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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:27 am
Post subject: Millar is Back
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:58 am
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as long as he picks up where he left off last season, then we could
really use his on base percentage. that's a pretty good deal regarding
the money/contract.
i'm impressed that we picked up RP/Closer Baez. that guy had three
great years as a closer - 41 saves with Tampa Bay? Tampa won 67 games
that year....
i'm not impressed with signing Jaret Wright. until Baltimore can land
an ace pitcher (can you say Barry Zito???) and a third starter (i like
having Erik Bedard as our second SP in the rotation), we will finish in
either third or fourth place again next year. as far as batting, we
have enough hot bats to keep us alive in our division. we just lack
strong pitching at the begining of each series. Rodrigo Lopez is good,
but not great. He should be used in either 4th or 5th in the rotation.
and its pretty obvious that we need to give up hope on Daniel Cabrera.
i would make an effort to go after Miguel Batista or Shawn Estes. i
wouldn't mind seeing Greg Maddux come to Baltimore to reunite with Leo
Mazzone. i'm sure we are way out of the running to sign Jason Schmidt.
On Dec 3, 7:27 am, "amdc93" <amsleepsi....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Last night Kevin Millar resigned with the O's for one year,
> $1.75million.
>
> http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2683975&campaign=rss&sour... |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:08 pm
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On Dec 4, 11:57 am, edel....RemoveThis@umbc.edu (Mitch Edelman) wrote:
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> I am not saying that Cabrera is the next Randy Johnson, far from it. But
> he has a lot of similarities...
yeah....they both have two arms and two legs.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:23 pm
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On Dec 4, 2:15 pm, "The Joe" <joegri....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well that is the first time I have ever heard anyone compare Cabrera to
> Randy Johnson. I've always heard he mimics a lot of Pedro's style. I
> guess when you are 6-7, it's easy to be compared to Randy Johnson. We
> can only hope he turns around. I've been an Oriole fan for a long time
> and I have already been over anxious about Cabrera going into this past
> 2006 season. You're probably right. It's wise to give him a few more
> years to see if he can ever gain control.
>
> Estes and Batista would each add veteran leadership on a young pitching
> staff. Neither one will win the Cy Young but they have solid numbers
> to make them a great 3 or 4th in the rotation. Plus, Batista is very
> familiar with the A.L. East since he used to close (31 saves) for a the
> Blue Jays (2005).
>
> Saying Maddux wants to go to a contender is quite a gamble. I'm sure
> the players that went to Detroit in the winter of 2005 had no idea they
> would be playing the World Series the following year. I can't imagine
> Dontrell Willis was thinking the same thing when Jack McKeon was called
> in to manage the Marlins. Maddux, if healthy, would be an ideal choice
> to have in our rotation. However, he tends to favor the National
> League.
>
> Angelos will always be the reason why Baltimore will struggle with
> baseball. How he could let Davey Johnson go after the 1997 season is
> beyond me. 1995 to 1997 was a very exciting time to be an Oriole fan.
> Ripken retires and Mussina becomes a traitor. Not much has really
> happened worth talking about.
>
> On Dec 4, 11:57 am, edel....RemoveThis@umbc.edu (Mitch Edelman) wrote:
> I comletly agree on Angelos. He does nothing at all. And I live in DC and he tries to ruin our TV. He does everything he can just to have some control. If he really wants control he should run for governor.
-Oh wait, he would ruin our lives even more!!
> > In article <1165247912.228658.240....RemoveThis@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
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> > The Joe <joegri....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >as long as he picks up where he left off last season, then we could
> > >really use his on base percentage. that's a pretty good deal regarding
> > >the money/contract.
>
> > >i'm impressed that we picked up RP/Closer Baez. that guy had three
> > >great years as a closer - 41 saves with Tampa Bay? Tampa won 67 games
> > >that year....
