Joe McCarthy All Star Team

Gerry Myerson venit, vidit, et dixit:
> Mark_Reichert.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:

>> I was reading Bill James' book on managers and he describes how strong
>> a Joe McCarthy All Star Team is pulled from the best seasons of the
>> best players of his Cubs, Yankees and Red Sox teams. James gives his
>> own main lineup, starters, closer team, but I decided to do a total
>> roster version.

> Cool. Now do the same thing for Connie Mack, John McGraw and a few
> others & then someone can simulate a league with those teams
> playing each other.

There's plenty of room to quibble over these selections. (I could
easily have picked, say, Roger Clemens's best season with the Yankees
over John Tudor's, for instance, and probably should have -- showing my
bias, I'm sure), but this is probably about as good a team as any, all
in all.

The Joe Torre All-Stars...

MGR Joe Torre
C Jorge Posada 2003 NYY 142 GP, .405 OBP, .518 SLG, 146 OPS+
1B Tino Martinez 1997 NYY 158 GP, .371 OBP, .577 SLG, 144 OPS+
2B Alfonso Soriano 2002 NYY 156 GP, .332 OBP, .547 SLG, 131 OPS+
SS Derek Jeter 1999 NYY 158 GP, .438 OBP, .552 SLG, 161 OPS+
3B Bob Horner 1982 ATL 140 GP, .350 OBP, .501 SLG, 132 OPS+
LF Hideki Matsui 2004 NYY 162 GP, .390 OBP, .522 SLG, 139 OPS+
CF Bernie Williams 1999 NYY 158 GP, .435 OBP, .536 SLG, 157 OPS+
RF Gary Sheffield 2004 NYY 154 GP, .393 OBP, .534 SLG, 143 OPS+
DH Jason Giambi 2002 NYY 155 GP, .435 OBP, .598 SLG, 174 OPS+

C John Stearns 1978 NYM 143 GP, .364 OBP, .413 SLG, 121 OPS+
1B Gregg Jefferies 1993 STL 142 GP, .408 OBP, .485 SLG, 141 OPS+
UT Ozzie Smith 1991 STL 150 GP, .380 OBP, .367 SLG, 111 OPS+
OF Dale Murphy 1983 ATL 162 GP, .393 OBP, .540 SLG, 150 OPS+

SP Craig Swan 1978 NYM 207 IP, 144 ERA+
SP John Tudor 1990 STL 146 IP, 160 ERA+
SP Mike Mussina 2001 NYY 228 IP, 142 ERA+
SP Bob Tewkesbury 1992 STL 233 IP, 157 ERA+
SP Andy Pettitte 1997 NYY 240 IP, 154 ERA+

RP Gene Garber 1982 ATL 119 IP, 161 ERA+
RP Steve Bedrosian 1982 ATL 137 IP, 155 ERA+
RP Mariano Rivera 1996 NYY 107 IP, 242 ERA+
RP Terry Forster 1983 ATL 79 IP, 181 ERA+
RP Tom Henke 1995 STL 54 IP, 232 ERA+
RP Tony Fossas 1995 STL 36 IP, 287 ERA+

Catch you later.
--Robert Machemer

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Bob-Nob venit, vidit, et dixit:
> Gerry Myerson venit, vidit, et dixit:
>> Mark_Reichert.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:

>>> I was reading Bill James' book on managers and he describes how strong
>>> a Joe McCarthy All Star Team is pulled from the best seasons of the
>>> best players of his Cubs, Yankees and Red Sox teams. James gives his
>>> own main lineup, starters, closer team, but I decided to do a total
>>> roster version.

>> Cool. Now do the same thing for Connie Mack, John McGraw and a few
>> others & then someone can simulate a league with those teams
>> playing each other.

> There's plenty of room to quibble over these selections. (I could
> easily have picked, say, Roger Clemens's best season with the Yankees
> over John Tudor's, for instance, and probably should have -- showing my
> bias, I'm sure), but this is probably about as good a team as any, all
> in all.

> The Joe Torre All-Stars...

