Hey Buddie, You're Fired

On May 25, 6:44 pm, Hoover <Hoo....TakeThisOut@cst.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>
> <Scott....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >How in the hell does he let Mr. Big BA Greene stare at called strike 3
> >in the bottom of the 12th, game tied with the leading run on first
> >base.
>
> >Bunt him over ya MORON.   We don't need a rallie, we just need a run.
> >Pads wheels are so flat they need 2 hits (non-homers) to score anyone
> >on this squad from first.  With our bats the odds in that is slim and none.
> >BUNT!
> >ScottW
>
> In this series Khalil has 2 Homers, a double and 3 RBIs in this
> series, and would've had another homer last night,  except
> for  J. Hairston's great catch over the fence in left-center.




The original poster was referring to a lack of strategy in situational
hitting.
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On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:36:26 -0700 (PDT), "Kurgan Gringioni."
<kgringioni RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 25, 6:44?pm, Hoover <Hoo... RemoveThis @cst.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>>
>> <Scott... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >How in the hell does he let Mr. Big BA Greene stare at called strike 3
>> >in the bottom of the 12th, game tied with the leading run on first
>> >base.
>>
>> >Bunt him over ya MORON. ? We don't need a rallie, we just need a run.
>> >Pads wheels are so flat they need 2 hits (non-homers) to score anyone
>> >on this squad from first. ?With our bats the odds in that is slim and none.
>> >BUNT!
>> >ScottW
>>
>> In this series Khalil has 2 Homers, a double and 3 RBIs in this
>> series, and would've had another homer last night, ?except
>> for ?J. Hairston's great catch over the fence in left-center.
>
>
>
>
>The original poster was referring to a lack of strategy in situational
>hitting.


I'm well aware of that, but respectfully disagree on the strategy.

In the 18th inning winning rally, Scott Hairston advanced by stealing
2nd base, and eventually scored thanks to a home run by A. Gonzales,
not because of a bunt.
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On May 25, 8:51 pm, Hoover <Hoo....TakeThisOut@cst.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:36:26 -0700 (PDT), "Kurgan Gringioni."
>
>
>
>
>
> <kgringi....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 25, 6:44?pm, Hoover <Hoo....TakeThisOut@cst.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>
> >> <Scott....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >How in the hell does he let Mr. Big BA Greene stare at called strike 3
> >> >in the bottom of the 12th, game tied with the leading run on first
> >> >base.
>
> >> >Bunt him over ya MORON. ? We don't need a rallie, we just need a run.
> >> >Pads wheels are so flat they need 2 hits (non-homers) to score anyone
> >> >on this squad from first. ?With our bats the odds in that is slim and none.
> >> >BUNT!
> >> >ScottW
>
> >> In this series Khalil has 2 Homers, a double and 3 RBIs in this
> >> series, and would've had another homer last night, ?except
> >> for ?J. Hairston's great catch over the fence in left-center.
>
> >The original poster was referring to a lack of strategy in situational
> >hitting.
>
> I'm well aware of that,  but respectfully disagree on the strategy.
>
> In the 18th inning winning rally,  Scott Hairston advanced by stealing
> 2nd base, and eventually scored thanks to  a home  run by A. Gonzales,
> not because of a bunt.



Am I correct in assuming that you believe the Padres' strategy in
general maximizes run output?
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On Sun, 25 May 2008 21:14:58 -0700 (PDT), "Kurgan Gringioni."
<kgringioni RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>> I'm well aware of that, ?but respectfully disagree on the strategy.
>>
>> In the 18th inning winning rally, ?Scott Hairston advanced by stealing
>> 2nd base, and eventually scored thanks to ?a home ?run by A. Gonzales,
>> not because of a bunt.

>Am I correct in assuming that you believe the Padres' strategy in
>general maximizes run output?


Not real surprising you don't want to address today's game, which
the team won by scoring 12 runs, hitting 4 homers, and capped
by a 3-run walkoff.

Try reading a book written by Hall of Fame manager Earl Weaver
called, " Weaver on Strategy ". He can acquaint you with how
good managers actually work during games.
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On May 26, 12:45 am, Hoover <Hoo....DeleteThis@cst.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2008 21:14:58 -0700 (PDT), "Kurgan Gringioni."
>
> <kgringi....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm well aware of that, ?but respectfully disagree on the strategy.
>
> >> In the 18th inning winning rally, ?Scott Hairston advanced by stealing
> >> 2nd base, and eventually scored thanks to ?a home ?run by A. Gonzales,
> >> not because of a bunt.
> >Am I correct in assuming that you believe the Padres' strategy in
> >general maximizes run output?
>
> Not real surprising you don't want to address today's game, which
> the team won by scoring 12 runs,  hitting 4 homers,  and capped
> by  a 3-run walkoff.
>
> Try reading a book written by  Hall of Fame manager Earl Weaver
> called,  " Weaver on Strategy ".   He can acquaint you with how
> good managers actually work during games.




Am I correct in assuming the Padres' strategy in general maximizes run
output?
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 00:29:54 -0700 (PDT), "Kurgan Gringioni."
<kgringioni RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Am I correct in assuming the Padres' strategy in general maximizes run
>output?


The chances of this thread exceeding the scintilating "define
staturory rape" thread in length are Zero.
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On May 26, 5:55 pm, Hoover <Hoo....TakeThisOut@cst.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 00:29:54 -0700 (PDT), "Kurgan Gringioni."
>
> <kgringi....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Am I correct in assuming the Padres' strategy in general maximizes run
> >output?
>
> The chances of this thread exceeding  the  scintilating  "define
> staturory rape"  thread in length are Zero.  



