Jays at .500

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Perhaps Ricky should try Rookie Phenom Hinske at pitcher next?

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I believe that should be (as a pitcher),mr
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I agree with some points you make. The Jays made a bad mistake in giving
up on Carpenter.
But they were not able to win over nine years with Delgado and he was very
expensive.
As for Stewart, he can not throw and thus will always be a defensive
liability.
After all the wheeling and dealing and big money spent by Ricciardi over
the winter
the Jays are no better than they were last year. They will not make the
playoffs.
Ricciardi gave up some good prospects, Zachary Jackson, Gabe Gross and
David Bush.
Quiroz should have been given more time. Jays' farm teams already seem to
be a disappointment
again.

After a close examination of the Jays 2006 situation, we see that it is
another Gord Ash-type season.

"Realto Margarino" <rm.TakeThisOut@youasked.org> wrote in message
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> After 6 games the Jays have risen/fallen to the level that they will
> find themselves at the end of the year. The Jays are a .500 club.
> Which is what they were last year. It says here, again, that the
> money Ricky Ricardo spent on free agents was a waste of money. And
> he gave up on players (Delgado, Hudson, Stewart, Carpenter) that would
> certainly enhanced the team's chances of winning. Stewart is better
> than any OF, except Wells, Delgado is better than any Jays Power
> hitter, Hudson is better than any Jays middle infielder. And
> Carpenter would look good as #1 or #2 along with Halladay.
>
> It should be noted that the only two decent players the Jays have,
> Halladay and Wells, are the products of the previous Jays
> management. But they were just coming up and were not too heavily
> identified with the team or they would have been swept out as well,
> by Ricky Ricardo.
>
> Perhaps Ricky should try Rookie Phenom Hinske at pitcher next?
>
> cordially, as always,











>
> rm
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"Chameleon" <chameleon.TakeThisOut@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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>I agree with some points you make. The Jays made a bad mistake in giving up
>on Carpenter.
> But they were not able to win over nine years with Delgado and he was very
> expensive.

more expensive than Glaus?? Delgado liked Toronto, and may have stayed for
less than market value, but the offer they made was an insult. No matter
what, it's not fair to blame one guy for the team not winning. When they had
Dlegado and Green, they didn't have the pitching. Before the pitching
started to produce, Green was gone.


> As for Stewart, he can not throw and thus will always be a defensive
> liability.


Right. Like George Bell was Willie Mays? Sorry, man, but you've just bought
the management line here.



> After all the wheeling and dealing and big money spent by Ricciardi over
> the winter
> the Jays are no better than they were last year. They will not make the
> playoffs.

I suppose they could, but, I tend to agree that there is too much optimism.
Everyone seems to overlook the fact that this team overachieved in '05, so
the improvement is not as significant as it might seem. They still lack
depth.




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> Ricciardi gave up some good prospects, Zachary Jackson, Gabe Gross and
> David Bush.
> Quiroz should have been given more time. Jays' farm teams already seem to
> be a disappointment
> again.
>
> After a close examination of the Jays 2006 situation, we see that it is
> another Gord Ash-type season.
>
> "Realto Margarino" <rm.TakeThisOut@youasked.org> wrote in message
> news:B1h_f.717$%U2.73496@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> After 6 games the Jays have risen/fallen to the level that they will
>> find themselves at the end of the year. The Jays are a .500 club.
>> Which is what they were last year. It says here, again, that the
>> money Ricky Ricardo spent on free agents was a waste of money. And
>> he gave up on players (Delgado, Hudson, Stewart, Carpenter) that would
>> certainly enhanced the team's chances of winning. Stewart is better
>> than any OF, except Wells, Delgado is better than any Jays Power
>> hitter, Hudson is better than any Jays middle infielder. And
>> Carpenter would look good as #1 or #2 along with Halladay.
>>
>> It should be noted that the only two decent players the Jays have,
>> Halladay and Wells, are the products of the previous Jays
>> management. But they were just coming up and were not too heavily
>> identified with the team or they would have been swept out as well,
>> by Ricky Ricardo.
>>
>> Perhaps Ricky should try Rookie Phenom Hinske at pitcher next?
>>
>> cordially, as always,
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>> rm
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Geoff Jones <askmeforit RemoveThis @please.com> trolled:

> If the first 6 games of the season are really a foreshadowing of
> the season to come, the Yankees, sitting at .333, are screwed.

