenny77445 RemoveThis @home.net (Kenny Paulson)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>He's in Double A for now. He'll probably get called up on Sept. 1st.
>>>
>>>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Wagner-out-3-weeks-Mets-sign-ex-Ray-Reyes;_ylt=Ak9iw.lmdLgbptb2rigNMmGFCLcF?urn=mlb,102414
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of skillfully evasive stuff from Omar. But for some reason, no
>>>>> one mentioned Al Reyes. I thought that he had enough positives to
>>>>> merit a look before Sept 1. Anyone know why the conspicuous absence?
>>>>
>>>>I think he might be in N'Orleans.
>>
>> Thanks. I was wondering if he'd be up before Sept 1 to make him
>> eligible for post-season. Maybe they're counting on Wagner being back,
>> but Al Reyes seemed like a good fallback if Wagner was not able to
>> come back this year.
>
> My understanding is that, as long as Al Reyes is in the organization on
> August 31, he can be included on the post-season roster in place of a
> player on the 60-day DL. Considering that the Mets have numerous
> candidates for the 60-day DL (Alou, El Duque, Armas), they should have a
> lot of flexibility if they wanted to revamp their pen during the month of
> September.

They have to be on the 40 man roster to be eligible for post season, no?
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>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:31:29 GMT, kenny77445.RemoveThis@home.net (Kenny Paulson)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>He's in Double A for now. He'll probably get called up on Sept. 1st.
>>>>
>>>>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Wagner-out-3-weeks-Mets-sign-ex-Ray-Reyes;_ylt=Ak9iw.lmdLgbptb2rigNMmGFCLcF?urn=mlb,102414
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of skillfully evasive stuff from Omar. But for some reason, no
>>>>>> one mentioned Al Reyes. I thought that he had enough positives to
>>>>>> merit a look before Sept 1. Anyone know why the conspicuous absence?
>>>>>
>>>>>I think he might be in N'Orleans.
>>>
>>> Thanks. I was wondering if he'd be up before Sept 1 to make him
>>> eligible for post-season. Maybe they're counting on Wagner being back,
>>> but Al Reyes seemed like a good fallback if Wagner was not able to
>>> come back this year.
>>
>> My understanding is that, as long as Al Reyes is in the organization on
>> August 31, he can be included on the post-season roster in place of a
>> player on the 60-day DL. Considering that the Mets have numerous
>> candidates for the 60-day DL (Alou, El Duque, Armas), they should have a
>> lot of flexibility if they wanted to revamp their pen during the month of
>> September.
>
> They have to be on the 40 man roster to be eligible for post season, no?

I'm not sure whether it's the 40-man roster or just in the organization.
I'm guessing it's the latter. I mean, the Braves right now have two
catchers on their 40-man roster; if one of them were to get injured in
September, I can't imagine them being forced to go into the post-season (not
that they're going to make it, mind you) with just one catcher.
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:00:18 -0700, jonathan wrote:

>
> 1. Pedro Martinez can't go out there and throw 110 pitches in 5 innings.
> I'm sorry. If the Mets want to win this division, Pedro Martinez needs to
> show up in a huge game, and last night he didn't, especially when his
> lineup gave him a 7 run lead.

Is this Jonathan or did someone upsurp your handle?


Ruben

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On Aug 27, 2:02 pm, Ruben <ru... DeleteThis @www2.mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:00:18 -0700, jonathan wrote:
>
> > 1. Pedro Martinez can't go out there and throw 110 pitches in 5 innings.
> > I'm sorry. If the Mets want to win this division, Pedro Martinez needs to
> > show up in a huge game, and last night he didn't, especially when his
> > lineup gave him a 7 run lead.
>
> Is this Jonathan or did someone upsurp your handle?
>
> Ruben
>
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> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
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It's me. What part of this is so contrary to my normal act? Whether
you believe it or not Ruben, I love complete games. I just don't like
pitchers throwing 130-140 pitches to get them. To me, when a guy goes
out and throws 100 pitches in 5 innings, regardless of whether it's 5
shutout innings or 5 innings 5 runs, it's a bad start. I tell all of
my pitchers that for me, a perfect game takes 21 pitches. We play 7
innings. There are 21 outs. I would like to see 21 first pitch outs.
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:01:41 -0700 (PDT), jonathan
<jmerin77.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 27, 7:44 am, O'Bob <O'...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious now... Do you think they should stick with the current
>> bullpen? The thread was about Al Reyes. I would at least like to see
>> him get a chance. I'm not sure what Feliciano is doing for the club
>> at present. That seems like a reasonable tradeoff to me. You're
>> probably more familiar with Al Reyes' lifetime stats, so I'd love to
>> hear your opinion on that.
>
>I guess my point is that I have no problem trading out relievers.
>Hell, you can dump them all. I just don't think any of the options
>are any good, whether it's Al Reyes or Eddie Kunz or Robert Parnell or
>Ricardo Rincon or whatever. This team has to realize that it's
>bullpen is awful. The rest of the ballclub has to play with that
>assumption. That means the starters have to understand that 5 innings
>outings are deathly, and offense has to understand that if they don't
>pick it up against the other team's bullpen, this team is sunk.

