Who is this A. Jones guy?

bgs wrote:
> And what did he do with old A. Jones?

Some things are best left unquestioned. Just bask in the glow of
suddenly realized potential!
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Tarkus wrote:
> On 7/24/2005 3:18:10 PM, bgs wrote:
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>>And what did he do with old A. Jones?
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> All hail Terry Pendleton!

As much as I'm liking Andruw's continued success, do you think he could
rub off a little on the rest of the team? A little offense from the
other 8 guys probably couldn't hurt...

Jon
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Jon Richardson wrote:
> Tarkus wrote:
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>> On 7/24/2005 3:18:10 PM, bgs wrote:
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>>> And what did he do with old A. Jones?
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>> All hail Terry Pendleton!
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> As much as I'm liking Andruw's continued success, do you think he could
> rub off a little on the rest of the team? A little offense from the
> other 8 guys probably couldn't hurt...

Or even if it did hurt. If Furcal could work in a few more HBPs, Andruw
might not have 17 solo homers.
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bgs wrote:
> And what did he do with old A. Jones?

Its the steriods.
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"Justin" <justin DeleteThis @screven.net> wrote in message
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: bgs wrote:
: > And what did he do with old A. Jones?
:
: Its the steriods.
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Who are you new comer?
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bgs <bgs DeleteThis @mindless.com> wrote:
> And what did he do with old A. Jones?

He turned a bunch of doubles into homers.

Here's an interesting comparison.
AB BB 2B HR XBH AVG OBP SLG OPS
2003 595 53 28 36 64 277 338 513 851
2005 (projected) 594 66 28 52 80 278 360 601 961

"difference" -1 13 0 16 16 1 22 88 110

Does anyone seriously believe that Andruw acquired a magical ability to
hit homers without an ability to hit doubles? As much as that would be
great, I think it's highly unlikely.

By way of comparison, right now Andruw is on pace to hit 65% of his
extra base hits for home runs. His career rate is 48%). In 2004, 60% of
Barry Bonds' extra base hits were homers; in 2003, it was 66%. Only Marc
McGwire has consistently posted such a high homer/double ratio. Jason
Giambi has done it in a couple of years, as has A-Rod.

I would say that Andruw's power increase this year represents a
legitimate improvement; he's never hit more than 72 XBH in a year, and
that was when he was getting 650 at bats. But the improvement isn't as
big as his recent homer spree would make it seem. His walk rate seems to
be more or less in line with his career rate. His PECOTA will almost
certainly project a line in between 2003 and 2005, probably something
like 275/350/550.

I'll take what I can get though. Gift horses, mouths, that sort of
thing.

Cheers,
Nick
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"Nick Beaudrot" <niq.TakeThisOut@techhouse.org> wrote in message
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: bgs <bgs.TakeThisOut@mindless.com> wrote:
: > And what did he do with old A. Jones?
:
: He turned a bunch of doubles into homers.
:
: Here's an interesting comparison.
: AB BB 2B HR XBH AVG OBP SLG OPS
: 2003 595 53 28 36 64 277 338 513 851
: 2005 (projected) 594 66 28 52 80 278 360 601 961
:
: "difference" -1 13 0 16 16 1 22 88 110
:
: Does anyone seriously believe that Andruw acquired a magical ability to
: hit homers without an ability to hit doubles? As much as that would be
: great, I think it's highly unlikely.

Those numbers seem to suggest it's true nonetheless.

: By way of comparison, right now Andruw is on pace to hit 65% of his
: extra base hits for home runs. His career rate is 48%). In 2004, 60% of
: Barry Bonds' extra base hits were homers; in 2003, it was 66%. Only Marc
: McGwire has consistently posted such a high homer/double ratio. Jason
: Giambi has done it in a couple of years, as has A-Rod.

Ahoh... let's not anyone say the "S" word.


: I would say that Andruw's power increase this year represents a
: legitimate improvement; he's never hit more than 72 XBH in a year, and
: that was when he was getting 650 at bats. But the improvement isn't as
: big as his recent homer spree would make it seem. His walk rate seems to
: be more or less in line with his career rate. His PECOTA will almost
: certainly project a line in between 2003 and 2005, probably something
: like 275/350/550.

