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Chaos

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:51 pm
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2684794

The Reds think they got damaged goods when they acquired reliever Gary
Majewski from the Nationals last season. And now they are prepared to take
their case to Major League Baseball.

"We don't feel like we were dealt with fairly, and you can go to the bank
that we're not going to take it sitting down," Reds general manager Wayne
Krivsky said at the team's Redsfest on Saturday, according to the Cincinnati
Post.

Cincinnati was unaware that Majewski had a sore shoulder when the team
acquired him in a trade with Washington.

The Reds didn't know that the right-hander had a cortisone injection in his
shoulder before the All-Star break. Majewski told Cincinnati that his
shoulder has bothered him since spring training.

A medical test found no serious injury, but the reliever was placed on the
15-day disabled list soon after the trade before being activated in
September.

"We've been doing our due diligence for a long time," Krivsky told The Post.
"It's in the hands of our lawyers. When they feel comfortable that they've
done everything possible and put it on paper so that it can be submitted all
at one time, it will be submitted and then it'll be in the hands of the
commissioner's office."

Majewski and reliever Bill Bray were the keys in an eight-player deal on
July 13 that sent outfielder Austin Kearns and shortstop Felipe Lopez to
Washington.

After the trade, Krivsky left a telephone message for Nationals general
manager Jim Bowden.

"I did call him, and I have not heard back," Krivsky said. "I just wanted to
have a conversation."

Bowden said he was surprised by the controversy in Cincinnati over the
condition of Majewski's shoulder.

"I don't think they feel that way," Bowden said before a game against
Florida last season. "If they did, I know one thing: Wayne Krivsky would
call me directly.

"And our organization is always forthright honest in any transaction we
make. We supply every documentation that's ever asked on every single
player. I think that's just a media report. I don't think there's any truth
to it, and the Reds have certainly not called us and they certainly would
call us if there was an issue."

Bowden later issued a statement saying he was "disappointed" by Krivsky's
statement that he had tried to reach him about the trade.

"I never received either a call or a message from Wayne, but when I read his
comments this evening, I called him and reminded him that the Cincinnati
Reds had received all of the medical information they requested, both before
and after the trade," Bowden's statement said. "It is also worth remembering
that Gary pitched for us right up to the trade and has continued doing so
for the Reds up until now."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

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Dan Szymborski

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:51 pm
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In article <cFHch.961$ja6.176@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>,
booger_snot RemoveThis @nostril.com says...
> http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2684794
>
> The Reds think they got damaged goods when they acquired reliever Gary
> Majewski from the Nationals last season. And now they are prepared to take
> their case to Major League Baseball.
>
> "We don't feel like we were dealt with fairly, and you can go to the bank
> that we're not going to take it sitting down," Reds general manager Wayne
> Krivsky said at the team's Redsfest on Saturday, according to the Cincinnati
> Post.
>
> Cincinnati was unaware that Majewski had a sore shoulder when the team
> acquired him in a trade with Washington.
>
> The Reds didn't know that the right-hander had a cortisone injection in his
> shoulder before the All-Star break. Majewski told Cincinnati that his
> shoulder has bothered him since spring training.
>
> A medical test found no serious injury, but the reliever was placed on the
> 15-day disabled list soon after the trade before being activated in
> September.
>
> "We've been doing our due diligence for a long time," Krivsky told The Post.
> "It's in the hands of our lawyers. When they feel comfortable that they've
> done everything possible and put it on paper so that it can be submitted all
> at one time, it will be submitted and then it'll be in the hands of the
> commissioner's office."

I always find it amazing that when people do something
unbelievably dumb, very often, they take actions that keep
reminding people how dumb they are.

The idea that the Reds did their due diligence is ridiculous. I
guess Krivsky wants to be known as dumb *and* lazy, not just
dumb.

--
Dan Szymborski
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"A critic who refuses to attack what is bad is not
a whole-hearted supporter of what is good."

-Robert Schumann

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David Short

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:51 pm
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"Dan Szymborski" <dan.DeleteThis@baseballprimer.com> wrote in message
> In article <cFHch.961$ja6.176@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>,
>>
>> "We've been doing our due diligence for a long time," Krivsky told The
>> Post.
>> "It's in the hands of our lawyers. When they feel comfortable that
>> they've
>> done everything possible and put it on paper so that it can be submitted
>> all
>> at one time, it will be submitted and then it'll be in the hands of the
>> commissioner's office."
>
> I always find it amazing that when people do something
> unbelievably dumb, very often, they take actions that keep
> reminding people how dumb they are.
>
> The idea that the Reds did their due diligence is ridiculous. I
> guess Krivsky wants to be known as dumb *and* lazy, not just
> dumb.