> MGR Joe Torre
> C Jorge Posada 2003 NYY 142 GP, .405 OBP, .518 SLG, 146 OPS+
> 1B Tino Martinez 1997 NYY 158 GP, .371 OBP, .577 SLG, 144 OPS+
> 2B Alfonso Soriano 2002 NYY 156 GP, .332 OBP, .547 SLG, 131 OPS+
> SS Derek Jeter 1999 NYY 158 GP, .438 OBP, .552 SLG, 161 OPS+
> 3B Bob Horner 1982 ATL 140 GP, .350 OBP, .501 SLG, 132 OPS+
> LF Hideki Matsui 2004 NYY 162 GP, .390 OBP, .522 SLG, 139 OPS+
> CF Bernie Williams 1999 NYY 158 GP, .435 OBP, .536 SLG, 157 OPS+
> RF Gary Sheffield 2004 NYY 154 GP, .393 OBP, .534 SLG, 143 OPS+
> DH Jason Giambi 2002 NYY 155 GP, .435 OBP, .598 SLG, 174 OPS+

> C John Stearns 1978 NYM 143 GP, .364 OBP, .413 SLG, 121 OPS+
> 1B Gregg Jefferies 1993 STL 142 GP, .408 OBP, .485 SLG, 141 OPS+
> UT Ozzie Smith 1991 STL 150 GP, .380 OBP, .367 SLG, 111 OPS+
> OF Dale Murphy 1983 ATL 162 GP, .393 OBP, .540 SLG, 150 OPS+

> SP Craig Swan 1978 NYM 207 IP, 144 ERA+
> SP John Tudor 1990 STL 146 IP, 160 ERA+
> SP Mike Mussina 2001 NYY 228 IP, 142 ERA+
> SP Bob Tewkesbury 1992 STL 233 IP, 157 ERA+
> SP Andy Pettitte 1997 NYY 240 IP, 154 ERA+

> RP Gene Garber 1982 ATL 119 IP, 161 ERA+
> RP Steve Bedrosian 1982 ATL 137 IP, 155 ERA+
> RP Mariano Rivera 1996 NYY 107 IP, 242 ERA+
> RP Terry Forster 1983 ATL 79 IP, 181 ERA+
> RP Tom Henke 1995 STL 54 IP, 232 ERA+
> RP Tony Fossas 1995 STL 36 IP, 287 ERA+

Off-hand, even though he didn't manage as long, I'd guess a Ralph
Houk team could do just as well as a Joe Torre team. Let's see...

MGR Ralph Houk
C Elston Howard 1961 NYY 129 GP, .387 OBP, .549 SLG, 153 OPS+
1B Bill Freehan 1974 DET 130 GP, .361 OBP, .479 SLG, 137 OPS+
2B Marty Barrett 1984 BOS 139 GP, .358 OBP, .383 SLG, 102 OPS+
SS Tom Tresh 1962 NYY 157 GP, .359 OBP, .441 SLG, 117 OPS+
3B Wade Boggs 1983 BOS 153 GP, .444 OBP, .486 SLG, 150 OPS+
LF Jim Rice 1983 BOS 155 GP, .361 OBP, .550 SLG, 141 OPS+
CF Mickey Mantle 1961 NYY 153 GP, .448 OBP, .687 SLG, 206 OPS+
RF Roger Maris 1961 NYY 161 GP, .372 OBP, .620 SLG, 167 OPS+
DH Dwight Evans 1981 BOS 108 GP, .415 OBP, .522 SLG, 163 OPS+

C Thurman Munson 1973 NYY 147 GP, .362 OBP, .487 SLG, 141 OPS+
1B Jason Thompson 1978 DET 153 GP, .364 OBP, .472 SLG, 131 OPS+
3B Carney Lansford 1981 BOS 102 GP, .389 OBP, .439 SLG, 133 OPS+
UT Dave Stapleton 1981 BOS 93 GP, .325 OBP, .423 SLG, 109 OPS+
OF Ron LeFlore 1976 DET 135 GP, .376 OBP, .410 SLG, 127 OPS+
OF Rusty Staub 1976 DET 161 GP, .386 OBP, .433 SLG, 136 OPS+

