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Raymond DiPerna

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:32 pm
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Now that the first half is coming to a close, below are some of the
things I've found interesting about the 2004 season thus far:

1) Derek Lowe

Since he became a full-time starter:

2002 48/127 BB/K, 2.58 ERA
2003 72/110 BB/K, 4.47 ERA
2004 38/41 BB/K, 6.02 ERA

Terrible trends. It's one thing to be hit-unlucky, but his BB/K ratio
has deteriorated.


2) Kevin Millar

2001 .314/.374/.557 = .931 OPS
2002 .306/.366/.509 = .875 OPS
2003 .276/.348/.472 = .820 OPS
2004 .268/.346/.387 = .733 OPS

He's killing the Red Sox.


3) One of the interesting questions heading into the season was
whether Jose Guillen could retain his 2003 gains:

2003 .311/.359/.569 = .928 OPS
2004 .294/.361/.495 = .856 OPS

Not bad. And his BB rate is up a little.


4) Jaret Wright has already pitched more innings than he has in 5
years. His line:

92 IP, 94 H, 6 HR, 39 BB, 79 K, 3.72 ERA

But... 10 unearned runs.

Still, a better performance than I'd have expected.


5) Javy Lopez:

2003 .328/.378/.687
2004 .318/.370/.482
career .289/.339/.500


6) Baltimore offense after adding Tejada/Palmeiro/Lopez:

411 runs, 7th in the AL
..267 EqA, 5th in the AL
(pitching: 5.13 ERA, last in the AL)


7) Derek Lee: .304/.378/.517 = .895 OPS
swapped for
Hee Seop Choi .270/.393/.514 = .906 OPS


Cool Esteban Loiza:

2003 226.7 IP, 196 H, 17 HR, 56 BB, 207 K, 2.90 ERA
2004 (projected) 239.7 IP, 251 H, 37 HR, 73 BB, 141 K, 4.37 ERA


9) Paul Konerko

2003 .234/.305/.399 = .704 OPS
2004 .280/.368/.545 = .913 OPS


10) Pat Burrell

2003 .209/.309/.404 = .713 OPS
2004 .279/.390/.489 = .879 OPS


11) Andruw Jones's age-27 season, thus far:

2004 .252/.344/.486 = .831 OPS (projects to 26 HR, 48 2B, 82 BB)


12) Lyle Overbay: projects to 72 doubles.


13) Al Leiter: 76.3 IP, 51 H, 18 R, 18 ER, 7 HR, 2.12 ERA. But 41
BB, 46 K.


14) Jason Giambi:

2002 .314/.435/.598 = 1.033 OPS
2003 .250/.412/.527 = .939 OPS
2004 .238/.377/.460 = .837 OPS


15) Alfonso Soriano

2002 .300/.332/.547 = .879 OPS (.298 Eq)
2003 .290/.338/.525 = .863 OPS (.296 EqA)
2004 .294/.335/.457 = .792 OPS (.271 EqA)

--Ray

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Chris Zabel

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:39 am
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"Raymond DiPerna" <rdiperna.DeleteThis@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4eb640b0.0407051732.6443b13e@posting.google.com...
> Now that the first half is coming to a close, below are some of the
> things I've found interesting about the 2004 season thus far:
>
> 1) Derek Lowe
>
> Since he became a full-time starter:
>
> 2002 48/127 BB/K, 2.58 ERA

The Red Sox should have traded him at this point. I'm surprised more teams
don't try to trade players after fluky good seasons when their trade value
is really high.

> 4) Jaret Wright has already pitched more innings than he has in 5
> years. His line:
>
> 92 IP, 94 H, 6 HR, 39 BB, 79 K, 3.72 ERA
>
> But... 10 unearned runs.
>
> Still, a better performance than I'd have expected.

Mazzone seems to have worked his magic again. He turned a pitcher virtually
any team could have picked up free into a decent 5th starter.

> 5) Javy Lopez:
>
> 2003 .328/.378/.687
> 2004 .318/.370/.482
> career .289/.339/.500

I think the real question is what possessed Javy in 2003 to slug like that?
There really is nothing to explain it...