I still believe in the power of Smoltzie the Bat Whisperer

:
: I'll take what I can get though. Gift horses, mouths, that sort of
: thing.

Amen to that! I just hope we'll get some more of those horses.

:
: Cheers,
: Nick

Cheers right back atcha, Nick

--Scott
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bgs <bgs.DeleteThis@mindless.com> wrote:
> "Nick Beaudrot" <niq.DeleteThis@techhouse.org> wrote in message
> : By way of comparison, right now Andruw is on pace to hit 65% of his
> : extra base hits for home runs. His career rate is 48%). In 2004, 60% of
> : Barry Bonds' extra base hits were homers; in 2003, it was 66%. Only Marc
> : McGwire has consistently posted such a high homer/double ratio. Jason
> : Giambi has done it in a couple of years, as has A-Rod.

> Ahoh... let's not anyone say the "S" word.

"slump"?

Cheers,
Nick
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"Nick Beaudrot" <niq.DeleteThis@techhouse.org> wrote in message
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: bgs <bgs.DeleteThis@mindless.com> wrote:
: > "Nick Beaudrot" <niq.DeleteThis@techhouse.org> wrote in message
: > : By way of comparison, right now Andruw is on pace to hit 65% of his
: > : extra base hits for home runs. His career rate is 48%). In 2004, 60%
of
: > : Barry Bonds' extra base hits were homers; in 2003, it was 66%. Only
Marc
: > : McGwire has consistently posted such a high homer/double ratio. Jason
: > : Giambi has done it in a couple of years, as has A-Rod.
:
: > Ahoh... let's not anyone say the "S" word.
:
: "slump"?
:
: Cheers,
: Nick

Oh my gosh... yes, let's not use that word instead. Good catch!

--Scott
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"Nick Beaudrot" <niq RemoveThis @techhouse.org> wrote
>> And what did he do with old A. Jones?
>
> He turned a bunch of doubles into homers.
>
> Here's an interesting comparison.
> AB BB 2B HR XBH AVG OBP SLG OPS
> 2003 595 53 28 36 64 277 338 513 851
> 2005 (projected) 594 66 28 52 80 278 360 601 961
>
> "difference" -1 13 0 16 16 1 22 88 11

> Does anyone seriously believe that Andruw acquired a magical ability to
> hit homers without an ability to hit doubles? As much as that would be
> great, I think it's highly unlikely.

I just looked over Andruw's split stats for the last three or four years.
One thing I noticed is that during his "good Andruw" months he's had about
every year, he's had stretches where he'd be on a 40+ HR pace over a year,
but never with all that high of a doubles pace - usually no more than a pace
of about 36 for a year. So when he's had performance increases in the past,
they've usually affected HR power more than 2B power

One other thing to factor in is that AJ has had a real bipolar season - he
was hitting 234/308/394 on May 3, and has hit approximately 297/371/685
since, with 15 doubles, 2 triples and 29 HR in a 273 AB/305 PA span. If you
prorate that period to 595 AB you get 33 doubles, 4 triples and 63 HR. Egad!
So this reflects your initial point, that AJ has seen a huge increase in HR
power, with not too much of an increase in 2B/3B power

I won't reflect too much on the cause. Andruw's always been a streaky
player, and this season may just represent a longer hot streak than normal.
He's shown hot stretches before - never quite this hot, but in the direction
of it - so he's not necessarily doing anything too new, except for actually
keeping it going.

Colin
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Colin William wrote:
> I won't reflect too much on the cause. Andruw's always been a streaky
> player, and this season may just represent a longer hot streak than
> normal. He's shown hot stretches before - never quite this hot, but
> in the direction of it - so he's not necessarily doing anything too
> new, except for actually keeping it going.

I hear he's got a new stance. Pass it on.
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"Alan Honeycutt" <Arch.Nemesis.Hostel.1.3.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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: Colin William wrote:
: > I won't reflect too much on the cause. Andruw's always been a streaky
: > player, and this season may just represent a longer hot streak than
: > normal. He's shown hot stretches before - never quite this hot, but
: > in the direction of it - so he's not necessarily doing anything too
: > new, except for actually keeping it going.
:
: I hear he's got a new stance. Pass it on.
:

I heard that too, but I can't (cough) remember where. But, as I watched him
in the outfield last night, it looked like the same old same old. <shrug>


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