The odd thing is that before Stokes and Ayala arrived, failure seemed
pervasive among the entire pen. Almost like something contageous--
Like the low-energy "Willie Mets" syndrome but localized to the pen.
Kunz seemed to fall into the pattern (though it may have been good to
see him once more), but Al Reyes, Parnell, or Rincon may add the
needed spark.

Stokes and Ayala have looked promising (and Heilman looked good
recently for 3 innings). Odd to think that the others could just melt
down en masse, but maybe a shakeup could renew their effectiveness.
Hopefully before Stokes and Ayala catch bullpen-itis from the others.
Sounds mystical but how did the entire BP take a simultaneous dive.
Not like they hadn't performed well earlier.
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> "jonathan" <jmeri... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 28, 2:56 pm, "Micheal Ray" <m... DeleteThis @spamspam.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> So far, Dan Warthen has impressed me with his work with the starters.
> He hasn't impressed me in the bullpen at all.  I'd love to rehire
> Peterson just to work with the bullpen.
> --------------
>
> In addition to this, I'm worried about Warthen's impact on those who are
> doing well under his stewardship.  I mean, Peterson was a stickler for
> avoiding pitching injuries, something Warthen isn't known for.  It looks
> like Maine has gone down as the first casualty, and I'm crossing my fingers
> in regard to Ollie's new windup.
>

I keep wanting to hear Ron Darling comment more on John Maine. To me,
they're incredibly similar pitchers. Both are mid-90's guys with so
much movement that they have a tendency to try to be too fine. I
really think Maine nibbles too much. Darling finally learned (thanks
to Gary Carter's insistence) to throw the ball down the middle of the
plate and let it move. Maine needs that. He just throws way too many
pitches, and frankly, he's not easy to hit even when you make
contact. There's so much movement that he's hard to square up on.

> ---------------
>
>
>
> > > Stokes and Ayala have looked promising (and Heilman looked good
> > > recently for 3 innings). Odd to think that the others could just melt
> > > down en masse, but maybe a shakeup could renew their effectiveness.
>
> > I don't think it's that odd because they're all pieces of one unit. If one
> > guy has to step up to become the closer in Wagner's absence, it pretty
> > much
> > upsets the apple cart for everyone else, as they, too, have their roles
> > changed. Ditto for fatigue, which seems to be a virus best cured by the
> > infusion of a couple of non-tired arms (e.g., Stokes and Ayala).
>
> Stokes has some stuff.  He's mid-90's with a decent breaking ball.
> The biggest problem is his fastball is very straight and his command
> leaves a lot to be desired.  I actually think he could be a decent
> reliever, and I believe he's not even arbitration eligible until after
> next year.  I think he could be a good part of next year's bullpen.
>
> Feliciano is wearing me out because each year his command seems to go
> a little bit more.  It seems like he's 2-0 and 3-1 on everybody, even
> the lefties.
>
> ---------
>
> To use Jerry's words, he's avoiding contact.  To these eyes, he just looks
> tired.
>
> -----------
>
> I actually think Schoeneweis has been decent, especially as a
> situational guy, and he'll be around next year with the contract.
> -------------
>
> Interestingly, he seems to be the guy they tried to deal at last month's
> deadline.  Although they didn't find any takers then, I'd bet the ranch they
> ditch him this off-season.
>

I'd like to see it. We'll see if it happens. That contract is a
pretty good albatross. The real key for me is if Omar can find a way
to move Luis Castillo. That would be a miracle.

> ---------------
>
> I think Sanchez is still hurt.  If he's not, then he lost what he
> had.  He can't survive at 88-90.  When he was 94-96, he was nasty.  He
> doesn't have the stuff to be 88-90.
>
> -----------------
>
> He's really wasting a roster spot right now.  I had suggested earlier in the
> year that he accept a demotion to AAA, in the hopes that he could regain his
> velocity down there.  By now, I'm more concerned with how many games he
> might negatively impact in September and whether they'll include him on the
> post-season roster.
> -----------------
>
> I've never been a Heilman guy.  Like Feliciano, his command has seemed
> to get worse over the years.  He pitches behind a lot.
>
> -----------------
>
> The things that jump out from Heilman's stat line are his walks, dingers
> surrendered and HBP -- all of which suggest that command has been an issue.
> Beyond the whole Yadier Molina/fragile confidence issue, there's also the
> idea that he's again throwing his slider, a pitch Peterson didn't want him
> throwing.  Was Peterson against the slider because he only wanted Heilman to
> be a two-pitch pitcher, or was he forecasting a potential arm injury?
> ----------------
>

I don't know. You could argue Peterson may have felt the slider
wasn't a quality enough pitch to get major league hitters out. I'm
purely speculating. Heilman just makes me crazy because like Maine, I
find him to be a nibbler. His ball moves a lot, and I just feel like
if he'd pitch more aggressively in the zone, he's have more success.

