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roycigar

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:17 pm
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Blew the lead in game 3 vs. Yanks in 1998 (Broscius); blew last year's
All Star Game for NL, blew Saturday's game vs. Milwaukee when Padres
could have clinched, and blowing tonight's game...he may be the all
time saves leader--against inferior NL hitting minus a DH--but he is
no Mariano Rivera.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:08 am
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"roycigar" wrote in message

> Blew the lead in game 3 vs. Yanks in 1998 (Broscius); blew last year's
> All Star Game for NL, blew Saturday's game vs. Milwaukee when Padres
> could have clinched, and blowing tonight's game...he may be the all
> time saves leader--against inferior NL hitting minus a DH--but he is
> no Mariano Rivera.

The All-Star Game isn't a big deal to me - but at the end of the day, a
closer is defined by situations like these. And Hoffman seems to blow these
types of games very often.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:09 pm
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Tom K wrote:

>> Blew the lead in game 3 vs. Yanks in 1998 (Broscius); blew last year's
>> All Star Game for NL, blew Saturday's game vs. Milwaukee when Padres
>> could have clinched, and blowing tonight's game...he may be the all
>> time saves leader--against inferior NL hitting minus a DH--but he is
>> no Mariano Rivera.
>
> The All-Star Game isn't a big deal to me - but at the end of the day, a
> closer is defined by situations like these. And Hoffman seems to blow these
> types of games very often.


I wonder how he got all those saves. Pitchers and pinch hitters bating,
I guess.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:48 pm
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On Oct 2, 11:09 am, DC wrote:
> Tom K wrote:
> >> Blew the lead in game 3 vs. Yanks in 1998 (Broscius); blew last year's
> >> All Star Game for NL, blew Saturday's game vs. Milwaukee when Padres
> >> could have clinched, and blowing tonight's game...he may be the all
> >> time saves leader--against inferior NL hitting minus a DH--but he is
> >> no Mariano Rivera.
>
> > The All-Star Game isn't a big deal to me - but at the end of the day, a
> > closer is defined by situations like these. And Hoffman seems to blow these
> > types of games very often.
>
> I wonder how he got all those saves. Pitchers and pinch hitters bating,
> I guess.


No, he has been good and he has had some big regular season saves
(I've lived here in San Diego for the past several years)....however,
when it comes to a big stage with a lot of attention--and even though
the All Star Game is an exhibition game it still is played on a big
stage--he has laid a bunch of eggs. He hasn't really had a fastball to
speak of for the past 5-6 years, but sure has one helluva changeup.
He's sure to be a HOF'er--not necessarily 1st ballot--but the blown
saves in key games of his career will linger with some of the voters,
IMHO
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