Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard

In alt.os.linux.slackware Realto Margarino <rm.RemoveThis@justlinux.ca> says:

>You're pathetic and you're obsessed. There is no "dranyamr" user at
>justlinux.ca. There is no roger.maynard.justlinux.ca.

In 2003, the WHOIS for justlinux.ca listed dranyamlr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com as the owner.

dranyamlr is R.L. Maynard (Roger L. Maynard) spelled backwards.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/msg/eb40e157fe8f...a?dmode
From: Chris Newport <me.RemoveThis@see-my-sig.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: [OT]Who is rm? (REALLY!!)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:00:24 +0000
Organization: The Netunix Consultancy
Message-ID: <2175918.qmPrICvSTy@callisto>

On Thursday 25 December 2003 12:01 am in alt.os.linux.slackware AthlonRob
wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:40:26 +0000, Bonzodog <bonzodog0.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>> So rm is Roger Maynard, 50 years old, living in canada. And serial
>> troller.
>
> AFAIK, he's also the owner of justlinux.ca.
>

crn@phobos:~$ whois justlinux.ca
Status: EXIST
Registrar: Tucows.com Co.
Registrar-no: 156
Registrant-no: 482077
Domaine-no: 482077
Subdomain: justlinux.ca
Renewal-Date: 2004/09/03
Date-Approved: 2002/09/03
Date-Modified: 2003/10/04
Organization: Just Linux
Description: The education of philistines everywhere.
Admin-Name: Realto Margarino
Admin-Title:
Admin-Postal: Just Linux
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
Admin-Phone: 416-538-2192
Admin-Fax:
Admin-Mailbox: dranyamlr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
Tech-Name: Realto Margarino
Tech-Title:
Tech-Postal: Just Linux
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
Tech-Phone: 416-538-2192
Tech-Fax:
Tech-Mailbox: dranyamlr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com
NS1-Hostname: ns14.zoneedit.com
NS1-Netaddress:
NS2-Hostname: ns15.zoneedit.com
NS2-Netaddress:
NS3-Hostname:
NS3-Netaddress:
NS4-Hostname:
NS4-Netaddress:
NS5-Hostname:
NS5-Netaddress:
NS6-Hostname:
NS6-Netaddress:


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 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In alt.os.linux.slackware Realto Margarino <rm.RemoveThis@justlinux.ca> says:

>You're pathetic and you're obsessed. There is no "dranyamr" user at
>justlinux.ca. There is no roger.maynard.justlinux.ca.

On August 28th 2003, , the WHOIS for justlinux.ca listed dranyamlr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com as the owner.

dranyamlr is R.L. Maynard (Roger L. Maynard) spelled backwards.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/msg/0dcaf5a92b22...d?dmode
From: "Realto Margarino 416-538-2192" <dranyamlr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: ESS 1868
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:51:18 -0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <Y2hyc21pdGg=.4d48a14f12667e2e55423b1ac01fcdb4@1093672278.nulluser.com>


This is a crude forgery. The ESS1868 does not work with Slackware.

Rhonda Moffat wrote:

> Johnny Kitchens <jek.RemoveThis@removejoimail.com> wrote:
> > How do I get sound card to work
>
> I have an 1868 and it works fine. I have had it going with both
> ALSA and OSS.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm


--
cordially, even to pathetic loser forgers,

rm



WHOIS information:
justlinux.ca
Just Linux
The education of philistines everywhere.
Realto Margarino
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
416-538-2192
dranyamlr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com

www.reversephonedirectory.com information:
Alessi-Pietrosh, L
223 Symington
Toronto, ON M6P 3W5
(416) 538-2192
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In alt.os.linux.slackware Realto Margarino <rm DeleteThis @justlinux.ca> says:

>You're pathetic and you're obsessed. There is no "dranyamr" user at
>justlinux.ca. There is no roger.maynard.justlinux.ca.