> Cool Esteban Loiza:
>
> 2003 226.7 IP, 196 H, 17 HR, 56 BB, 207 K, 2.90 ERA
> 2004 (projected) 239.7 IP, 251 H, 37 HR, 73 BB, 141 K, 4.37 ERA

I think most expected him to regress to the mean this year after his monster
year last year. At this point though he definitely seems to have
permanently stepped up his game from the pre-2003 version of Esteban.

> 9) Paul Konerko
>
> 2003 .234/.305/.399 = .704 OPS
> 2004 .280/.368/.545 = .913 OPS

If anyone could have guessed AL comeback player of the year, Konerko was as
good a guess as anyone. Last year just seemed like an anomaly(though
Comiskey seems to be much more of a hitter's park this year than in years
past, helping his numbers).

> 11) Andruw Jones's age-27 season, thus far:
>
> 2004 .252/.344/.486 = .831 OPS (projects to 26 HR, 48 2B, 82 BB)

Andruw's star has fallen so far. He's still a very valuable player but
there has been open talk this year of possibly trading him(before he was
considered untouchable). I think it's clear to everyone that he's lost a
step or two in the outfield and at this point it's abundantly clear he will
never learn to stay away from bad breaking balls behind in the count. If I
were the Braves I'd get the Yankees(or whoever else wants to get in on
Beltran) on the phone and see what they offer for Jones. In a couple of
years it will be much harder to move him and his contract.

> 14) Jason Giambi:
>
> 2002 .314/.435/.598 = 1.033 OPS
> 2003 .250/.412/.527 = .939 OPS
> 2004 .238/.377/.460 = .837 OPS

He seems to have lost a little bat speed. I strongly doubt he will ever put
up MVP numbers again(the A's are lucky they didn't get stuck with his
contract).

> 15) Alfonso Soriano
>
> 2002 .300/.332/.547 = .879 OPS (.298 Eq)
> 2003 .290/.338/.525 = .863 OPS (.296 EqA)
> 2004 .294/.335/.457 = .792 OPS (.271 EqA)

In a year Soriano will be gone from the Rangers, lost to free agency. He
was just the token player they had to accept back to justify to fans for
getting rid of A-Rod(his contract).

--
"They tease me now, telling me it was only a dream. But does it matter
whether it was a dream or reality, if the dream made known to me the
truth?" - Dostoevsky

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Cameron Laird

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:07 am
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In article <zWqGc.3454$sD4.1980@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Chris Zabel <alephnull DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
.
.
.
>> 14) Jason Giambi:
>>
>> 2002 .314/.435/.598 = 1.033 OPS
>> 2003 .250/.412/.527 = .939 OPS
>> 2004 .238/.377/.460 = .837 OPS
>
>He seems to have lost a little bat speed. I strongly doubt he will ever put
>up MVP numbers again(the A's are lucky they didn't get stuck with his
>contract).
.
.
.
Lucky? If I go by media reports, Mr. Beane did ... well,
a lot happened to arrive at the result that the Yankees
pay Mr. Giambi's salary.
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Realto Margarino

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:55 am
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Bob-Nob

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:52 pm
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Chris Zabel venit, vidit, et dixit:
> "Raymond DiPerna" <rdiperna DeleteThis @nyc.rr.com> wrote...

>> 1) Derek Lowe

>> Since he became a full-time starter:

>> 2002 48/127 BB/K, 2.58 ERA

> The Red Sox should have traded him at this point. I'm surprised more teams
> don't try to trade players after fluky good seasons when their trade value
> is really high.

But Lowe had pitched really well as a reliever for a few years
before 2002, so 2002 didn't seem quite so much like a fluke. It should
also be noted that Lowe's dERA right now is around 4.80 (and has been
in the upper 4.00s pretty much all season). He's not pitching well, but
he's been pretty unlucky in the distribution of his hits (opponents are
slugging something like 100 points higher against Lowe with runners on
than with no one on).