Six games foreshadow the Jays final standing. But they do not for
the NYY. The NYY are capable of playing much better. The Jays are
not.

cordially, as always,

rm
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bushdoctor48.RemoveThis@webtv.net trolled:
> rm
> Perhaps Ricky should try Rookie Phenom Hinske at pitcher next?

> ...........................

> I believe that should be (as a pitcher),mr
> spell checker.

No, "at pitcher" is as valid as "at firstbase" or "at catcher" and
these are all quite acceptable.

Nice try, though. If you spend enough of your time at it, you just
might catch me on one.

cordially, as always,

rm
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Chameleon <chameleon RemoveThis @anonymous.com> trolled:

> I agree with some points you make. The Jays made a bad mistake in
> giving up on Carpenter. But they were not able to win over nine
> years with Delgado and he was very expensive.

Delgado didn't have a supporting cast. Do you expect Delgado to do
everything himself? Delgado could have been signed for the same
money that brought over Burnett or Glaus and he is a far better
player than either of those two. The Jays lied when they said they
couldn't sign Delgado. A few weeks after he signed with Florida,
they announced that they had money for free agents after all.

> As for Stewart, he can not throw and thus will always be a
> defensive liability.

He can throw well enough for two first place finishes, in three
years, with Minnesota. His "arm problem", all hype, was Ricky
Ricardo's way of making him look like a liability. The Jays got
Kielty for Stewart. That has to be one of the most lopsided trades
in Jays' history.

> After all the wheeling and dealing and big money spent by
> Ricciardi over the winter the Jays are no better than they were
> last year. They will not make the playoffs. Ricciardi gave up
> some good prospects, Zachary Jackson, Gabe Gross and David Bush.
> Quiroz should have been given more time. Jays' farm teams already
> seem to be a disappointment again.

We agree on these things.

> After a close examination of the Jays 2006 situation, we see that
> it is another Gord Ash-type season.

Yes, you are quite right.

cordially, as always,

rm
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"Realto Margarino" <rm.TakeThisOut@youasked.org> wrote in message
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> bushdoctor48.TakeThisOut@webtv.net trolled:
>> rm
>> Perhaps Ricky should try Rookie Phenom Hinske at pitcher next?
>
>> ...........................
>
>> I believe that should be (as a pitcher),mr
>> spell checker.
>
> No, "at pitcher" is as valid as "at firstbase" or "at catcher" and
> these are all quite acceptable.


ummmmmmm, no. "firstbase" describes the position. "pitcher" and "catcher"
describe the player, and I have never heard either of those used in that
manner.





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> Nice try, though. If you spend enough of your time at it, you just
> might catch me on one.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
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> Chameleon <chameleon DeleteThis @anonymous.com> trolled:
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>> I agree with some points you make. The Jays made a bad mistake in
>> giving up on Carpenter. But they were not able to win over nine
>> years with Delgado and he was very expensive.
>
> Delgado didn't have a supporting cast. Do you expect Delgado to do
> everything himself? Delgado could have been signed for the same
> money that brought over Burnett or Glaus and he is a far better
> player than either of those two. The Jays lied when they said they
> couldn't sign Delgado. A few weeks after he signed with Florida,
> they announced that they had money for free agents after all.
>
>> As for Stewart, he can not throw and thus will always be a
>> defensive liability.
>
> He can throw well enough for two first place finishes, in three
> years, with Minnesota. His "arm problem", all hype, was Ricky
> Ricardo's way of making him look like a liability.


you are correct, and I can't believe how many of the fans swallowed that,
hook, line and sinker.




