Newbie Questions from England

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:27:31 -0500, James Withrow
<withrow.TakeThisOut@uchicago.edu> wrote:

>On 9/15/03 10:09 AM, in article bk4kmj$isa$1@peabody.colorado.edu, "Perry
>Sailor" <perry.sailor.TakeThisOut@colorado.edu> wrote:
>
>>> 5. and finally (honest) who shall I support!!!!!
>>
>> The St. Louis Cardinals. Okay, okay, that happens to be my team, so I'm
>> biased. There was a Brit who posted a lot here last season -- he decided to
>> adopt the Boston Red Sox, the Yankees' archrivals. Not a bad choice -- not
>> only do they hate the Yankees, they're also the closet team to the UK, with
>> the possible exception of Montreal! -- but be warned, they haven't won a
>> championship since 1918, and some say they're cursed!
>>
>
>Well, I think the uninitiated should pick the team most liked by someone you
>don't want to be competitive with. If your Dad likes the Astros, then pick
>the Astros. Ditto your significant other. Especially your significant
>other. If your team loses, it's better to be around someone who also needs
>some consoling. If you root for different teams, there will be a high
>percentage of the time the two of you are in different moods.

When I picked my favourite NHL team as a boy, my father was a Chicago
fan, and there was a guy from here, Al MacNeil (later the coach of a
Stanley Cup Champion Canadiens team) on that team. The Red Wings had a
guy from here, Parker MacDonald, who played on the same line with Howe
and Delvecchio, and was in high school with my mother. My reasoning at
the time was that someone from the same family had to root for them,
for balance.

Parker MacDonald's nephew now cuts my son's hair...can you believe it?

>
>On the other hand, if we're talking siblings here-- and you like nothing
>better than to gloat over your brother's misfortunes-- pick your brothers'
>best rival.

My brother who is six years younger also is a RW fan, big time, and he
basically went that way because I was a RW fan. My other brother, 9
years my junior, is a Bruins fan (I think I was gone to university
when he made that choice). We should start telling him that he's
adopted , because nobody from here has ever played for the Bruins
(although I think Bronco Horvath did, and he worked at our local
university as their hockey coach...again, I think).

Note that we all root for original 6 teams. There were definitely only
6 choices for me (early 60's) but I don't remember what the situation
was for my younger brothers.

Tom
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Tom MacIntyre <tom__macintyre RemoveThis @hotmail.com> trolled:

> When I picked my favourite NHL team as a boy, my father was a Chicago
> fan, and there was a guy from here, Al MacNeil (later the coach of a
> Stanley Cup Champion Canadiens team) on that team. The Red Wings had a
> guy from here, Parker MacDonald, who played on the same line with Howe
> and Delvecchio, and was in high school with my mother. My reasoning at
> the time was that someone from the same family had to root for them,
> for balance.

So do you remember the final of 1960-61? Chicago/Detroit? That would
have been fun in your house. That's the first Cup we remember.

cordially, as always,

rm
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"Craig Richardson" <crichard-tacoma RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:13:23 -0400, Julie Carter <jsgoddess RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:27:31 -0500, James Withrow
> ><withrow RemoveThis @uchicago.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>You could also choose a team based on the franchise's style. I'd have
to
> >>know more about your values to recommend one, though. If I knew your
> >>Briggs-Meyer personality type, your favorite Beatle, and what your
favorite
> >>color is, then I could go from there.
> >
> >INTP, George, red
> >
> >What do I win?
>
> Three cheers from me for being the first other INTP I've seen, and one
> of the quiet, unassuming Midwestern teams, all of whom seem to wear at
> least some red. The LaRussa Cardinals would be a good fit, but he's
> too extroverted.

Cool. I'm an INTP George guy, and already a Cardinals fan, so the team
works for me, but Tony's gotta go. I can handle the extroversion, but not
the lineup selection.
Perry
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On 9/19/03 7:29 PM, in article qt6nmv40id5pkc4mk2v54q7q38674f7o0s DeleteThis @4ax.com,
"Craig Richardson" <crichard-tacoma DeleteThis @worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2003 08:12:40 -0500, Kristian M Zoerhoff
> <zoerhoff DeleteThis @btv.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> "JW" == James Withrow <withrow DeleteThis @uchicago.edu> writes:
>>
>> JW> though. If I knew your Briggs-Meyer personality type, your
>> JW> favorite Beatle, and what your favorite color is, then I could
>> JW> go from there.
>>
>> ISTJ, John, Blue. Team, please?
>
> Seattle Mariners. The whole front office is quiet and not effacing (I
> live here and I have trouble remembering the makeup of the ownership
> group). The GM is not noted as a deep thinker, and doesn't seem to
> have a long-term plan, preferring to evaluate each situation as it
> comes up. The manager is conservative and not often given to trying
> to overmanage. Their talent is undeniable, but they never seem to get
> the most out of it, and every season they die sooner than they should.
> They wear blue.

I agree with Craig on this one. The two other teams that are close would be
the Cubs and Brewers. But, the Cubs are slightly more of an extroverted
team now with Dusty and Sam-me. The Brewers fit everything else, but the
John Lennon thing just doesn't work. I think you'd have to be a Ringo fan
to follow the Brewers these days.

