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Adam

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:50 pm
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EGK wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:33:55 -0400, Adam <splitatom.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> hamandcheese.RemoveThis@betweentheknees.com wrote:
>>> McBain <scottham.list.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If your client threads email messages then its pretty close to a NG
>>>> feel. Most are using thunderbird or agent. Mail in OSX works as well.
>>> Does Agent thread emails?
>>>
>>> I still prefer usenet feeds because my news reader only displays
>>> unread posts and requires no management other than read and refresh
>>> (poll for new).
>>>
>>> -mhd
>> In Thunderbird you can set the folder view to display only unread
>> messages or threads with unread messages. Not sure if other clients can
>> do this as well.
>
> I'm using Agent and it defaults to showing unread messages in red and they
> turn black once read. At least mine does. It's been so long since I've
> used the same customizations I'm no longer sure what I customized and what
> the defaults are. Smile
>
> Can Thunderbird re-download old messages if you delete them? Since Agent
> doesn't support Imap, the emails are via pop3. I thought Imap in
> Thunderbird might allow you to set all messages as unread so they'd download
> again.

TB displays unread messages in bold, then changes them to standard text
once they're read. If the thread is collapsed, then the fields in the
header are underlined to indicate the thread contains unread messages.

With IMAP, if you delete messages in the client, they are deleted on the
server. So far I haven't bothered deleting anything since Gmail gives
you so much space. I just set the folder view to only display threads
with unread messages. I can always switch the view back to "All" if I
want to look up an old thread.

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theBZA

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:34 pm
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EGK <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in
news:sfaau397dlip52as5d2ukef0jft7c7lqki@4ax.com:

>
> Can Thunderbird re-download old messages if you delete them? Since
> Agent doesn't support Imap, the emails are via pop3. I thought Imap
> in Thunderbird might allow you to set all messages as unread so they'd
> download again.

If you delete a message from the newsgroup folder or inbox it will go to
the IMAP/trash folder. Even if you empty the trash, it will still be in the
"all mail" folder. So yeah, there is always a way to get it back unless you
delete it in gmail itself (or from the "all mail" folder using
thunderbird).

HTH

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Vinnie S.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:48 pm
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:50:16 GMT, EGK <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:33:55 -0400, Adam <splitatom.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>hamandcheese@betweentheknees.com wrote:
>>> McBain <scottham.list.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If your client threads email messages then its pretty close to a NG
>>>> feel. Most are using thunderbird or agent. Mail in OSX works as well.
>>>
>>> Does Agent thread emails?
>>>
>>> I still prefer usenet feeds because my news reader only displays
>>> unread posts and requires no management other than read and refresh
>>> (poll for new).
>>>
>>> -mhd
>>
>>In Thunderbird you can set the folder view to display only unread
>>messages or threads with unread messages. Not sure if other clients can
>>do this as well.
>
>I'm using Agent and it defaults to showing unread messages in red and they
>turn black once read. At least mine does. It's been so long since I've
>used the same customizations I'm no longer sure what I customized and what
>the defaults are. Smile


How are you settting this up?

Vinnie S.
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Vinnie S.

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:00 pm
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:33:13 -0700 (PDT), RF <fwdixon.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 21, 8:32 pm, Vinnie S. <n....DeleteThis@coldmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I will check in once in a while, to offer an invite to the regulars who we
>> missed, or ones that post very infrequently. And I will not even rule out a
>> return. But until the SPAM problem is gone, I am out of here.
>
>Who cares what you do?


You do. You responded !