SP Jim Bouton 1963 NYY 249 IP, 2.53 ERA, 139 ERA+
SP Mark Fidrych 1976 DET 250 IP, 2.34 ERA, 158 ERA+
SP Stan Bahnsen 1968 NYY 267 IP, 2.05 ERA, 141 ERA+
SP Fritz Peterson 1969 NYY 272 IP, 2.55 ERA, 137 ERA+
SP Mel Stottlemyre 1969 NYY 303 IP, 2.82 ERA, 123 ERA+

RP Bob Stanley 1983 BOS 145 IP, 2.85 ERA, 153 ERA+
RP Tom Burgmeier 1982 BOS 102 IP, 2.29 ERA, 189 ERA+
RP Lindy McDaniel 1970 NYY 111 IP, 2.07 ERA, 175 ERA+
RP John Hiller 1976 DET 121 IP, 2.38 ERA, 155 ERA+
RP Luis Arroyo 1961 NYY 119 IP, 2.19 ERA, 169 ERA+

Lord, Houk had lousy second basemen. And he liked to let his relief
pitchers pitch. In 1974, John Hiller pitched in 59 games, starting none
of them, and he still threw 150 IP!

I'm not sure that Houk's boys could beat Torre's boys, now that I
look at them. I figured I only get to use one Mickey Mantle season
(otherwise, he'd be playing 2 or 3 outfield positions as well as first
base). On the other hand, there's not a need for a lot of pitchers on
a Houk team, so one could always make sure the bench is full of
platoon-advantage hitters for the late innings.

Catch you later.
--Robert Machemer

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Bob-Nob wrote:
> Bob-Nob venit, vidit, et dixit:
> > Gerry Myerson venit, vidit, et dixit:
> >> Mark_Reichert.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> I was reading Bill James' book on managers and he describes how strong
> >>> a Joe McCarthy All Star Team is pulled from the best seasons of the
> >>> best players of his Cubs, Yankees and Red Sox teams. James gives his
> >>> own main lineup, starters, closer team, but I decided to do a total
> >>> roster version.
>
> >> Cool. Now do the same thing for Connie Mack, John McGraw and a few
> >> others & then someone can simulate a league with those teams
> >> playing each other.
>
> > There's plenty of room to quibble over these selections. (I could
> > easily have picked, say, Roger Clemens's best season with the Yankees
> > over John Tudor's, for instance, and probably should have -- showing my
> > bias, I'm sure), but this is probably about as good a team as any, all
> > in all.
>
> > The Joe Torre All-Stars...
>
> > MGR Joe Torre
> > C Jorge Posada 2003 NYY 142 GP, .405 OBP, .518 SLG, 146 OPS+
> > 1B Tino Martinez 1997 NYY 158 GP, .371 OBP, .577 SLG, 144 OPS+
> > 2B Alfonso Soriano 2002 NYY 156 GP, .332 OBP, .547 SLG, 131 OPS+
> > SS Derek Jeter 1999 NYY 158 GP, .438 OBP, .552 SLG, 161 OPS+
> > 3B Bob Horner 1982 ATL 140 GP, .350 OBP, .501 SLG, 132 OPS+
> > LF Hideki Matsui 2004 NYY 162 GP, .390 OBP, .522 SLG, 139 OPS+
> > CF Bernie Williams 1999 NYY 158 GP, .435 OBP, .536 SLG, 157 OPS+
> > RF Gary Sheffield 2004 NYY 154 GP, .393 OBP, .534 SLG, 143 OPS+
> > DH Jason Giambi 2002 NYY 155 GP, .435 OBP, .598 SLG, 174 OPS+
>
> > C John Stearns 1978 NYM 143 GP, .364 OBP, .413 SLG, 121 OPS+
> > 1B Gregg Jefferies 1993 STL 142 GP, .408 OBP, .485 SLG, 141 OPS+
> > UT Ozzie Smith 1991 STL 150 GP, .380 OBP, .367 SLG, 111 OPS+
> > OF Dale Murphy 1983 ATL 162 GP, .393 OBP, .540 SLG, 150 OPS+
>
> > SP Craig Swan 1978 NYM 207 IP, 144 ERA+
> > SP John Tudor 1990 STL 146 IP, 160 ERA+
> > SP Mike Mussina 2001 NYY 228 IP, 142 ERA+
> > SP Bob Tewkesbury 1992 STL 233 IP, 157 ERA+
> > SP Andy Pettitte 1997 NYY 240 IP, 154 ERA+
>
> > RP Gene Garber 1982 ATL 119 IP, 161 ERA+
> > RP Steve Bedrosian 1982 ATL 137 IP, 155 ERA+
> > RP Mariano Rivera 1996 NYY 107 IP, 242 ERA+
> > RP Terry Forster 1983 ATL 79 IP, 181 ERA+
> > RP Tom Henke 1995 STL 54 IP, 232 ERA+
> > RP Tony Fossas 1995 STL 36 IP, 287 ERA+
>
> Off-hand, even though he didn't manage as long, I'd guess a Ralph
> Houk team could do just as well as a Joe Torre team. Let's see...
>
> MGR Ralph Houk
> C Elston Howard 1961 NYY 129 GP, .387 OBP, .549 SLG, 153 OPS+
> 1B Bill Freehan 1974 DET 130 GP, .361 OBP, .479 SLG, 137 OPS+
> 2B Marty Barrett 1984 BOS 139 GP, .358 OBP, .383 SLG, 102 OPS+
> SS Tom Tresh 1962 NYY 157 GP, .359 OBP, .441 SLG, 117 OPS+
> 3B Wade Boggs 1983 BOS 153 GP, .444 OBP, .486 SLG, 150 OPS+
> LF Jim Rice 1983 BOS 155 GP, .361 OBP, .550 SLG, 141 OPS+
> CF Mickey Mantle 1961 NYY 153 GP, .448 OBP, .687 SLG, 206 OPS+
> RF Roger Maris 1961 NYY 161 GP, .372 OBP, .620 SLG, 167 OPS+
> DH Dwight Evans 1981 BOS 108 GP, .415 OBP, .522 SLG, 163 OPS+

