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Captain_Nemo

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 pm
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Hi All --

Did anyone else wonder why Jorge didn't set Alfonso up low and outside?

Recalling the 2001 WS, I thought that consistent susceptibility was the
reason the NYY traded him.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 pm
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On Jul 12, 5:33 pm, Captain_N... DeleteThis @example.com wrote:
> Hi All --
>
> Did anyone else wonder why Jorge didn't set Alfonso up low and outside?
>

Because all Posuka is good for is playing catch with the pitcher and a
bit of hitting.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 pm
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On Jul 12, 4:51 pm, Captain_N... DeleteThis @example.com wrote:
> In article <1184280113.648398.144... DeleteThis @k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

> Well - that was certainly lucid.

Sorry about the twit. Perhaps Sori has adjusted since 2003 (that's
the postseason you're recalling). This is the scouting report which
is fairly reliable, and it appears he's not that bad on pitches low
and outside, although he probably looks to pull most of the time. I
didn't see the pitch but where did Jorge set before the pitch? Many
times, it's the pitcher who misses the called location when a pitch
gets crushed. As for why the Yanks traded Sori, it had more to do
with what they were getting back than Sori's shortcomings (sure he was
impatient and a butcher defensively, but as he was a second baseman
with a big bat they could live with it)

http://www.inside-edge.com/teams/allstars_nl07/reports/h98.htm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:51 pm
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In article <1184280113.648398.144440 DeleteThis @k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Thompson '08 <oneilsprostate DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:

> On Jul 12, 5:33 pm, Captain_N... DeleteThis @example.com wrote:
> > Hi All --
> >
> > Did anyone else wonder why Jorge didn't set Alfonso up low and outside?
> >
>
> Because all Posuka is good for is playing catch with the pitcher and a
> bit of hitting.
>

Well - that was certainly lucid.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:09 pm
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<Captain_Nemo DeleteThis @example.com> wrote in message
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: In article <1184280113.648398.144440 DeleteThis @k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
: O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - Thompson '08 <oneilsprostate DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
:
: > On Jul 12, 5:33 pm, Captain_N... DeleteThis @example.com wrote:
: > > Hi All --
: > >
: > > Did anyone else wonder why Jorge didn't set Alfonso up low and
outside?
: > >
: >
: > Because all Posuka is good for is playing catch with the pitcher and a
: > bit of hitting.
: >
:
: Well - that was certainly lucid.
:
OFP has the brains of a cucumber.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:15 pm
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Captain_Nemo.RemoveThis@example.com wrote:
> Hi All --
>
> Did anyone else wonder why Jorge didn't set Alfonso up low and outside?
>
> Recalling the 2001 WS, I thought that consistent susceptibility was the
> reason the NYY traded him.
>
> ...best, Capt N.
>

Maybe it's a meaningless exhibition game.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:41 pm
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In article <CrWdnecX-8qbWQvbnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>,
Thermos <cfbltw.RemoveThis@adelphia.net> wrote:

> Captain_Nemo.RemoveThis@example.com wrote:
> > Hi All --
> >
> > Did anyone else wonder why Jorge didn't set Alfonso up low and outside?
> >
> > Recalling the 2001 WS, I thought that consistent susceptibility was the
> > reason the NYY traded him.
> >
> > ...best, Capt N.
> >
>
> Maybe it's a meaningless exhibition game.

Well, meaningless is in the eye of the beholder. It didn't look
meaningless to Putz and K-Rod, nor to Leyland and LaRussa.

Wasn't meaningless to me, either. I enjoy good baseball where ever I
can find it, and particularly where I can find it on HDTV. By
definition, there were 64 players there who can make the plays. The MLB
All-Star game, being an assemblage of guys who _all_ know _all_ the
plays, is always at a higher level than the pick up all-star games of
the NBA or the NFL.

One man's opinion.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:55 pm
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In article <1184285496.507299.304490.TakeThisOut@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
BadgerBC <neilrichardson3819.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 12, 4:51 pm, Captain_N....TakeThisOut@example.com wrote:
> > In article <1184280113.648398.144....TakeThisOut@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > Well - that was certainly lucid.
>
> Sorry about the twit. Perhaps Sori has adjusted since 2003 (that's
> the postseason you're recalling). This is the scouting report which
> is fairly reliable, and it appears he's not that bad on pitches low
> and outside, although he probably looks to pull most of the time. I
> didn't see the pitch but where did Jorge set before the pitch? Many
> times, it's the pitcher who misses the called location when a pitch
> gets crushed. As for why the Yanks traded Sori, it had more to do
> with what they were getting back than Sori's shortcomings (sure he was
> impatient and a butcher defensively, but as he was a second baseman
> with a big bat they could live with it)
>
> http://www.inside-edge.com/teams/allstars_nl07/reports/h98.htm
>

Hi Neil -

Don't apologize for the twit. On my regular computer he's filtered away.