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The Jays got
> Kielty for Stewart. That has to be one of the most lopsided trades
> in Jays' history.
>
>> After all the wheeling and dealing and big money spent by
>> Ricciardi over the winter the Jays are no better than they were
>> last year. They will not make the playoffs. Ricciardi gave up
>> some good prospects, Zachary Jackson, Gabe Gross and David Bush.
>> Quiroz should have been given more time. Jays' farm teams already
>> seem to be a disappointment again.
>
> We agree on these things.
>
>> After a close examination of the Jays 2006 situation, we see that
>> it is another Gord Ash-type season.
>
> Yes, you are quite right.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
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"Geoff Jones" <askmeforit.DeleteThis@please.com> wrote in message
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> "Realto Margarino" <rm.DeleteThis@youasked.org> wrote in message
> news:B1h_f.717$%U2.73496@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> After 6 games the Jays have risen/fallen to the level that they will
>> find themselves at the end of the year. The Jays are a .500 club.
>> Which is what they were last year. It says here, again, that the
>> money Ricky Ricardo spent on free agents was a waste of money. And
>> he gave up on players (Delgado, Hudson, Stewart, Carpenter) that would
>> certainly enhanced the team's chances of winning. Stewart is better
>> than any OF, except Wells, Delgado is better than any Jays Power
>> hitter, Hudson is better than any Jays middle infielder. And
>> Carpenter would look good as #1 or #2 along with Halladay.
>>
>> It should be noted that the only two decent players the Jays have,
>> Halladay and Wells, are the products of the previous Jays
>> management. But they were just coming up and were not too heavily
>> identified with the team or they would have been swept out as well,
>> by Ricky Ricardo.
>>
>> Perhaps Ricky should try Rookie Phenom Hinske at pitcher next?
>>
>> cordially, as always,
>>
>> rm
>
> If the first 6 games of the season are really a foreshadowing of the
> season to come, the Yankees, sitting at .333, are screwed.

And the ChiSox at .429 certainly cannot defend their WS title.
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Bill Kawalec <billkawalec.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> trolled:

> ummmmmmm, no. "firstbase" describes the position. "pitcher" and
> "catcher" describe the player, and I have never heard either of
> those used in that manner.

Are you nuts? What position does the pitcher play? What position
does the catcher play?

Please stop following me around.

cordially, as always,

rm
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"Realto Margarino" <rm.RemoveThis@youasked.org> wrote in message
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> Bill Kawalec <billkawalec.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> trolled:
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>> ummmmmmm, no. "firstbase" describes the position. "pitcher" and
>> "catcher" describe the player, and I have never heard either of
>> those used in that manner.
>
> Are you nuts? What position does the pitcher play? What position
> does the catcher play?


whatever. I never heard "at pitcher" or "at catcher" before. Wanna debate
"flied out" vs "flew out"?







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>
> Please stop following me around.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
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In article <123n7qm8nm0vn4d.DeleteThis@news.supernews.com>, email.DeleteThis@email.com
says...
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> "Geoff Jones" <askmeforit.DeleteThis@please.com> wrote in message
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> > "Realto Margarino" <rm.DeleteThis@youasked.org> wrote in message
> > news:B1h_f.717$%U2.73496@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> After 6 games the Jays have risen/fallen to the level that they will
> >> find themselves at the end of the year. The Jays are a .500 club.
> >> Which is what they were last year. It says here, again, that the
> >> money Ricky Ricardo spent on free agents was a waste of money. And
> >> he gave up on players (Delgado, Hudson, Stewart, Carpenter) that would
> >> certainly enhanced the team's chances of winning. Stewart is better
> >> than any OF, except Wells, Delgado is better than any Jays Power
> >> hitter, Hudson is better than any Jays middle infielder. And
> >> Carpenter would look good as #1 or #2 along with Halladay.
> >>
> >> It should be noted that the only two decent players the Jays have,
> >> Halladay and Wells, are the products of the previous Jays
> >> management. But they were just coming up and were not too heavily
> >> identified with the team or they would have been swept out as well,
> >> by Ricky Ricardo.
> >>
> >> Perhaps Ricky should try Rookie Phenom Hinske at pitcher next?
> >>
> >> cordially, as always,
> >>
> >> rm
> >
> > If the first 6 games of the season are really a foreshadowing of the
> > season to come, the Yankees, sitting at .333, are screwed.
>
> And the ChiSox at .429 certainly cannot defend their WS title.

Most notably, Ronald L. Matthews of London, Ontario triumphantly
announced in April of 2003 that the Blue Jays would be the worst
team in baseball history, en route to them going 80-60 the rest
of the way.

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a whole-hearted supporter of what is good."

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Dan Szymborski <dan.TakeThisOut@baseballprimer.com> trolled:

[deletia]

Mr. Szymborski met somone in the London City Jail once who claimed
to be Ronald Matthews, and he likes to believe that it was us. Mr.
Szymborski feels that this was the one brush with celebrity he's had
in his miserable little life and he is loathe to accept our
explanation that it wasn't us.

Jays have seen .500 for the last time this year. Towers pitches in
the manner to which we've become accustomed.

The Jays are hitting for average, we have to say that for them.

But they still don't have any pitching. Now both Halladay and
Burnett are injured. Who is their "stopper" now? Ted Lilly?

cordially, as always,

rm
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