> I have been a Joe Smith guy because I just like having sinkerballers
> in the bullpen because theoretically, they're harder to take deep.  I
> don't know that he'll ever get lefties out but he's dominant against
> righties.
>
> The reason the '06 bullpen was so good was the Mets had two guys
> (Heilman and Sanchez) who could get lefties and righties out.  That
> allowed them to use everybody else (Feliciano, Bradford, etc.) in
> situations.  This year, nobody out there has been able to get both
> out, and that's been the biggest problem.  I have some hope for
> Stokes, and Ayala looks good, although he's a free agent after the
> year.
>
> ----------
>
> I like Ayala.  He has the potential to be that Cinderella story of that guy
> trapped on a losing team all his life, but rising to the occasion when he
> gets dealt to a contender.  And lord knows, the Mets need him to step up
> like Cinderella right now.
> -----------
>

He throws strikes, so obviously I like that. Sometimes I don't think
the pitchers quite realize how good a defensive team this is behind
him. The Mets have been one of the best defensive teams in baseball
over the last 3-4 years.

> > > Hopefully before Stokes and Ayala catch bullpen-itis from the others.
> > > Sounds mystical but how did the entire BP take a simultaneous dive.
> > > Not like they hadn't performed well earlier.
>
> > That's really why I want Al Reyes here: To give the other guys a few days
> > off.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Again, it can't hurt.  He can't be any worse then what's been out
> there.
> ------------
>
> I have to think Reyes would be an upgrade over Sanchez.  I mean, Reyes has
> been serving up dingers, but he's still able to strike people out.

It's worth a shot. I agree with your point that somebody needs to get
hot, and who knows who that is really going to be.
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> <jmerin77.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Aug 27, 7:44 am, O'Bob <O'...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm curious now... Do you think they should stick with the current
>>> bullpen? The thread was about Al Reyes. I would at least like to see
>>> him get a chance. I'm not sure what Feliciano is doing for the club
>>> at present. That seems like a reasonable tradeoff to me. You're
>>> probably more familiar with Al Reyes' lifetime stats, so I'd love to
>>> hear your opinion on that.
>>
>>I guess my point is that I have no problem trading out relievers.
>>Hell, you can dump them all. I just don't think any of the options
>>are any good, whether it's Al Reyes or Eddie Kunz or Robert Parnell or
>>Ricardo Rincon or whatever. This team has to realize that it's
>>bullpen is awful. The rest of the ballclub has to play with that
>>assumption. That means the starters have to understand that 5 innings
>>outings are deathly, and offense has to understand that if they don't
>>pick it up against the other team's bullpen, this team is sunk.
>
> The odd thing is that before Stokes and Ayala arrived, failure seemed
> pervasive among the entire pen. Almost like something contageous--
> Like the low-energy "Willie Mets" syndrome but localized to the pen.


To this end, it was very interesting that, earlier in the season, the only
guys producing on offense were Church and Schneider, two guys who were new
to the team and had not suffered through last September's collapse.


> Kunz seemed to fall into the pattern (though it may have been good to
> see him once more)

I agree. While I understand he has a somewhat limited repertoire (i.e.,
he's going to need some type of off-speed pitch), I don't think we saw other
teams teeing off on him so much as rookie jitters.


, but Al Reyes, Parnell, or Rincon may add the
> needed spark.

A spark is a funny thing. I remember reading how there was no way a
33-yr-old retread like Tatis could ever provide a spark to the ballclub.
You never know where it's going to come from.



>
> Stokes and Ayala have looked promising (and Heilman looked good
> recently for 3 innings). Odd to think that the others could just melt
> down en masse, but maybe a shakeup could renew their effectiveness.


I don't think it's that odd because they're all pieces of one unit. If one
guy has to step up to become the closer in Wagner's absence, it pretty much
upsets the apple cart for everyone else, as they, too, have their roles
changed. Ditto for fatigue, which seems to be a virus best cured by the
infusion of a couple of non-tired arms (e.g., Stokes and Ayala).



> Hopefully before Stokes and Ayala catch bullpen-itis from the others.
> Sounds mystical but how did the entire BP take a simultaneous dive.
> Not like they hadn't performed well earlier.

That's really why I want Al Reyes here: To give the other guys a few days
off.
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