On August 27th 2003, the WHOIS for justlinux.ca listed dranyamlr DeleteThis @hotmail.com as the owner.

dranyamlr is R.L. Maynard (Roger L. Maynard) spelled backwards.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/msg/8ac77d0ea3b9...a?dmode
From: "Roger Maynard" <maynard DeleteThis @ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: New info on Roger L. Maynard / Realto Margarino / The cordially as always Troll
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:39:23 -0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <Y2hyc21pdGg=.4573a17761e0286977c23d354b988b63@1093581563.nulluser.com>


From WHOIS:

justlinux.ca
Just Linux
The education of philistines everywhere.
Realto Margarino
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
416-538-2192
dranyamlr DeleteThis @hotmail.com



From http://www.reversephonedirectory.com/ :

Alessi-Pietrosh, L
223 Symington
Toronto, ON M6P 3W5
(416) 538-2192

(VERY interesting voicemail when you call that number!)
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In alt.os.linux.slackware Realto Margarino <rm.TakeThisOut@justlinux.ca> says:

>You're pathetic and you're obsessed. There is no "dranyamr" user at
>justlinux.ca. There is no roger.maynard.justlinux.ca.

On August 27th 2003, the WHOIS for justlinux.ca listed dranyamlr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com as the owner.

dranyamlr is R.L. Maynard (Roger L. Maynard) spelled backwards.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/msg/8ac77d0ea3b9...a?dmode
From: "Roger Maynard" <maynard.TakeThisOut@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: New info on Roger L. Maynard / Realto Margarino / The cordially as always Troll
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:39:23 -0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <Y2hyc21pdGg=.4573a17761e0286977c23d354b988b63@1093581563.nulluser.com>


From WHOIS:

justlinux.ca
Just Linux
The education of philistines everywhere.
Realto Margarino
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
416-538-2192
dranyamlr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com



From http://www.reversephonedirectory.com/ :

Alessi-Pietrosh, L
223 Symington
Toronto, ON M6P 3W5
(416) 538-2192

(VERY interesting voicemail when you call that number!)
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In alt.os.linux.slackware Realto Margarino <rm DeleteThis @justlinux.ca> says:

>You're pathetic and you're obsessed. There is no "dranyamr" user at
>justlinux.ca. There is no roger.maynard.justlinux.ca.

In February of 2006 the WHOIS for justlinux.ca listed dranyamlr DeleteThis @hotmail.com as the owner.

dranyamlr is R.L. Maynard (Roger L. Maynard) spelled backwards.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.hockey.nhl.mtl-canadiens/msg...897898d
From: "AvT" <avt DeleteThis @avt.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.sports.hockey.nhl.mtl-canadiens
Subject: Roger Maynard is that really you??
Message-ID: <Lb8Ef.8089$Iw6.513403@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:43:34 -0500
Organization: Bell Sympatico

OMG!!

Roger? Is that you? Roger Maynard? You're still on Usenet I see! Are you
still that anal-retentive know-it-all I knew back in our Comp Sci class at
Laurentian U ?? WTF is with this Realto Margarino moniker? Where did you get
that from?

Acutally your signature "sign off" was what gave you away! If I remember
correctly you were pretty good at Unix back in the day. Oh, and now I see
that you've morphed that knowledge into Linux.

Hey, look at that!! You're running your OWN Linux e-mail server? From a Bell
Sympatico account at home? Ooh...Isn't that in clear violation of Bell's
policies?

I see you're still the Usenet Troll Champion! I guess things don't change,
at least not for you! Man you've been a troll since what 92/93?

Oohh...look at that, I just did a WHOIS on your "justlinux.ca" . Everything
is faked including your name, except for the email address you provided! You
can fool a few people who don't know you with that hotmail address but NOT
ME Roger, not me! You see, I can clearly decipher your lame attempt to hide
yourself.

You spelled your REAL name backwards...like this dranyamlr DeleteThis @hotmail.com =
Roger L. Maynard

For those who need proof you can click here and see that I'm NOT lying
http://internic.ca/whois.asp?domain=justlinux.ca&wserver=whois.internic.ca

And I'm sure some of the more astute can look you up now on Google Groups
and probably find your old posts from 92 or 93 when we were at Laurentian U.
You've been a troll for over 14 years now. Don't you think it's time to give
it up already? Grow up man, most of us that went to school with you are now
married and have kids and live very successful lives. What have you done,
besides irritating people on Usenet for the past 14 years??



