Omar Infante

In article <28mdnf4VTMLlBwnbnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d.DeleteThis@comcast.com>, Bill Kawalec says...
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>> Not only that, but when you talk about trades? Who would Cincy want
>> for Jr.? I'm sure it's more than the Tigers are willing to give up.
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>btw, his trade value is diminsihed by the fact that it's suspected that the
>Reds don't intend to re-sign him, plus the fact that he can veto a trade.
>Often, given those circumstances, the team will take a 'something is better
>than nothing' approach. Personally, I'll take the known quantity over
>waiting for "the next superstar" any day.

Known Quantity = another Injury prone, contract stifling waste of
money in the Bobby Higginson tradition. I'll wait for our "next
superstar" centerfielder who is already in the system.

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> In article <28mdnf4VTMLlBwnbnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d.DeleteThis@comcast.com>, Bill Kawalec
> says...
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>>"Brian Matthews" <noonecares.DeleteThis@ddd.com> wrote in message
>>news:4qq89353dmocg6ss03srdlukg984j4avjs@4ax.com...
>>> Not only that, but when you talk about trades? Who would Cincy want
>>> for Jr.? I'm sure it's more than the Tigers are willing to give up.
>>
>>
>>btw, his trade value is diminsihed by the fact that it's suspected that
>>the
>>Reds don't intend to re-sign him, plus the fact that he can veto a trade.
>>Often, given those circumstances, the team will take a 'something is
>>better
>>than nothing' approach. Personally, I'll take the known quantity over
>>waiting for "the next superstar" any day.
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> Known Quantity = another Injury prone, contract stifling waste of
> money in the Bobby Higginson tradition. I'll wait for our "next
> superstar" centerfielder who is already in the system.



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> On 11 Jul 2007 07:26:45 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member.DeleteThis@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
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>>In article <28mdnf4VTMLlBwnbnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d.DeleteThis@comcast.com>, Bill Kawalec
>>says...
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>>>"Brian Matthews" <noonecares.DeleteThis@ddd.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4qq89353dmocg6ss03srdlukg984j4avjs@4ax.com...
>>>> Not only that, but when you talk about trades? Who would Cincy want
>>>> for Jr.? I'm sure it's more than the Tigers are willing to give up.
>>>
>>>
>>>btw, his trade value is diminsihed by the fact that it's suspected that
>>>the
>>>Reds don't intend to re-sign him, plus the fact that he can veto a trade.
>>>Often, given those circumstances, the team will take a 'something is
>>>better
>>>than nothing' approach. Personally, I'll take the known quantity over
>>>waiting for "the next superstar" any day.
>>
>>Known Quantity = another Injury prone, contract stifling waste of
>>money in the Bobby Higginson tradition. I'll wait for our "next
>>superstar" centerfielder who is already in the system.
>>
>>Dave
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> I agree. Sell out the future just because Griffey finally played half
> a season without going on the DL? I don't think so and I'm glad DD is
> smarter than this.
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hey, Einstein! Higginson is NOT a Hall of Fame ballplayer...




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"Brian Matthews" <noonecares.TakeThisOut@ddd.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:18:07 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
> <billkawalec.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>noooooooooo. You ain't gonna have an ounce of credibility implying that
>>Griffey is a defensive liability. DO also note that I said Granderson
>>moves
>>to left "at least for the remainder of this season." Beyond that, where
>>Griffey would play would be part of any contract negotiations they might
>>engage in. BUT, be realistic. Compare Griffey's number's to Monroes. It is
>>a
>>BIG step up, and worth looking into IF he is, indeed, available.
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>>> Not only that, but when you talk about trades? Who would Cincy want
>>> for Jr.? I'm sure it's more than the Tigers are willing to give up.
>>
>>no way can you be "sure" of that.
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> Yes, I could be sure of that. The Reds are not going to be giving Jr.
> away for mid level prospects. They would want blue chip prospects.
> Anyway, the Tigers won't be going after him, we have 2 major prospects
> coming up soon.
>
> As for Granderson over Griffey in CF? I would take the younger player
> anyday over a broken down has been. JMO.
>


well, again, calling Griffey "broken down" isn;t going to help your
credibility. Bottom line, however, is that only three guys have a say in
what deals the Tigers will make. I *suspect* they aren't going to stand pat,
like they did last year, but they ain't gonna mortgage the entirew future
either.
Griffey may be available for less than you think, for the reasons I
explained earlier. I'd explore the possibilities, but, as I said, I ain't
one of the three who has any influence...




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"Brian Matthews" <noonecares.DeleteThis@ddd.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:52:41 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
> <billkawalec.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>well, again, calling Griffey "broken down" isn;t going to help your
>>credibility
>
> Since 2001?
>
> 2001, 111 games played
> 2002, 70 games played
> 2003, 53 games played
> 2004, 83 games played
> 2005, 128 games played
> 2006, 108 games played
>
> Totals? 553 games played out of a possible 972 games.
> Average? 92 games played per year.
>
> I would consider those numbers as an injury prone, older player.
> Don't get me wrong, if we could get him for next to nothing and IF he
> would play LF, I would do it. But I wouldn't trade a single blue chip
> prospect for him. Just a matter of opinion, I suppose. Tigers needs
> aren't an older outfielder, even if he is a hall of famer to be. The
> left hand bat would be nice, but I would rather have a slugging LH 1st
> baseman. And there is the matter of the bullpen. The Tigers are
> already the highest scoring team in baseball. Pitching would be a
> priority, if it were up to me. But again, it's just my opinion.



yeah, I already grasp the concept. Any player on any other team, for you,
the glass will always be half empty. Griffey is 37, and doing fine. Perhaps
he's past being "injury prone" (I prefer to see it as rotten luck). He AIN'T
Higginson.
Paul Molitor hit .341, with 113 RBI at age 40...