This is the press pandering to egos at a press event.
Where is the grievance? Why hasn't it already been filed?
It never will be.

dfs
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JustTom

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:27 am
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 21:51:04 GMT, "Chaos" <booger_snot RemoveThis @nostril.com>
wrote:

>http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2684794
>
>The Reds think they got damaged goods when they acquired reliever Gary
>Majewski from the Nationals last season. And now they are prepared to take
>their case to Major League Baseball.
>
>"We don't feel like we were dealt with fairly, and you can go to the bank
>that we're not going to take it sitting down," Reds general manager Wayne
>Krivsky said at the team's Redsfest on Saturday, according to the Cincinnati
>Post.
>
>Cincinnati was unaware that Majewski had a sore shoulder when the team
>acquired him in a trade with Washington.
>
>The Reds didn't know that the right-hander had a cortisone injection in his
>shoulder before the All-Star break. Majewski told Cincinnati that his
>shoulder has bothered him since spring training.
>
>A medical test found no serious injury, but the reliever was placed on the
>15-day disabled list soon after the trade before being activated in
>September.
>
>"We've been doing our due diligence for a long time," Krivsky told The Post.
>"It's in the hands of our lawyers. When they feel comfortable that they've
>done everything possible and put it on paper so that it can be submitted all
>at one time, it will be submitted and then it'll be in the hands of the
>commissioner's office."
>
>Majewski and reliever Bill Bray were the keys in an eight-player deal on
>July 13 that sent outfielder Austin Kearns and shortstop Felipe Lopez to
>Washington.
>
>After the trade, Krivsky left a telephone message for Nationals general
>manager Jim Bowden.
>
>"I did call him, and I have not heard back," Krivsky said. "I just wanted to
>have a conversation."
>
>Bowden said he was surprised by the controversy in Cincinnati over the
>condition of Majewski's shoulder.
>
>"I don't think they feel that way," Bowden said before a game against
>Florida last season. "If they did, I know one thing: Wayne Krivsky would
>call me directly.
>
>"And our organization is always forthright honest in any transaction we
>make. We supply every documentation that's ever asked on every single
>player. I think that's just a media report. I don't think there's any truth
>to it, and the Reds have certainly not called us and they certainly would
>call us if there was an issue."
>
>Bowden later issued a statement saying he was "disappointed" by Krivsky's
>statement that he had tried to reach him about the trade.
>
>"I never received either a call or a message from Wayne, but when I read his
>comments this evening, I called him and reminded him that the Cincinnati
>Reds had received all of the medical information they requested, both before
>and after the trade," Bowden's statement said. "It is also worth remembering
>that Gary pitched for us right up to the trade and has continued doing so
>for the Reds up until now."
>
>Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
>

Is that a new story? It looks like the same quotes and stuff that
occurred at the time Maj went down.

As I said then, I really wish WK would just STFU and quit drawing
attention to the fact he got snookered. MLB said at the time that it
was "buyer beware" and it took less than a 10 second google search to
find that Maj had had a cortizone shot in the shoulder in may.

Take the "trade" as a very expensive beginner GM lesson and move on.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:12 am
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On Dec 3, 4:51 pm, "Chaos" <booger_s....TakeThisOut@nostril.com> wrote:
> http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2684794
>
> The Reds think they got damaged goods when they acquired reliever Gary
> Majewski from the Nationals last season. And now they are prepared to take
> their case to Major League Baseball.
>
> "We don't feel like we were dealt with fairly, and you can go to the bank
> that we're not going to take it sitting down," Reds general manager Wayne
> Krivsky said at the team's Redsfest on Saturday, according to the Cincinnati
> Post.

There is absolutely nothing new here. There is nothing to indicate the
Reds are "prepared to take their case to Major League Baseball" as the
story states. Or at least, not any moreso than they were several months
ago.

How is this newsworthy?

Puzzled,
--Jeff
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:50 am
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"OrangeDood" <gocincinnati RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165227175.706946.27200@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| On Dec 3, 4:51 pm, "Chaos" <booger_s... RemoveThis @nostril.com> wrote:
| > http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2684794
| >
| > The Reds think they got damaged goods when they acquired reliever Gary
| > Majewski from the Nationals last season. And now they are prepared to
take
| > their case to Major League Baseball.
| >
| > "We don't feel like we were dealt with fairly, and you can go to the
bank
| > that we're not going to take it sitting down," Reds general manager
Wayne
| > Krivsky said at the team's Redsfest on Saturday, according to the
Cincinnati
| > Post.
|
| There is absolutely nothing new here. There is nothing to indicate the
| Reds are "prepared to take their case to Major League Baseball" as the
| story states. Or at least, not any moreso than they were several months
| ago.
|
| How is this newsworthy?
|
| Puzzled,
| --Jeff

Sorry - saw it as a new article...
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:50 am
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"Chaos" <booger_snot.RemoveThis@nostril.com> wrote in message news:jn3dh.2884
> "OrangeDood" <gocincinnati.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | On Dec 3, 4:51 pm, "Chaos" <booger_s....RemoveThis@nostril.com> wrote:
> | > The Reds think they got damaged goods when they acquired reliever
> | There is absolutely nothing new here. There is nothing to indicate the
> | Reds are "prepared to take their case to Major League Baseball" as the
> | story states. Or at least, not any moreso than they were several months
> | ago.
> |
> | How is this newsworthy?
>
> Sorry - saw it as a new article...

It was a new article. It was reported in several places.
It just wasn't newsworthy.

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