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O'Bob

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:17 pm
Post subject: Ratio of runs in early innings vs late
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I heard the tail end of some comment about the Mets' propensity for
scoring early, then tailing off. Are there stats on this? The comment
that I heard referenced the Reds in the 50's, so apparently this is a
significant thing for the Mets (unless I missed something).

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jess225107

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:16 pm
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On Aug 15, 7:17 pm, O'Bob <O'...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I heard the tail end of some comment about the Mets' propensity for
> scoring early, then tailing off. Are there stats on this? The comment
> that I heard referenced the Reds in the 50's, so apparently this is a
> significant thing for the Mets (unless I missed something).

Was repeated tonite:
first 3 inning @ +100 (Reyes runs and decent starting)
Middle 3 @ +5 (offense begins napping, starters tire in 5th and
6th, long relief not good)
Last3 -55 or so (bullpen gives back lot of gains)
These stats should be apparent to anybody who watches most Mets games.
If the last 3 was a + number, this race would be over.
The middle 3 is the "we got a lead...nap time".

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:18 am
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:16:41 -0700 (PDT), jess225107 RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:

>On Aug 15, 7:17 pm, O'Bob <O'...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I heard the tail end of some comment about the Mets' propensity for
>> scoring early, then tailing off. Are there stats on this? The comment
>> that I heard referenced the Reds in the 50's, so apparently this is a
>> significant thing for the Mets (unless I missed something).
>
>Was repeated tonite:
>first 3 inning @ +100 (Reyes runs and decent starting)
>Middle 3 @ +5 (offense begins napping, starters tire in 5th and
>6th, long relief not good)
>Last3 -55 or so (bullpen gives back lot of gains)
>These stats should be apparent to anybody who watches most Mets games.
>If the last 3 was a + number, this race would be over.
>The middle 3 is the "we got a lead...nap time".

I had no idea it was that bad. The comment that I heard (part of) said
that you'd have to go back to one of the 1950's Reds teams to see that
extreme a ratio, but I wasn't sure that I heard that correctly.

Obviously, the tailing run production in late innings is no chance
occurrence. They do go to sleep when they think they've got the lead.
When the bullpen gives 'em back it's too late to recover. A nasty
combination. Fix either one and the Mets would be way ahead.
You'd think that the hitters would understand by now that no lead is
safe, and try to keep it turned on.

I guess the main difference between Jerry M and Willie is that Willie
couldn't even get them to perform in the first 3 innings. <g>
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