How much 1B did Bill Freehan play? He was always a Catcher when I saw
him in a game. For someone with a weak throwing arm, he was a great
Catcher.

Why would anyone DH Dewey Evans and play Jim Rice in the OF? Is there
some method in Sabremetrics that evaluates Outfielders defensively that
is SO opposite to what just watching them play would indicate? I know
Rice wasn't terrible but Evans was as good a RF as Maris and both were
good enough to move one of them to LF and let Rice DH. In fact, both of
them were great.

Will in New Haven

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In article <42936dd0.TakeThisOut@amhnt2.amherst.edu>,
Bob-Nob <rpmachemer.TakeThisOut@note.SPamherstAM.edu> wrote:
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>C John Stearns 1978 NYM 143 GP, .364 OBP, .413 SLG, 121 OPS+
>1B Gregg Jefferies 1993 STL 142 GP, .408 OBP, .485 SLG, 141 OPS+
>UT Ozzie Smith 1991 STL 150 GP, .380 OBP, .367 SLG, 111 OPS+
>OF Dale Murphy 1983 ATL 162 GP, .393 OBP, .540 SLG, 150 OPS+
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Jefferies, but not A-Rod 2004 133 OPS+? The latter, by the way, is
generally seen as having started slowly this year, but he's already
..026 in OBP and .090 in SLG above last year.
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willreich_77.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> Bob-Nob wrote:

<snip>

>> Off-hand, even though he didn't manage as long, I'd guess a Ralph
>>Houk team could do just as well as a Joe Torre team. Let's see...
>>
>>MGR Ralph Houk
>>C Elston Howard 1961 NYY 129 GP, .387 OBP, .549 SLG, 153 OPS+
>>1B Bill Freehan 1974 DET 130 GP, .361 OBP, .479 SLG, 137 OPS+
>>2B Marty Barrett 1984 BOS 139 GP, .358 OBP, .383 SLG, 102 OPS+
>>SS Tom Tresh 1962 NYY 157 GP, .359 OBP, .441 SLG, 117 OPS+
>>3B Wade Boggs 1983 BOS 153 GP, .444 OBP, .486 SLG, 150 OPS+
>>LF Jim Rice 1983 BOS 155 GP, .361 OBP, .550 SLG, 141 OPS+
>>CF Mickey Mantle 1961 NYY 153 GP, .448 OBP, .687 SLG, 206 OPS+
>>RF Roger Maris 1961 NYY 161 GP, .372 OBP, .620 SLG, 167 OPS+
>>DH Dwight Evans 1981 BOS 108 GP, .415 OBP, .522 SLG, 163 OPS+