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"Brian Matthews" <noonecares.TakeThisOut@ddd.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:52:41 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
> <billkawalec.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>well, again, calling Griffey "broken down" isn;t going to help your
>>credibility
>
> Since 2001?
>
> 2001, 111 games played
> 2002, 70 games played
> 2003, 53 games played
> 2004, 83 games played
> 2005, 128 games played
> 2006, 108 games played
>
> Totals? 553 games played out of a possible 972 games.
> Average? 92 games played per year.
>
> I would consider those numbers as an injury prone, older player.
> Don't get me wrong, if we could get him for next to nothing and IF he
> would play LF, I would do it. But I wouldn't trade a single blue chip
> prospect for him. Just a matter of opinion, I suppose. Tigers needs
> aren't an older outfielder, even if he is a hall of famer to be. The
> left hand bat would be nice, but I would rather have a slugging LH 1st
> baseman. And there is the matter of the bullpen. The Tigers are
> already the highest scoring team in baseball. Pitching would be a
> priority, if it were up to me. But again, it's just my opinion.
>
> Brian

Hold on. I have to go make popcorn.
Another great BK & BM matchup!
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> he's past being "injury prone" (I prefer to see it as rotten luck). He
> AIN'T
> Higginson.


Higgy and Griffey were both steroid freaks.
Denial ain't only a river in New Jersey.


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In article <G9-dnao3gYKXiQjbnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d DeleteThis @giganews.com>,
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> "Brian Matthews" <noonecares DeleteThis @ddd.com> wrote in message
> news:293a939k24vpk49jorcu69ofemvfd2uin8@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:52:41 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
> > <billkawalec DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>well, again, calling Griffey "broken down" isn;t going to help your
> >>credibility
> >
> > Since 2001?
> >
> > 2001, 111 games played
> > 2002, 70 games played
> > 2003, 53 games played
> > 2004, 83 games played
> > 2005, 128 games played
> > 2006, 108 games played
> >
> > Totals? 553 games played out of a possible 972 games.
> > Average? 92 games played per year.
> >
> > I would consider those numbers as an injury prone, older player.
> > Don't get me wrong, if we could get him for next to nothing and IF he
> > would play LF, I would do it. But I wouldn't trade a single blue chip
> > prospect for him. Just a matter of opinion, I suppose. Tigers needs
> > aren't an older outfielder, even if he is a hall of famer to be. The
> > left hand bat would be nice, but I would rather have a slugging LH 1st
> > baseman. And there is the matter of the bullpen. The Tigers are
> > already the highest scoring team in baseball. Pitching would be a
> > priority, if it were up to me. But again, it's just my opinion.
> >
> > Brian
>
> Hold on. I have to go make popcorn.
> Another great BK & BM matchup!


this might be the only time I laugh out loud today

thank you

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In article <-ZidnQqQwo6RlgjbnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d DeleteThis @comcast.com>, Bill Kawalec says...
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>"Brian Matthews" <noonecares DeleteThis @ddd.com> wrote in message
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>> On 11 Jul 2007 07:26:45 -0700, snapp44 <snapp44_member DeleteThis @newsguy.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>In article <28mdnf4VTMLlBwnbnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d DeleteThis @comcast.com>, Bill Kawalec
>>>says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Brian Matthews" <noonecares DeleteThis @ddd.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:4qq89353dmocg6ss03srdlukg984j4avjs@4ax.com...
>>>>> Not only that, but when you talk about trades? Who would Cincy want
>>>>> for Jr.? I'm sure it's more than the Tigers are willing to give up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>btw, his trade value is diminsihed by the fact that it's suspected that
>>>>the
>>>>Reds don't intend to re-sign him, plus the fact that he can veto a trade.
>>>>Often, given those circumstances, the team will take a 'something is
>>>>better
>>>>than nothing' approach. Personally, I'll take the known quantity over
>>>>waiting for "the next superstar" any day.
>>>
>>>Known Quantity = another Injury prone, contract stifling waste of
>>>money in the Bobby Higginson tradition. I'll wait for our "next
>>>superstar" centerfielder who is already in the system.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>
>> I agree. Sell out the future just because Griffey finally played half
>> a season without going on the DL? I don't think so and I'm glad DD is
>> smarter than this.
>>
>
>
>
>hey, Einstein! Higginson is NOT a Hall of Fame ballplayer...
>

So what. You wan't to pay Hall of Fame money to a player who, odds
favor is just one game away from another DL stint. Besides, He will
sign again with Seattle depriving You and the Tigers of a stupid
mistake.

Dave
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