"Realto Margarino" <rm DeleteThis @biteme.org> wrote in message
news:zO6Ef.8027$Iw6.506202@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Jason <luvvt2004 DeleteThis @yahoo.comnosp{am> trolled:
>> Once again our #1 line is invisible...I can't remember who posted
>> it but our #1 scores a boat load of points one game (last), then is
>> invisible the next 10.....what is up with these guys? I say trade the
>> lot of them and build through the draft...this team is going nowhere,
>> and holding onto the Theos, Koivus, Kovalevs.....aren't doing anything
>> for us in the future. Keep holding onto these overpaid underachievers,
>> and we are screwed for another 10 years.
>
> Well, what are you waiting for? Since it is _your_ team, pull the
> trigger. Make the trades. Bench the slackers. Show us that _your_
> team is a real contender.
>
> I wish I had a team. I guess I'll just continue cheering for the
> Leafs.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In alt.os.linux.slackware Realto Margarino <rm.TakeThisOut@justlinux.ca> says:

>You're pathetic and you're obsessed. There is no "dranyamr" user at
>justlinux.ca. There is no roger.maynard.justlinux.ca.

In October of 2006 the WHOIS for justlinux.ca listed dranyamlr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com as the owner.

dranyamlr is R.L. Maynard (Roger L. Maynard) spelled backwards.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/msg/8ba9e4a90a08...b?dmode
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware,killfile.the.rm.troll,killfile.Realto.Margarino
Subject: Re: RM Unmasked!
From: +Witch Hunter+ <killfile.the.rm.troll.TakeThisOut@killfile.Realto.Margarino>
Organization: killfile.the.rm.troll.TakeThisOut@killfile.Realto.Margarino
Date: 18 Oct 2006 01:01:01 GMT
Message-ID: <X5-dnfYsaKNsSqjYRVn_vA.TakeThisOut@giganews.com>


Michael Black wrote:

>That's the problem with witch hunts, in their attempt to track
>down those they perceive as a danger, the people doing it often
>take down the innocent.

The person who confused Eef Hartman with Realto Margarino (Chick Tower)
was wrong; he had no evidence. That doesn't make those of us who *do*
have solid evidence wrong as well.


From WHOIS:

justlinux.ca
Just Linux
The education of philistines everywhere.
Realto Margarino
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
416-538-2192
dranyamlr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com


For those who are wondering who the "cordially, as always" troll
is, here is the evidence, step by step. He made the error of
starting out using his real identity and then changing things
slowly over time in order to hide -- allowing us to track him
through the changes.




Here is Roger Maynard's very first post.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/07bfda4d65110fe6...ode=sou

Note the sig: cordially, as always, rm

Note the server: ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca

Note the name: Roger Maynard

Note the email address: maynard.TakeThisOut@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca




Here is his last post before losing his Laurentian University account:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/bb70011aae694ebc...ode=sou

Note the server: ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca

Note the name: Roger Maynard

Note the email address: maynard.TakeThisOut@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca




And here he is with his brand new interlog.com account,
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.hockey/msg/a23d985ca7191843?d...e=sourc

Note the new server: gold.interlog.com

Note the new email address: rlm.TakeThisOut@interlog.com

Note the same old name: Roger Maynard

Note the same old content: the same flames to the same newsgroups,
continueing the same conversations using the same name.




Here is where Roger Maynard discovers morphing to avoid killfiles.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/9d632c4604cd905a...ode=sou
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.baseball/msg/fb0553c525315834...ode=sou
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.smokers/msg/230faedfe0295460?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.smokers/msg/62159002e085978a?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.smokers/msg/ba7814965bcccbf3?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.hockey/msg/3dd217e391807f98?d...e=sourc

(In that last one he introduces his "Ronald Matthews" morph that he uses
to this day)

Note the same old server: gold.interlog.com

Note the same old sig: cordially, as always, rm

Note the same old content: the same flames to the same newsgroups,
continueing the same conversations using the same name.




