Goodbye Choke

"Lord Buckeye" <l_buckeye.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Good riddance.

I would have rather tried to trade him for someone, even a minor leaguer.
Surprised that he will not go down to triple A if that happens as he will
still be making decent money. Messenger has just started coming back around
after pitching really bad through May. Hennessey still sucks. Chulk
(choke) really needs to get his act together. He is not that bad, but
without decent control and the ability to keep the ball down, his fastball
can be flat and he hangs too many breaking pitches. But like many relievers
he needs to get into a groove. I doubt that he will have be a great
reliever so he might as well be gone. Give somone else in the organization a
shot. Another failure for rags.
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wayne simon sez..." another failure for rags"


you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
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"Dr. Wayne Simon" <wayne.simon DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Brent Peterson" <brentpeterson01 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > For the record, Chulk had the best year of his career last year. This
> > year, he returned to his 2006 form. This is not a case of Rags screwing
> > up.
> >
> > -Brent
>
> The problem here is that the guy throws 95mph

Lay off on the drugs, doc.
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"JW" <JohnW.RemoveThis@clearwire.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:21:22 -0700 (PDT), Lord Buckeye
> <l_buckeye.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080624&content_id=2993733&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
>>
>>Good riddance.
>
> Sadly, it happened about three months too late ... but I'm going to
> have a drink to celebrate this exceptionally good news. Who is going
> to be next? That bullpen needs some house cleaning and Choke is just
> the first dust bunny to be swept out the door.
>
> Giant's Splash blog mentions that the Giants are brining up a couple
> of fireballers from the minors and I don't mean Fresno.

Pretty much it looks like Messenger and Hennessey are old news too.
Hennessey's value dropped like a ton of bricks, now we need to get rid of
Zito.
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:00:17 -0400, "Dr. Wayne Simon"
<wayne.simon RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"JW" <JohnW RemoveThis @clearwire.net> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:21:22 -0700 (PDT), Lord Buckeye
>> <l_buckeye RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080624&content_id=2993733&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
>>>
>>>Good riddance.
>>
>> Sadly, it happened about three months too late ... but I'm going to
>> have a drink to celebrate this exceptionally good news. Who is going
>> to be next? That bullpen needs some house cleaning and Choke is just
>> the first dust bunny to be swept out the door.
>>
>> Giant's Splash blog mentions that the Giants are brining up a couple
>> of fireballers from the minors and I don't mean Fresno.
>
>Pretty much it looks like Messenger and Hennessey are old news too.
>Hennessey's value dropped like a ton of bricks, now we need to get rid of
>Zito.
>

Watch out for the two kids coming up from deeper than AAA. Both throw
hard and that's refreshing after Chulk. I wouldn't mind seeing Yabu
heading for assignment as well.
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:38:30 -0700, Brent Peterson
<brentpeterson01.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Dr. Wayne Simon wrote:
>
>> I would have rather tried to trade him for someone, even a minor leaguer.
>> Surprised that he will not go down to triple A if that happens as he will
>> still be making decent money. Messenger has just started coming back around
>> after pitching really bad through May. Hennessey still sucks. Chulk
>> (choke) really needs to get his act together. He is not that bad, but
>> without decent control and the ability to keep the ball down, his fastball
>> can be flat and he hangs too many breaking pitches. But like many relievers
>> he needs to get into a groove. I doubt that he will have be a great
>> reliever so he might as well be gone. Give somone else in the organization a
>> shot. Another failure for rags.
>
>This is not a failure for Righetti. Vinnie Chulks are everywhere in
>baseball. The league is full of journeyman middle relievers who are
>constantly being picked up and released. Actually, one of Sabean's
>strengths is his ability to find capable middle relievers off the trash
>heap.

It used to be.
--
Greg Lentz
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"JW" <JohnW.TakeThisOut@clearwire.net> wrote in message
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> Watch out for the two kids coming up from deeper than AAA. Both throw
> hard and that's refreshing after Chulk. I wouldn't mind seeing Yabu
> heading for assignment as well.

Are you kidding? Yabu and Tashner are the only ones in the bullpen with ERA
under 3. Everyone else is over 4, except Hinshaw (3.45).
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:00:37 -0700, "Awesome Lincecum"
<Lincecum.RemoveThis@sf.giants> wrote:

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>"JW" <JohnW.RemoveThis@clearwire.net> wrote in message
>>
>> Watch out for the two kids coming up from deeper than AAA. Both throw
>> hard and that's refreshing after Chulk. I wouldn't mind seeing Yabu
>> heading for assignment as well.
>
>Are you kidding? Yabu and Tashner are the only ones in the bullpen with ERA
>under 3. Everyone else is over 4, except Hinshaw (3.45).
>

Yabu's toast and I'll give Taschner a pass. Yabu's ERA is 3.43 and
he's now 3-4.
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"JW" <JohnW.DeleteThis@clearwire.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:00:37 -0700, "Awesome Lincecum"
> <Lincecum.DeleteThis@sf.giants> wrote:
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> >
> >"JW" <JohnW.DeleteThis@clearwire.net> wrote in message
> >>
> >> Watch out for the two kids coming up from deeper than AAA. Both throw
> >> hard and that's refreshing after Chulk. I wouldn't mind seeing Yabu
> >> heading for assignment as well.
> >
> >Are you kidding? Yabu and Tashner are the only ones in the bullpen with
ERA
> >under 3. Everyone else is over 4, except Hinshaw (3.45).
> >
>
> Yabu's toast and I'll give Taschner a pass. Yabu's ERA is 3.43 and
> he's now 3-4.

What is Wilson's ERA and W-L?
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