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:10 pm
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On Mar 22, 3:09 pm, EGK <m... DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:48:04 -0400, Vinnie S. <n... DeleteThis @coldmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:50:16 GMT, EGK <m... DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:
> >>I'm using Agent and it defaults to showing unread messages in red and they
> >>turn black once read.   At least mine does.  It's been so long since I've
> >>used the same customizations I'm no longer sure what I customized and what
> >>the defaults are.  Smile
>
> >How are you settting this up?  
>
> Agent in general or the red/black for unread/read messages?  I thinkt the
> red/black was Agent's default but they're unter Tools/options/Colors
>
> You may have already read this but I'll paste it back.  These are the steps
> I used to set up Agent 4.2
>
>  I signed up to the google group with a gmail account so had to forward the
> emails to my pop3 address after I decided to try Agent.  I created a
> secondary email address for Verizon and set gmail (and the Yankees
> googlegroup preferences) to forward email to that.    I think you could
> bypass the extra steps using gmail and just use a
> pop3 address to sign up with as long as you set the group option to send
> replies as emails.  Some people reported they weren't seeing their own
> replies in Agent but I do so I'm not sure what causes that.  It could be the
> extra forwarding.
>
> I added the verizon email address and persona to Agent.   Tools/Server and
> accounts to add the email account and Tools/options/personas for editing the
> persona.  
> Next created a folder in Agent named Yankees_googlegroup and dragged it
> right above this group on my list of usenet groups.  Went to the folder
> properties and set it to use the new verizon persona (email address) to
> reply to emails and use that folder for the default save location. Otherwise
> they'll default to going to your inbox.   All the email posts appear in Red
> and responses are threaded.  When I read them they turn black.
> The only thing different than usenet is the emails come in slower and
> rather than purging for newsgroups I have to use the delete function in
> Agent for emails.   That and, as far as I can tell, I can't force Agent to
> re-download old emails like you could with newsgroup posts.
>
> Most of this was fairly easy if you know your way around Agent.  Since I
> don't use it for email much, I had to figure it out on the fly.  Smile   Other
> than that I only had to ask in the Agent newsgroup how to make emails add a
> person's name or address to the quoted text when replying.   Agent does that
> by default for newsgroups but in email it defaults to "You wrote:" insteadof "(name) wrote:"
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-
>
> "There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
>  didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
>                    (Calvin and Hobbes)

You guys need directions for wiping your ass? How about bleeding?
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theBZA

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:51 pm
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Adam <splitatom.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in
news:ZNudnRkEk4Q0qnjanZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com:

> EGK wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:33:55 -0400, Adam <splitatom.DeleteThis@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hamandcheese.DeleteThis@betweentheknees.com wrote:
>>>> McBain <scottham.list.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If your client threads email messages then its pretty close to a
>>>>> NG feel. Most are using thunderbird or agent. Mail in OSX works
>>>>> as well.
>>>> Does Agent thread emails?
>>>>
>>>> I still prefer usenet feeds because my news reader only displays
>>>> unread posts and requires no management other than read and refresh
>>>> (poll for new).
>>>>
>>>> -mhd
>>> In Thunderbird you can set the folder view to display only unread
>>> messages or threads with unread messages. Not sure if other clients
>>> can do this as well.
>>
>> I'm using Agent and it defaults to showing unread messages in red and
>> they turn black once read. At least mine does. It's been so long
>> since I've used the same customizations I'm no longer sure what I
>> customized and what the defaults are. Smile
>>
>> Can Thunderbird re-download old messages if you delete them? Since
>> Agent doesn't support Imap, the emails are via pop3. I thought Imap
>> in Thunderbird might allow you to set all messages as unread so
>> they'd download again.
>
> TB displays unread messages in bold, then changes them to standard
> text once they're read. If the thread is collapsed, then the fields in
> the header are underlined to indicate the thread contains unread
> messages.
>
> With IMAP, if you delete messages in the client, they are deleted on
> the server. So far I haven't bothered deleting anything since Gmail
> gives you so much space. I just set the folder view to only display
> threads with unread messages. I can always switch the view back to
> "All" if I want to look up an old thread.
>

If you use gmail/IMAP with TB and delete a message from inbox or a
folder, it will still be inthe "all mail" folder in gmail. You can
subscribe (it's the default) to all gmail folders and retrieve an
accidentally deleted message that way. Alternatively, you can just ask
TB to show "unread only" and then not worry.