Here he starts his "use the initials R and M" morphs:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.hockey/msg/8b81086071c13ec2?d...e=sourc
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.hockey/msg/e57a5d6ab4b48506?d...e=sourc
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.hockey/msg/7231a0af1557a403?d...e=sourc
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.smokers/msg/65fabfdcd2b41fd5?dmode=source

Note the same old server: gold.interlog.com

Note the same old sig: cordially, as always, rm

Note the same old content: the same flames to the same newsgroups,
continueing the same conversations using the same name.




And here he introduces his "Realto Margarino" morph:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.smokers/msg/56f4171f92d05fa6?dmode=source

Note the same old server: gold.interlog.com




So we see a series of posts from the same account at the same ISP,
starting with the same Roger Maynard name and sig that was used at
Laurentian University, morphing through some random names, settling
down to names such as Ronald Matthews, Ronald McDonald, Rasmussen
Milos and Rosie Matsushita, then we see Realto Margarino - all with
the same email address, same path and same NNTP-Posting-Host.

In this series of posts we see the same "cordially, as always, rm"
sig, the same phrasing, the same newsgroups and the same enemies.

And here we are ten years later watching him follow the exact same
pattern with slightly improved morphing skills, and still using
Ronald Matthews and Realto Margarino as his favorite morphs.

Roger Maynard has been making as many people as possible miserable
for over ten years, devoting thousands of hours to annoying people
who never did him a bit of harm.





Google food:
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Matthews Roger Maynard cordially, as always, rm troll Realto Margarino
Ronald Matthews Roger Maynard cordially, as always, rm troll Realto
Margarino Ronald Matthews Roger Maynard cordially, as always, rm troll
Realto Margarino Ronald Matthews Roger Maynard cordially, as always,
rm troll Realto Margarino Ronald Matthews Roger Maynard cordially, as
always, rm troll Realto Margarino Ronald Matthews Roger Maynard cordially,
as always, rm troll Realto Margarino Ronald Matthews Roger Maynard
cordially, as always, rm troll Realto Margarino Ronald Matthews Roger
Maynard cordially, as always, rm troll Realto Margarino Ronald Matthews
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In alt.os.linux.slackware Realto Margarino <rm.DeleteThis@justlinux.ca> says:

>You're pathetic and you're obsessed. There is no "dranyamr" user at
>justlinux.ca. There is no roger.maynard.justlinux.ca.

In 2007 Roger Maynard changed the WHOIS for justlinux.ca to remove dranyamlr.DeleteThis@hotmail.com.

dranyamlr is R.L. Maynard (Roger L. Maynard) spelled backwards.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/msg/6ea48965dd8...92?dmod
From: - <-@-.->
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: How to best handle forgeries?
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:52:32 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Banana Split Anonymous Remailer
Message-ID: <f8cpqf$iah$1@bananasplit.info>

Roger Maynard changed his WHOIS address and phone number from his house to an
office building. I wonder why?

Old (real) address:
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
416-538-2192

New (fake) address:
1 Yonge Street
Toronto ON M5R 1W2 Canada
416-967-1111

Checking server [whois.cira.ca]
Results:
Status: EXIST
Registrar: Tucows.com Co.
Subdomain: justlinux.ca
Renewal-Date: 2008/09/03
Date-Approved: 2002/09/03
Date-Modified: 2007/06/10
Organization: Just Linux
Description: The education of slack users everywhere.
Admin-Name: Realto Margarino
Admin-Postal: Just Linux
1 Yonge Street
Toronto ON M5R 1W2 Canada
Admin-Phone: 416-967-1111
Admin-Mailbox: dranyamlr.DeleteThis@hotmail.com
Tech-Name: Realto Margarino
Tech-Postal: Just Linux
1 Yonge Street
Toronto ON M5R 1W2 Canada
Tech-Phone: 416-967-1111
Tech-Mailbox: dranyamlr.DeleteThis@hotmail.com
NS1-Hostname: ns14.zoneedit.com
NS2-Hostname: ns15.zoneedit.com

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/msg/5085785580c...18?dmod
Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!...!fe09.news.easynews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
Sender: <rm.DeleteThis@realto.phub.net.cable.rogers.com>
From: anon.DeleteThis@anon.com
Subject: Re: How to best handle forgeries?
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
References: <f8cpqf$iah$1@bananasplit.info>
Message-ID: <kRoqi.315728$G_4.295904@fe09.news.easynews.com>
Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy!
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:14:08 GMT

- <-@-.-> says:

>Roger Maynard changed his WHOIS address and phone number from his house to an
>office building. I wonder why?
>
>Old (real) address:
>964 College Street
>Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
>416-538-2192

His house? You don't know Toronto very well, do you, small fry?