bb-ref seems to be down right now, so I can't check OPS+s, but I think
Clarke's 1969 is probably better overall than Barrett's 1984. They were
both well above replacement level and Clarke played significantly more.

> Why would anyone DH Dewey Evans and play Jim Rice in the OF? Is there
> some method in Sabremetrics that evaluates Outfielders defensively that
> is SO opposite to what just watching them play would indicate? I know
> Rice wasn't terrible but Evans was as good a RF as Maris and both were
> good enough to move one of them to LF and let Rice DH. In fact, both of
> them were great.

Yes. I'd keep Dewey's arm in RF and move Maris to LF. If you want
someone who actually played the position, than maybe Rice stays in LF,
but you have to find a real DH.

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willreich_77 DeleteThis @yahoo.com venit, vidit, et dixit:
> Bob-Nob wrote:

<snip of Joe Torre all-stars>

>> Off-hand, even though he didn't manage as long, I'd guess a Ralph
>> Houk team could do just as well as a Joe Torre team. Let's see...

>> MGR Ralph Houk
>> C Elston Howard 1961 NYY 129 GP, .387 OBP, .549 SLG, 153 OPS+
>> 1B Bill Freehan 1974 DET 130 GP, .361 OBP, .479 SLG, 137 OPS+
>> 2B Marty Barrett 1984 BOS 139 GP, .358 OBP, .383 SLG, 102 OPS+
>> SS Tom Tresh 1962 NYY 157 GP, .359 OBP, .441 SLG, 117 OPS+
>> 3B Wade Boggs 1983 BOS 153 GP, .444 OBP, .486 SLG, 150 OPS+
>> LF Jim Rice 1983 BOS 155 GP, .361 OBP, .550 SLG, 141 OPS+
>> CF Mickey Mantle 1961 NYY 153 GP, .448 OBP, .687 SLG, 206 OPS+
>> RF Roger Maris 1961 NYY 161 GP, .372 OBP, .620 SLG, 167 OPS+
>> DH Dwight Evans 1981 BOS 108 GP, .415 OBP, .522 SLG, 163 OPS+

> How much 1B did Bill Freehan play? He was always a Catcher when I saw
> him in a game. For someone with a weak throwing arm, he was a great
> Catcher.

He was listed as a first baseman for that year in bb-ref. I
didn't check the splits on that when I posted. Apparently, Freehan
played 65 games at first that year (21 more than anyone else on the
team), and 63 games at catcher (while Jerry Moses caught in 74 games).

> Why would anyone DH Dewey Evans and play Jim Rice in the OF? Is there
> some method in Sabremetrics that evaluates Outfielders defensively that
> is SO opposite to what just watching them play would indicate? I know
> Rice wasn't terrible but Evans was as good a RF as Maris and both were
> good enough to move one of them to LF and let Rice DH. In fact, both of
> them were great.

Well, I was trying to play outfielders where they played originally.
Rice played left and Evans played right. Arbitrary decision on my part
(which I made when I had both Dale Murphy and Bernie Williams available
to play outfield for the Joe Torre all-stars -- I wanted to play Bernie
in left, where his weak throwing arm wouldn't have been as big a deal
and taken advantage of his Gold Glove fielding, but then thought that
was too much monkeying around, so just moved the former MVP Murphy to
the bench instead).

Catch you later.
--Robert Machemer

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Dvd Avins venit, vidit, et dixit:
> willreich_77 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
>> Bob-Nob wrote:

> <snip>

>>> Off-hand, even though he didn't manage as long, I'd guess a Ralph
>>> Houk team could do just as well as a Joe Torre team. Let's see...