If someone is concerned about disk space, you can right-click the folder
in TB, choose properties adn then the "retention policies" tab. Set TB
to delete messages after 30 days. As I said above, they will still be in
teh "all mail" folder in gmail so you can get them there. I set TB to
unsubscribe all the "gmail" folders so I'm not cluttering my disk.

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:09 pm
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:48:04 -0400, Vinnie S. <none.TakeThisOut@coldmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:50:16 GMT, EGK <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote:

>>I'm using Agent and it defaults to showing unread messages in red and they
>>turn black once read. At least mine does. It's been so long since I've
>>used the same customizations I'm no longer sure what I customized and what
>>the defaults are. Smile
>
>
>How are you settting this up?

Agent in general or the red/black for unread/read messages? I thinkt the
red/black was Agent's default but they're unter Tools/options/Colors


You may have already read this but I'll paste it back. These are the steps
I used to set up Agent 4.2

I signed up to the google group with a gmail account so had to forward the
emails to my pop3 address after I decided to try Agent. I created a
secondary email address for Verizon and set gmail (and the Yankees
googlegroup preferences) to forward email to that. I think you could
bypass the extra steps using gmail and just use a
pop3 address to sign up with as long as you set the group option to send
replies as emails. Some people reported they weren't seeing their own
replies in Agent but I do so I'm not sure what causes that. It could be the
extra forwarding.

I added the verizon email address and persona to Agent. Tools/Server and
accounts to add the email account and Tools/options/personas for editing the
persona.
Next created a folder in Agent named Yankees_googlegroup and dragged it
right above this group on my list of usenet groups. Went to the folder
properties and set it to use the new verizon persona (email address) to
reply to emails and use that folder for the default save location. Otherwise
they'll default to going to your inbox. All the email posts appear in Red
and responses are threaded. When I read them they turn black.
The only thing different than usenet is the emails come in slower and
rather than purging for newsgroups I have to use the delete function in
Agent for emails. That and, as far as I can tell, I can't force Agent to
re-download old emails like you could with newsgroup posts.

Most of this was fairly easy if you know your way around Agent. Since I
don't use it for email much, I had to figure it out on the fly. Smile Other
than that I only had to ask in the Agent newsgroup how to make emails add a
person's name or address to the quoted text when replying. Agent does that
by default for newsgroups but in email it defaults to "You wrote:" instead
of "(name) wrote:"
--
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"There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
(Calvin and Hobbes)
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:02 am
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:13:39 -0400, hamandcheese RemoveThis @betweentheknees.com
wrote:

>McBain <scottham.list RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>If your client threads email messages then its pretty close to a NG
>>feel. Most are using thunderbird or agent. Mail in OSX works as well.
>
>Does Agent thread emails?

The latest version does.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:16 am
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:39 am
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>You survived dynasties, chokes, 9-11,
>classic games, trolls, Red Sox
>championships. And yet, you were done in
>by SPAM.

Spam? BFD! LOL.

Candy ass ...

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:30 am
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Thankyou Vinnie.




On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:32:32 -0400, Vinnie S. <none.RemoveThis@coldmail.com>
wrote:

>You survived dynasties, chokes, 9-11, classic games, trolls, Red Sox
>championships. And yet, you were done in by SPAM.
>
>I first posted to you around March-April 1996. At that time, I did not know what
>I, or we, were in for. It was a great ride. In those 12 years, I made friends
>here, agrued, fought with the BBAC, broke up with the BBAC, married my wonderful
>wife, and had a beautiful baby girl in 2006. I occasionally thought of quitting
>to post here, but I posting here, was like watching TV for some people, or
>reading books for others. Posting here was a hobby, or a pastime. Or even a walk
>in the park.
>
>
>All that is gone now. You lost not to the Sox, but to Gucci, Nike, Viagra, and
>the country of China.
>
>I will check in once in a while, to offer an invite to the regulars who we
>missed, or ones that post very infrequently. And I will not even rule out a
>return. But until the SPAM problem is gone, I am out of here.
>
>Best of luck and take care.
>
>
>
>For regulars here, you are welcome to:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/yankeesng
>
>
>
>Vinnie S.
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