Withrow
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On 9/19/03 7:29 PM, in article nl7nmvkub1rba5mfgiiuqucfb30h28qunl RemoveThis @4ax.com,
"Craig Richardson" <crichard-tacoma RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:13:23 -0400, Julie Carter <jsgoddess RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:27:31 -0500, James Withrow
>> <withrow RemoveThis @uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> You could also choose a team based on the franchise's style. I'd have to
>>> know more about your values to recommend one, though. If I knew your
>>> Briggs-Meyer personality type, your favorite Beatle, and what your favorite
>>> color is, then I could go from there.
>>
>> INTP, George, red
>>
>> What do I win?
>
> Three cheers from me for being the first other INTP I've seen, and one
> of the quiet, unassuming Midwestern teams, all of whom seem to wear at
> least some red. The LaRussa Cardinals would be a good fit, but he's
> too extroverted. I'll say Cincinnati, but you can have Cleveland if
> you want (like that's even in question).
>

I'm also an INTP and I've had a very happy baseball life following the
Cardinals. Except for this year, of course, when they choked, choked,
choked.

I somewhat agree with Craig on the call. IMO, the Reds would be in the
running, although your Indians affiliation may prevent you from enjoying
them. During the Schott era, they were more of a TJ or FJ team, but now
they're far more unassuming and looking for steady improvement. ISTP would
work best with the Reds right now. Obviously, Red works with the Reds and
any of the Beatles except John.

The Cards work well with George or John, maybe Paul in a pinch. They're a
whiny bunch these days, though. And LaRussa seems more like an ESTJ to me.

Given that, I think the best team for Julie is--- the Indians. If she liked
McCartney, then I would have steered her toward the Angels.

Withrow
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:27:31 -0500, James Withrow
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>
>You could also choose a team based on the franchise's style. I'd have to
>know more about your values to recommend one, though. If I knew your
>Briggs-Meyer personality type, your favorite Beatle, and what your favorite
>color is, then I could go from there.
>

Based on my own perceptions, and not any test...

ESTP (E on the border, the others not), Paul, Red-Blue tie

I already have 3/5 letters from the Expos in ESTP, and red and blue
are Expo colours, I have my answer.

Tom
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:29:23 -0700, Craig Richardson
<crichard-tacoma.TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:13:23 -0400, Julie Carter <jsgoddess.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:27:31 -0500, James Withrow
>><withrow.TakeThisOut@uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>You could also choose a team based on the franchise's style. I'd have to
>>>know more about your values to recommend one, though. If I knew your
>>>Briggs-Meyer personality type, your favorite Beatle, and what your favorite
>>>color is, then I could go from there.
>>
>>INTP, George, red
>>
>>What do I win?
>
>Three cheers from me for being the first other INTP I've seen,

It's just that INTPs are lurkers.

>and one
>of the quiet, unassuming Midwestern teams, all of whom seem to wear at
>least some red. The LaRussa Cardinals would be a good fit, but he's
>too extroverted. I'll say Cincinnati, but you can have Cleveland if
>you want (like that's even in question).

So, it's like... destiny?

When people mock me for my team's losing ways, I can gaze upon them
pityingly and say, "You who mock fate are tempting the galactic
wedgie"?

Or something?

Neat!



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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 06:43:08 +0100, Keith Willoughby
<keith.RemoveThis@flat222.org> wrote:

>Craig Richardson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:13:23 -0400, Julie Carter <jsgoddess.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>INTP, George, red
>>>
>>>What do I win?
>>
>> Three cheers from me for being the first other INTP I've seen
>
>/me waves

We could form a small, exclusive club. Of course, being introverts,
none of us would join, but we could still form it!



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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:07:58 -0500, James Withrow
<withrow.RemoveThis@uchicago.edu> wrote:

>Given that, I think the best team for Julie is--- the Indians. If she liked
>McCartney, then I would have steered her toward the Angels.

If I'd liked McCartney, then I would have to defend Wings. And while
championing the underdog is rather a favorite pastime of mine, I can
only do so much.



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INTJ, George, Red

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On 9/23/03 5:49 PM, in article bkqilm$ktq$1@naig.caltech.edu, "Roger Moore"
<raj.TakeThisOut@alumnae.caltech.edu> wrote:

> INTJ, George, Red
>

I would have guessed you were ISTJ.

You're pretty close to Julie's INTP, George and Red. The Indians still work
pretty well for you, too. And if your fave Beatle were Paul, I'd be
suggesting the Angels, which would be convenient for you out in Pasadena.
INTJ and Red works pretty well these days with the Astros, too, but they're
not a George team at all.

I'd steer you towards the Red Sox.

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In article <bkqilm$ktq$1@naig.caltech.edu>,
raj.RemoveThis@alumnae.caltech.edu (Roger Moore) wrote:

>INTJ, George, Red

INTJ, Paul, Blue. What do I win?

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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:49:26 +0000 (UTC), raj.TakeThisOut@alumnae.caltech.edu
(Roger Moore) wrote:

>INTJ, George, Red

Oh, come on. You really want to be a P. Everybody wants to be a P!



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