You're right--2003. Put it low and away, and Sori was a strike out.
Painful, but Sori was very sorry Wink and it happened enough to count
on. I think (only remember what Jorge didn't do) that Jorge was actually
very unimaginative and didn't set up much at all. He did much more so
after that, as K-Rod walked 'em full.

My impression was that they traded Sori in pique over it. What'd the
Yanks get back--I don't recall?

One tickle was watching Posada catch Pablebon.

Thanks for the URL. I'll look it up.

....best, Capt N.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:29 pm
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> My impression was that they traded Sori in pique over it. What'd the
> Yanks get back--I don't recall?

Some guy named Alex Rodriguez Smile
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:05 pm
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On Jul 13, 11:31 pm, DC <c... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thermos wrote:
> > Great. Then why didn't he set up outside in such an important game? I also
> > enjoy good baseball wherever I can find it, which is why I didn't watch the
> > MLB All-Hype game and instead watched a local HS game in town. Three
> > guesses which of us saw the better game.
>
> Last year's was pretty exciting.

To me, the only thing that is interesting right now about the All-Star
Game is the AL's winning streak - not that the streak itself means
much of anything, but it's always fun to see how long any team can
keep a streak going.

When I was a kid in the 80s, the All-Star Game as an EVENT. I think
the main reason why it's lost that status is because of the Internet,
ESPN, etc. We now see these players everyday in some way, shape, or
form. We don't have to wait until the Sunday paper to see a list of
everyone's statistics, and we don't have to wait until an All-Star
Game to watch Jake Peavy pitch, or see a Russell Martin for the first
time.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:26 pm
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<Captain_Nemo DeleteThis @example.com> wrote in message
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> In article <CrWdnecX-8qbWQvbnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d DeleteThis @comcast.com>,
> Thermos <cfbltw DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> Captain_Nemo DeleteThis @example.com wrote:
>> > Hi All --
>> >
>> > Did anyone else wonder why Jorge didn't set Alfonso up low and outside?
>> >
>> > Recalling the 2001 WS, I thought that consistent susceptibility was the
>> > reason the NYY traded him.
>> >
>> > ...best, Capt N.
>> >
>>
>> Maybe it's a meaningless exhibition game.
>
> Well, meaningless is in the eye of the beholder. It didn't look
> meaningless to Putz and K-Rod, nor to Leyland and LaRussa.
>
> Wasn't meaningless to me, either. I enjoy good baseball where ever I
> can find it, and particularly where I can find it on HDTV. By
> definition, there were 64 players there who can make the plays. The MLB
> All-Star game, being an assemblage of guys who _all_ know _all_ the
> plays, is always at a higher level than the pick up all-star games of
> the NBA or the NFL.
>
> One man's opinion.
>

Great. Then why didn't he set up outside in such an important game? I also
enjoy good baseball wherever I can find it, which is why I didn't watch the
MLB All-Hype game and instead watched a local HS game in town. Three
guesses which of us saw the better game.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:31 pm
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Thermos wrote:

> Great. Then why didn't he set up outside in such an important game? I also
> enjoy good baseball wherever I can find it, which is why I didn't watch the
> MLB All-Hype game and instead watched a local HS game in town. Three
> guesses which of us saw the better game.


Last year's was pretty exciting.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:56 am
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Thermos <cfbltw.TakeThisOut@adelphia.net> wrote:

> Three guesses which of us saw the better game

I suspect we saw far more of the marvels of modern chemistry than you
did. I hope to hell.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:32 am
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In article <1184383789.865390.283770.TakeThisOut@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Tom K <mryclept.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> > My impression was that they traded Sori in pique over it. What'd the
> > Yanks get back--I don't recall?
>
> Some guy named Alex Rodriguez Smile
>
>
>

OMG as the kids say. I truly did forget that Soriano went to the
Rangers.

....best, Capt N.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:46 am
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In article <g8ydnaoG4ZfEqQXbnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
"Thermos" <cfbltw.TakeThisOut@adelphia.net> wrote:

> Great. Then why didn't he set up outside in such an important game? I also
> enjoy good baseball wherever I can find it, which is why I didn't watch the
> MLB All-Hype game and instead watched a local HS game in town. Three
> guesses which of us saw the better game.
>
>

That was my question: Why didn't he set up outside and away? My
supposed answer, because I completely forgot he'd gone to the Rangers in
a minor trade, was that he'd never caught with Soriano batting before.
Now known to be most probably not true.

My three guesses: 1. me 2. me 3. me

Next question: What high school is playing ball after the 4th of July?

Now, if you'd said you'd gone to a NECBL or Cape Cod league game, you'd
have me agreeing. Nine innings, 2 1/2 hours usual. No commercials.

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