Retired #'s

On 4 Oct 2004 13:16:19 -0700, ventman.DeleteThis@earthlink.net (Anthony V) wrote:

>Reese, Campanella, and Robinson only played in Brooklyn. The others
>played for the Brooklyn Dodgers at some point. Their retired numbers
>still stand
>
>Spahn was a Boston and Milwaukee Brave, Mathews was all three cities
>(the only such person), and Aaron was Milwaukee and Atlanta Braves.
>THeir numbers stand. There are other solely Atlanta Brave retirees
>
>Harmon Killebrew was a Senator for 7 years. His number is retired
>Walter Johnson did not wear a uniform number in his day (pre 1936)
>

So hopefully, The Kid, the Hawk and Le Grand Orange will not have
their two (!) numbers used by any future members of this franchise.

Roberta
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"Adam" <adam.crowson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The answer is yes and no...kind of. As far as the Dodgers go, I would
> guess there were some retired numbers but I've never seen those
> numbers posted at Dodger Stadium. The Braves have retired
> numbers...Warren Spahn. The Senators, however, do not. Walter Johnson
> would have certainly retired his number with the Senators, but when
> they moved to Minnesota in 1960, Johnson's number is not at the
> Metrodome...HOWEVER, the Twins had a Walter Johnson bobblehead
> giveaway night this season.
>
>

I realize I'm very late in this discussion, but ... Walter Johnson never
wore a uniform number. In fact, until 1929, no MLB player (except the
Cleveland Indians for one month in 1923 and the St. Louis Cardinals for
about a month in 1925) wore a number. The first numbered team for an entire
season was the New York Yankees in 1929. Many teams began wearing numbers
that year, but the Yankees were the first on the field -- and their
opponents that first day weren't wearing numbers. (I think it was the
Philadelphia A's, who didn't begin wearing numbers on the home uniforms
until 1934 -- though they did start with them on the road jerseys in 1931.)

As for the original question ... the Dodgers and Giants retained uniform
numbers that had been retired when the teams left their original cities, and
those numbers remain retired. The Braves did not retire any numbers until
either just before or just after their arrival in Atlanta, and Warren
Spahn's 21 was the first number so honored. Other teams that moved (the
Browns to Baltimore, the original Senators to Minnesota, the expansion
Senators to Texas, the A's to Kansas City and then to Oakland) didn't have
any retired numbers when the moves took place.

Jack
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