>
> > >i'm not impressed with signing Jaret Wright. until Baltimore can land
> > >an ace pitcher (can you say Barry Zito???) and a third starter (i like
> > >having Erik Bedard as our second SP in the rotation), we will finish in
> > >either third or fourth place again next year. as far as batting, we
> > >have enough hot bats to keep us alive in our division. we just lack
> > >strong pitching at the begining of each series. Rodrigo Lopez is good,
> > >but not great. He should be used in either 4th or 5th in the rotation.
> > > and its pretty obvious that we need to give up hope on Daniel Cabrera.Cabrera is still young enough that you don't really want to quit on him;
> > there was this other guy, Johnson, I think, who started out in Montreal and
> > got traded early in his career to Seattle, where it took him about 4 years
> > (1989-1993) before he had a really great year. And he was as wild as
> > they came until then.
>
> > I am not saying that Cabrera is the next Randy Johnson, far from it. But
> > he has a lot of similarities... maybe having the same pitching coach for
> > 2 or 3 consecutive years would do him some good...
>
> > >i would make an effort to go after Miguel Batista or Shawn Estes. i
> > >wouldn't mind seeing Greg Maddux come to Baltimore to reunite with Leo
> > >Mazzone. i'm sure we are way out of the running to sign Jason Schmidt.I would not particularly care for either Batista or Estes.
>
> > At this point in his career, Maddux is probably interested in being on
> > a team with a legit shot at the world series. Ditto for Schmidt. saying
> > "we expect to be competitive for the playoffs in 2008 or 2009" is not
> > usually the way to snag a guy who wants to win now. These guys are going
> > to get their millions anyway, so there needs to be something more to
> > attract a player - like a good team, perhaps a good environment or a
> > close friend on the roster(as with Clemens and Petitte in Houston).
> > What has Baltimore got to recommend it - stability? How many managers
> > and pitching coaches has the team had in the last 5 years? -great players
> > to team with? Whatever else you may say about Ripken, when Roberto
> > Alomar, then the best second baseman in the game, signed with the O's,
> > it was to play alongside Rip. Who's this team's magnet - Tejada?
> > Charm City? Well, I like it here, but somehow Balto's cachet is not
> > quite the same as LA's, or San Francisco's, or New York's.
>
> > The only way I can see out of this is to build a stable organization
> > with a reputation for being committed to winning and for being
> > a "player's place". Maybe that won't happen with Angelos running the
> > show - or maybe until he distances himself from baseball decisions.
> > Who knows???
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Mitch Edelman
>
> > >On Dec 3, 7:27 am, "amdc93" <amsleepsi....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Last night Kevin Millar resigned with the O's for one year,
> > >> $1.75million.
>
> > >>http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2683975&campaign=rss&sour... >> Stay informed about: Millar is Back |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:41 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:55 am
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i think you took my words to be way too specific.
Davey did quit - but the point I was making is it was because of
Angelos. Angelos allowed the situation to get ugly and henceforth, he
allowed Davey to leave because he put him in a corner he wasn't
comfortable being in.
Angelos should have recognized the engery and strategy that Davey
Johnson provided to the Orioles with his managing style. It's obvious
since the Orioles haven't had a winning season since.
nobody DeleteThis @junk.min.net wrote:
> In <1165259749.700116.99700 DeleteThis @80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>, on 12/04/06
> at 11:15 AM, "The Joe" <joegrimes DeleteThis @gmail.com> said:
>
>
> >Angelos will always be the reason why Baltimore will struggle with
> >baseball. How he could let Davey Johnson go after the 1997 season is
> >beyond me. 1995 to 1997 was a very exciting time to be an Oriole fan.
> >Ripken retires and Mussina becomes a traitor. Not much has really
> >happened worth talking about.
>
> He didn't let Davey go - Davey quit. He had a year left on his contract,
> asked for an extension, Angelos said no, and Davey said sayonara. Now, an
> extension at that time might have been a good idea, but it didn't have to
> come then, and, had Davey stayed and managed the team into contention in
> 1998, public pressure to extend his contract would have been tremendous.
> Instead, he walked away from the team.
>
>
> Alan
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