>>> MGR Ralph Houk
>>> C Elston Howard 1961 NYY 129 GP, .387 OBP, .549 SLG, 153 OPS+
>>> 1B Bill Freehan 1974 DET 130 GP, .361 OBP, .479 SLG, 137 OPS+
>>> 2B Marty Barrett 1984 BOS 139 GP, .358 OBP, .383 SLG, 102 OPS+
>>> SS Tom Tresh 1962 NYY 157 GP, .359 OBP, .441 SLG, 117 OPS+
>>> 3B Wade Boggs 1983 BOS 153 GP, .444 OBP, .486 SLG, 150 OPS+
>>> LF Jim Rice 1983 BOS 155 GP, .361 OBP, .550 SLG, 141 OPS+
>>> CF Mickey Mantle 1961 NYY 153 GP, .448 OBP, .687 SLG, 206 OPS+
>>> RF Roger Maris 1961 NYY 161 GP, .372 OBP, .620 SLG, 167 OPS+
>>> DH Dwight Evans 1981 BOS 108 GP, .415 OBP, .522 SLG, 163 OPS+

> bb-ref seems to be down right now, so I can't check OPS+s, but I think
> Clarke's 1969 is probably better overall than Barrett's 1984. They were
> both well above replacement level and Clarke played significantly more.

It's up now.

2B Horace Clarke 1969 NYY 156 GP, .339 OBP, .367 SLG, 101 OPS+
2B Marty Barrett 1984 BOS 139 GP, .358 OBP, .383 SLG, 102 OPS+

I'm fine with replacing Barrett with Clarke, given the games played.
(In my defense, I was going through lots of different years and looking
at lots of different numbers, so though I tried to keep track of playing
time, there were definitely times when things slipped through the cracks).

>> Why would anyone DH Dewey Evans and play Jim Rice in the OF? Is there
>> some method in Sabremetrics that evaluates Outfielders defensively that
>> is SO opposite to what just watching them play would indicate? I know
>> Rice wasn't terrible but Evans was as good a RF as Maris and both were
>> good enough to move one of them to LF and let Rice DH. In fact, both of
>> them were great.

> Yes. I'd keep Dewey's arm in RF and move Maris to LF. If you want
> someone who actually played the position, than maybe Rice stays in LF,
> but you have to find a real DH.

Well, as I said in another post, I tried to play positional players
in positions that they played. It was an arbitrary decision born out of
trying to decide whether to move Bernie Williams to left or bump Dale
Murphy to the bench. My feeling on DHs was that I would just use the
best hitter available. If Evans had played on a team with Tris Speaker,
Willie Mays, and Richie Ashburn (in their primes), he might well have
DHed (if that were an option). But I totally agree with your assessments
of their relative defensive skills. I think Evans was a better player
than Rice, so I was glad to find a position for him, given the arbitrary
decision I made about positions.

Catch you later.
--Robert Machemer

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Cameron Laird venit, vidit, et dixit:
> Bob-Nob <rpmachemer RemoveThis @note.SPamherstAM.edu> wrote:

> .
> .
> .
>> C John Stearns 1978 NYM 143 GP, .364 OBP, .413 SLG, 121 OPS+
>> 1B Gregg Jefferies 1993 STL 142 GP, .408 OBP, .485 SLG, 141 OPS+
>> UT Ozzie Smith 1991 STL 150 GP, .380 OBP, .367 SLG, 111 OPS+
>> OF Dale Murphy 1983 ATL 162 GP, .393 OBP, .540 SLG, 150 OPS+
> .
> .
> .

> Jefferies, but not A-Rod 2004 133 OPS+? The latter, by the way, is
> generally seen as having started slowly this year, but he's already
> .026 in OBP and .090 in SLG above last year.

That's just an oversight on my part. I think I wrote down Horner
early in the process and by the time I got to the later Yankee teams I
was looking more for pitchers and corner outfielders. I'd replace Bob
Horner with ARod in the starting lineup (and, seeing as there are only
four bench players there, I might well add Horner to the bench, figuring
he covers both third and short -- since ARod can move to short if Jeter
gets injured).

Catch you later.
--Robert Machemer

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