>New (fake) address:
>1 Yonge Street
>Toronto ON M5R 1W2 Canada
>416-967-1111

Wow. The guy knows how to use whois. We're really impressed.

cordially, as always,

rm
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In alt.os.linux.slackware Realto Margarino <rm DeleteThis @justlinux.ca> says:

>You're pathetic and you're obsessed. There is no "dranyamr" user at
>justlinux.ca. There is no roger.maynard.justlinux.ca.

In 2008 the archived WHOIS for justlinux.ca listed dranyamlr DeleteThis @hotmail.com as the owner.

dranyamlr is R.L. Maynard (Roger L. Maynard) spelled backwards.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/msg/4ba0a2eb2df5...d?dmode
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: -=OT=- Anyone remember the BOZOS? -=OT=-
From: +Chiron+ <Chiron_Files DeleteThis @OperaMail.com>
Organization: Cranky Centaurs, inc.
Date: 22 Mar 2008 12:34:56 -0500
Message-ID: <Oo6dnWwzPNBl2Xja4p2dnAA DeleteThis @giganews.com>


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On Saturday, 07 Mar 2008 11:40:02 +0000, Richard James wrote:

>He whose name shall not be mentioned

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=dranyamlr
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=justlinux.ca

Hint: dranyamlr is R. L. Maynard spelled backwards...

From archived WHOIS:
justlinux.ca
Just Linux
The education of philistines everywhere.
Realto Margarino
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
416-538-2192
dranyamlr DeleteThis @hotmail.com

Note: he later changed his WHOIS to give the address of a major
newspaper and the phone number of a pizza parlor. Feel free to
contact Tucows.com and ask them to make him follow the rules
about having accurate contact information in the WHOIS for
..ca domains. =)

- --
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 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

Why not just kill file her as I did last year? You save time and miss
nothing of substance.
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:53:38 +0000, George Grapman wrote:

> Why not just kill file her as I did last year? You save time and miss
> nothing of substance.

Why. Roger is one of the better comedians in this group. LOL
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In <16f9aa6e-1444-4ee0-b1cb-a2a313a06d8f RemoveThis @b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> grossman <SavoyBG RemoveThis @aol.com> writes:

>On Apr 21, 2:34=EF=BF=BDam, Realto Margarino <r... RemoveThis @justlinux.ca> trolled:

>> No, the league, with implicit approval from the
>> hillbilly, prejudiced Judge who was the commissioner at the time,
>> conspired against Greenberg. If Greenberg had been a real man, he

>> would have quit baseball and become a tailor, deli owner, or a
>> pawnshop proprietor.

>Not an accountant or a bookmaker?

Or a sabremetrician?


--
Jim
New York, NY
(Please remove "nospam." to get my e-mail address)
http://www.panix.com/~kahn
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard 

In alt.os.linux.slackware James Kahn <kahn DeleteThis @nospam.panix.com> says:
>In <16f9aa6e-1444-4ee0-b1cb-a2a313a06d8f DeleteThis @b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> grossman <SavoyBG DeleteThis @aol.com> writes:

>>On Apr 21, 2:34=EF=BF=BDam, Realto Margarino <r... DeleteThis @justlinux.ca> trolled:

>>> No, the league, with implicit approval from the
>>> hillbilly, prejudiced Judge who was the commissioner at the time,
>>> conspired against Greenberg. If Greenberg had been a real man, he

>>> would have quit baseball and become a tailor, deli owner, or a
>>> pawnshop proprietor.

>>Not an accountant or a bookmaker?

>Or a sabremetrician?

Har, but you should have used the real term, "statfan."

cordially, as always,

rm
--
http://sports.jrank.org/pages/4065/Rose-Pete-Awards-Accomplishments.html
 >> Stay informed about: Realto Margarino's real identity is Roger Maynard