Catch you later.
--Robert Machemer

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Amherst College, Math & Classics | rise again, and woe to the wicked!"
IF1, IF3, IF9: best films, cast | --Don Quixote (Man of La Mancha)
(What are YOU doing this weekend? See IF12 on May 23rd, 2004)
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John Smith

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:30 pm
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"NATSP1" <natsp1.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >7) Derek Lee: .304/.378/.517 = .895 OPS
> > swapped for
> > Hee Seop Choi .270/.393/.514 = .906 OPS
>
> if anyone can be described as "painfully patient," it's choi. his ABs last
five
> minutes, in which you'll usually see him swing at a pitch once. methinks
he'll
> always have a low AVG, high OBP, which means he'll get completely ignored
by
> the baseball tonight types and slobbered over by the baseball prospectus
types.
> the anti-soriano, as it were.

Which was one of the problems he had with the Cubs. He played like that
last season as well... and notwithstanding his OPS, the Cubs actually
thought that Randall "You can't walk me" Simon was a better player.

> he's also slower than a turnip.

He's also a superb defensive first baseman. Lee is supposed to be great...
Choi is just as good.

Highway robbery by the Fish.
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Anthony Giacalone

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:23 am
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"NATSP1" <natsp1.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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> rdiperna.TakeThisOut@nyc.rr.com (Raymond DiPerna):
> >7) Derek Lee: .304/.378/.517 = .895 OPS
> > swapped for
> > Hee Seop Choi .270/.393/.514 = .906 OPS
>
> if anyone can be described as "painfully patient," it's choi. his ABs last
five
> minutes, in which you'll usually see him swing at a pitch once. methinks
he'll
> always have a low AVG, high OBP, which means he'll get completely ignored
by
> the baseball tonight types and slobbered over by the baseball prospectus
types.
> the anti-soriano, as it were.
>
> he's also slower than a turnip.

Choi has an inside the park HR this year. Weird.

> >9) Paul Konerko
> >
> >2003 .234/.305/.399 = .704 OPS
> >2004 .280/.368/.545 = .913 OPS
>
> yeesh. i had forgotten just how bad konerko was last year.

Konerko had a 19% hit rate in the first half last year. He was way out of
sorts then but there is no way that he was going to stay that low. Most of
his "recovery" can be attributed really horrible luck in the first half of
2003.

> >14) Jason Giambi:
> >
> >2002 .314/.435/.598 = 1.033 OPS
> >2003 .250/.412/.527 = .939 OPS
> >2004 .238/.377/.460 = .837 OPS
>
> always get the walks, but a power drop is disturbing.

Bad knee, bad back. Not a good bet for a strong recovery at this point, is
he?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:23 am
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 00:23:44 -0400, "Anthony Giacalone"
<agiacalone RemoveThis @wideopenwest.com> wrote:

>> >14) Jason Giambi:
>> >
>> >2002 .314/.435/.598 = 1.033 OPS
>> >2003 .250/.412/.527 = .939 OPS
>> >2004 .238/.377/.460 = .837 OPS
>>
>> always get the walks, but a power drop is disturbing.
>
>Bad knee, bad back. Not a good bet for a strong recovery at this point, is
>he?

A lot of his decline this year is attributable to that parasite. When
he's at full strength I'd expect him still to put up a .900 OPS - I
doubt if he'll ever be a serious MVP threat again (although weirder
things have happened) but he should be a quality player for a few more
years.
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:17 am
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> 4) Jaret Wright has already pitched more innings than he has in 5
> years. His line:
>
> 92 IP, 94 H, 6 HR, 39 BB, 79 K, 3.72 ERA
>
> But... 10 unearned runs.
>
> Still, a better performance than I'd have expected.

That's 98 IP, 100 H, 41 BB, 82 K, 3.58 ERA... Smile


> 11) Andruw Jones's age-27 season, thus far:
>
> 2004 .252/.344/.486 = .831 OPS (projects to 26 HR, 48 2B, 82 BB)

..260/.352/.510 = .862 OPS (projects to 29 JR, 49 2B, 84 BB, 100 RBI)


> 12) Lyle Overbay: projects to 72 doubles.

70.


> 13) Al Leiter: 76.3 IP, 51 H, 18 R, 18 ER, 7 HR, 2.12 ERA. But 41
> BB, 46 K.

83.1 IP, 2.05 ERA.

I'll take twice the acceptable number of walks in exchange for half the
expected number of hits. Razz Walks are passive.
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