Am I correct in assuming the Padres' strategy in general maximizes
run
output?
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> The chances of this thread exceeding the scintilating "define
> staturory rape" thread in length are Zero.

That was a stupid thread anyway.

Sincerely,
R Kelly
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On May 25, 8:51 pm, Hoover <Hoo... DeleteThis @cst.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:36:26 -0700 (PDT), "Kurgan Gringioni."
>
>
>
>
>
> <kgringi... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 25, 6:44?pm, Hoover <Hoo... DeleteThis @cst.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>
> >> <Scott... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >How in the hell does he let Mr. Big BA Greene stare at called strike 3
> >> >in the bottom of the 12th, game tied with the leading run on first
> >> >base.
>
> >> >Bunt him over ya MORON. ? We don't need a rallie, we just need a run.
> >> >Pads wheels are so flat they need 2 hits (non-homers) to score anyone
> >> >on this squad from first. ?With our bats the odds in that is slim and none.
> >> >BUNT!
> >> >ScottW
>
> >> In this series Khalil has 2 Homers, a double and 3 RBIs in this
> >> series, and would've had another homer last night, ?except
> >> for ?J. Hairston's great catch over the fence in left-center.
>
> >The original poster was referring to a lack of strategy in situational
> >hitting.
>
> I'm well aware of that,  but respectfully disagree on the strategy.
>
> In the 18th inning winning rally,  Scott Hairston advanced by stealing
> 2nd base, and eventually scored thanks to  a home  run by A. Gonzales,
> not because of a bunt.

I tuned out for awhile but did come back to the game in time to hear
the annoucer
say a leadoff double was stranded at 2nd base.
Now WTF happenned there?

ScottW
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On May 25, 6:44 pm, Hoover <Hoo... DeleteThis @cst.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>
> <Scott... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >How in the hell does he let Mr. Big BA Greene stare at called strike 3
> >in the bottom of the 12th, game tied with the leading run on first
> >base.
>
> >Bunt him over ya MORON.   We don't need a rallie, we just need a run.
> >Pads wheels are so flat they need 2 hits (non-homers) to score anyone
> >on this squad from first.  With our bats the odds in that is slim and none.
> >BUNT!
> >ScottW
>
> In this series Khalil has 2 Homers, a double and 3 RBIs in this
> series, and would've had another homer last night,  except
> for  J. Hairston's great catch over the fence in left-center.

and the game in question might have ended in 12 instead of 18 innings
if
Buddie had half a brain. I'm curious what that book says about
changing strategy late in the game when 1 run will win.

ScottW
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On May 28, 11:20 am, ScottW <Scott... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 25, 6:44 pm, Hoover <Hoo... DeleteThis @cst.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>
> > <Scott... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >How in the hell does he let Mr. Big BA Greene stare at called strike 3
> > >in the bottom of the 12th, game tied with the leading run on first
> > >base.
>
> > >Bunt him over ya MORON.   We don't need a rallie, we just need a run.
> > >Pads wheels are so flat they need 2 hits (non-homers) to score anyone
> > >on this squad from first.  With our bats the odds in that is slim and none.
> > >BUNT!
> > >ScottW
>
> > In this series Khalil has 2 Homers, a double and 3 RBIs in this
> > series, and would've had another homer last night,  except
> > for  J. Hairston's great catch over the fence in left-center.
>
>  and the game in question might have ended in 12 instead of 18 innings
> if
> Buddie had half a brain.

If Khalil had bunted the runner over there, they would have
intentionally walked Edgar Gonzalez. As it played out, they
unintentionally walked him, so a sacrifice would have just been a
different path to get to the same place.
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On May 28, 1:03 pm, Seapig <sea... DeleteThis @altavista.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 11:20 am, ScottW <Scott... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 25, 6:44 pm, Hoover <Hoo... DeleteThis @cst.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>
> > > <Scott... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >How in the hell does he let Mr. Big BA Greene stare at called strike 3
> > > >in the bottom of the 12th, game tied with the leading run on first
> > > >base.
>
> > > >Bunt him over ya MORON.   We don't need a rallie, we just need a run.
> > > >Pads wheels are so flat they need 2 hits (non-homers) to score anyone
> > > >on this squad from first.  With our bats the odds in that is slim and none.
> > > >BUNT!
> > > >ScottW
>
> > > In this series Khalil has 2 Homers, a double and 3 RBIs in this
> > > series, and would've had another homer last night,  except
> > > for  J. Hairston's great catch over the fence in left-center.
>
> >  and the game in question might have ended in 12 instead of 18 innings
> > if
> > Buddie had half a brain.
>
> If Khalil had bunted the runner over there, they would have
> intentionally walked Edgar Gonzalez.  As it played out, they
> unintentionally walked him, so a sacrifice would have just been a
> different path to get to the same place.

Why, with only 1 out, would they not go after Edgar?
And maybe with a runner in scoring position and first open,
Edgar might have looked to hit the ball over taking a walk.
Him taking a walk advances the runner in one scenario,
in another it accomplishes nothing and is even a negative.

and would someone please explain how they srand a leadoff
double at second later?

ScottW
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On May 29, 3:20 pm, ScottW <Scott....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Why, with only 1 out, would they not go after Edgar?

> Him taking a walk advances the runner in one scenario,
> in another it accomplishes nothing and is even a negative.

You answered your own question.
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