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Colin William

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:45 pm
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torn ligament, may need season ending surgery; he's on the DL:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/bra..._tim_hu

And, insult to injury, Chipper's back on the DL:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/hud..._chippe

I'm not sure this season could have been more brutal in terms of injuries.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:24 am
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On Jul 28, 10:45 pm, "Colin William" <colintwill... RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
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> torn ligament, may need season ending surgery; he's on the DL:
>
> http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/br...
>
> And, insult to injury, Chipper's back on the DL:
>
> http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/hu...
>
> I'm not sure this season could have been more brutal in terms of injuries..

Who besides Tex should be traded?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:26 am
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On Jul 29, 11:42 am, Colin William <colintwill....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sam Hutcheson wrote:
> > Who besides Tex should be traded?
>
> Ohman seems to be the only other one tradeable. I think Bobby has been
> running Royce ring out there in the hope he could make himself tradeable
> too, but he's done quite the opposite.
>
> Hampton might be tradeable in August, if he shows any ability to pitch.
> I assume he'll clear waivers

Why? Because of the risk of "you want him? Congratulations!" If
there's
a claim put in. (Also known as the Randy Myers rule of waiver claims)

> and thus will be tradeable until Aug 31.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:35 am
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I would say kotsay, ohman, and yes francoeur im sick of of what I been
seeing out of him.
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On Jul 28, 10:45 pm, "Colin William" <colintwill... DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:
> torn ligament, may need season ending surgery; he's on the DL:
>
> http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/br...
>
> And, insult to injury, Chipper's back on the DL:
>
> http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/hu...
>
> I'm not sure this season could have been more brutal in terms of injuries.

Who besides Tex should be traded?

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:42 am
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Sam Hutcheson wrote:
> Who besides Tex should be traded?

Ohman seems to be the only other one tradeable. I think Bobby has been
running Royce ring out there in the hope he could make himself tradeable
too, but he's done quite the opposite.

Hampton might be tradeable in August, if he shows any ability to pitch.
I assume he'll clear waivers and thus will be tradeable until Aug 31.

Colin
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:43 am
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david wrote:
> I would say kotsay, ohman, and yes francoeur im sick of of what I been
> seeing out of him.

I forgot about Kotsay. He is hitting .290 with good defense, albeit an
empty .290. Should be useful to somebody.

Colin
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:49 pm
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"Ron Johnson" <johnson.TakeThisOut@ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca> wrote
>> Hampton might be tradeable in August, if he shows any ability to pitch.
>> I assume he'll clear waivers
>
> Why? Because of the risk of "you want him? Congratulations!" If
> there's
> a claim put in. (Also known as the Randy Myers rule of waiver claims)
>
>> and thus will be tradeable until Aug 31.

Exactly. If someone wants to pick up his last few million in salary, let
'em.

Colin
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:42 pm
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Colin William wrote:
> Sam Hutcheson wrote:
> > Who besides Tex should be traded?
>
> Ohman seems to be the only other one tradeable. I think Bobby has been
> running Royce ring out there in the hope he could make himself tradeable
> too, but he's done quite the opposite.
>
> Hampton might be tradeable in August, if he shows any ability to pitch.
> I assume he'll clear waivers and thus will be tradeable until Aug 31.

Best case scenario is Hampton pitches himself into tradability. I
wouldn't bet on that. I too had missed Kotsay as an obvious spare
part. Not sure he'd bring anything worthwhile in return though and
the Braves don't seem to be in "trade for low-A pitchers" mode yet
(ignoring whether or not they should be.) To the fella's suggestion
that they trade Francoeur I'd say no. His value is rock-bottom low.
Hold onto him until he regains some value at least. He's cheap.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:05 pm
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Quote:
>
> torn ligament, may need season ending surgery; he's on the DL:
>
> http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/bra..._tim_hu
>
> And, insult to injury, Chipper's back on the DL:
>
> http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/hud..._chippe
>
> I'm not sure this season could have been more brutal in terms of injuries.
>
> Colin
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> "Science is based on a fundamental insight - that the degree to which an
> idea seems true has nothing to do with whether it is true"
>
>
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:40 pm
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"Sam Hutcheson" <samh.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote
> Best case scenario is Hampton pitches himself into tradability. I
> wouldn't bet on that. I too had missed Kotsay as an obvious spare
> part. Not sure he'd bring anything worthwhile in return though and
> the Braves don't seem to be in "trade for low-A pitchers" mode yet
> (ignoring whether or not they should be.) To the fella's suggestion
> that they trade Francoeur I'd say no. His value is rock-bottom low.
> Hold onto him until he regains some value at least. He's cheap.

What's the contract status for Mike Gonzalez?

Colin
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:02 am
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On Jul 29, 10:40 pm, "Colin William" <colintwill... DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:
> "Sam Hutcheson" <s... DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote
>
> > Best case scenario is Hampton pitches himself into tradability.  I
> > wouldn't bet on that.  I too had missed Kotsay as an obvious spare
> > part.  Not sure he'd bring anything worthwhile in return though and
> > the Braves don't seem to be in "trade for low-A pitchers" mode yet
> > (ignoring whether or not they should be.)  To the fella's suggestion
> > that they trade Francoeur I'd say no.  His value is rock-bottom low.
> > Hold onto him until he regains some value at least.  He's cheap.
>
> What's the contract status for Mike Gonzalez?

FA at the end of the year. He and Ohman are talked about a bit. Not
sure either would return much.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:33 pm
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Lance Freezeland wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:40:23 -0400, "Colin William"
> <colintwilliam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> gave us:
> >"Sam Hutcheson" <samh.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote
>
> >> Best case scenario is Hampton pitches himself into tradability. I
> >> wouldn't bet on that. I too had missed Kotsay as an obvious spare
> >> part. Not sure he'd bring anything worthwhile in return though and
> >> the Braves don't seem to be in "trade for low-A pitchers" mode yet
> >> (ignoring whether or not they should be.) To the fella's suggestion
> >> that they trade Francoeur I'd say no. His value is rock-bottom low.
> >> Hold onto him until he regains some value at least. He's cheap.
>
> >What's the contract status for Mike Gonzalez?
>
> Rick Horton was talking on FSN Midwest last night about Gonzalez being
> available and being one of five LH relievers that the Cardinals are
> looking at. I think that Gonzalez is a free agent at the end of the
> year.

Not unless he was Super-Two and that plays havoc with his service time/
arb clock and I see nothing in his career to suggest that's the case.
He started the year with just over 4 years of service time. He'll end
it with +/- 5. He's been through arb twice, once in 07 and once in
08. He should have another arb year in 09, then go FA.

Will Ohman is FA at the end of this year.

Rafeal Soriano is under contract through 2009 (makes 6.1 mil in 2009.)

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