Galarraga Should have been ejected

On Jul 1, 10:37 am, "John Poutre" <mehates....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Let me guess, you got kicked off the debate team in Jr. high for making the
> same type of comparisons?  LOL

Why not answer the question? It wasn't a comparison, it was an
analogy. Intent, not result, is what matters. He went in with intent.
He shouldn't face less of a penalty simply because he was unable to
execute his intent.

Instead of talking about irrelevant and imaginary high school debate
teams, why not address the question. Why does failing at the task make
it okay?

Matt
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> > On Jul 1, 10:37 am, "John Poutre" <mehates....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Let me guess, you got kicked off the debate team in Jr. high for making
> >> the
> >> same type of comparisons? LOL
>
> > Why not answer the question? It wasn't a comparison, it was an
> > analogy. Intent, not result, is what matters. He went in with intent.
> > He shouldn't face less of a penalty simply because he was unable to
> > execute his intent.
>
> > Instead of talking about irrelevant and imaginary high school debate
> > teams, why not address the question. Why does failing at the task make
> > it okay?
> > ----------------------------
>
> > Ummm, he was warned wasn't he?  I didn't see it, I am assuming it was
> > inside?  So, when the 2nd inside pitch happens (kind of showing the intent
> > to pitch inside and make him move) there is a warning.
>
> > Do you know he was trying to hit him or just move him?  Maybe you had a
> > conversation with him to know the intent?
>
> I think the beef should be -- and I'm sure this was why Gardy got tossed --  
> that Galarraga should have gotten warned after the FIRST pitch that got
> thrown at Mauer...  I honestly don't blame Galarraga, he's just upholding
> the silly "MLB Code Of Honor" that says you throw at Mauer when Guillen gets
> his bean buzzed...
>
> The problem and IMO incompetence is from the home plate ump -- who was it
> last night, anyway?  Not only did he call a horrible strike zone (a couple
> of strike threes to Kubel and I think it was Granderson were just terrible
> calls) but he totally blew it on Galarraga's painfully obvious first message
> pitch!  Any ump with half a clue would've picked up on the fact that Guillen
> and likely all the Tigers were royally pissed about that fastball at
> Guillen's head...   so Galarraga throws at Mauer at the first opportunity --  
> BEHIND him no less -- and the home ump just lets that go?  What a dolt....
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The other thing that miffs Gardy is when his guy gets thrown at, and
the ump warns both benches. He runs out and screams something like :
"Why are *we* getting warned? We didn't do anything [under his
breath: "yet."]. He didn't have such a clear case to be made last
night since Perkins was involved early (though probably not
intentionally).

I would not want to be the first Tiger batter to come up with the
bases empty and 2 outs tonight. Who knows? maybe Scott Baker is too
nice a guy.

brianj
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On Jul 1, 10:37 am, "John Poutre" <mehates... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Let me guess, you got kicked off the debate team in Jr. high for making
> the
> same type of comparisons? LOL

Why not answer the question? It wasn't a comparison, it was an
analogy. Intent, not result, is what matters. He went in with intent.
He shouldn't face less of a penalty simply because he was unable to
execute his intent.

Instead of talking about irrelevant and imaginary high school debate
teams, why not address the question. Why does failing at the task make
it okay?
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Ummm, he was warned wasn't he? I didn't see it, I am assuming it was
inside? So, when the 2nd inside pitch happens (kind of showing the intent
to pitch inside and make him move) there is a warning.

Do you know he was trying to hit him or just move him? Maybe you had a
conversation with him to know the intent?
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"John Poutre" <mehatespam RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Matt" <AcesWired RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 1, 10:37 am, "John Poutre" <mehates... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Let me guess, you got kicked off the debate team in Jr. high for making
>> the
>> same type of comparisons? LOL
>
> Why not answer the question? It wasn't a comparison, it was an
> analogy. Intent, not result, is what matters. He went in with intent.
> He shouldn't face less of a penalty simply because he was unable to
> execute his intent.
>
> Instead of talking about irrelevant and imaginary high school debate
> teams, why not address the question. Why does failing at the task make
> it okay?
> ----------------------------
>
> Ummm, he was warned wasn't he? I didn't see it, I am assuming it was
> inside? So, when the 2nd inside pitch happens (kind of showing the intent
> to pitch inside and make him move) there is a warning.
>
> Do you know he was trying to hit him or just move him? Maybe you had a
> conversation with him to know the intent?

I think the beef should be -- and I'm sure this was why Gardy got tossed --
that Galarraga should have gotten warned after the FIRST pitch that got
thrown at Mauer... I honestly don't blame Galarraga, he's just upholding
the silly "MLB Code Of Honor" that says you throw at Mauer when Guillen gets
his bean buzzed...

The problem and IMO incompetence is from the home plate ump -- who was it
last night, anyway? Not only did he call a horrible strike zone (a couple
of strike threes to Kubel and I think it was Granderson were just terrible
calls) but he totally blew it on Galarraga's painfully obvious first message
pitch! Any ump with half a clue would've picked up on the fact that Guillen
and likely all the Tigers were royally pissed about that fastball at
Guillen's head... so Galarraga throws at Mauer at the first opportunity --
BEHIND him no less -- and the home ump just lets that go? What a dolt...

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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:03:17 -0700, "brink" <invalid.RemoveThis@invalid.com>
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>>"John Poutre" <mehatespam.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> Ummm, he was warned wasn't he? I didn't see it, I am assuming it was
>> inside? So, when the 2nd inside pitch happens (kind of showing the intent
>> to pitch inside and make him move) there is a warning.
>>
>> Do you know he was trying to hit him or just move him? Maybe you had a
>> conversation with him to know the intent?
>
>I think the beef should be -- and I'm sure this was why Gardy got tossed --
>that Galarraga should have gotten warned after the FIRST pitch that got
>thrown at Mauer...

Exactly. the warning should have come with pitch one...which was a
blatant bean attempt. The warning after the second was just lame.

>I honestly don't blame Galarraga, he's just upholding
>the silly "MLB Code Of Honor" that says you throw at Mauer when Guillen gets
>his bean buzzed...

LOL

>The problem and IMO incompetence is from the home plate ump -- who was it
>last night, anyway? Not only did he call a horrible strike zone (a couple
>of strike threes to Kubel and I think it was Granderson were just terrible
>calls) but he totally blew it on Galarraga's painfully obvious first message
>pitch! Any ump with half a clue would've picked up on the fact that Guillen
>and likely all the Tigers were royally pissed about that fastball at
>Guillen's head... so Galarraga throws at Mauer at the first opportunity --
>BEHIND him no less -- and the home ump just lets that go? What a dolt...

Yep, no wonder Gardenhire blew up on him.




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On Jul 1, 1:03 pm, "brink" <inva....RemoveThis@invalid.com> wrote:
> "John Poutre" <mehates....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Jul 1, 10:37 am, "John Poutre" <mehates....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Let me guess, you got kicked off the debate team in Jr. high for making
> >> the
> >> same type of comparisons? LOL
>
> > Why not answer the question? It wasn't a comparison, it was an
> > analogy. Intent, not result, is what matters. He went in with intent.
> > He shouldn't face less of a penalty simply because he was unable to
> > execute his intent.
>
> > Instead of talking about irrelevant and imaginary high school debate
> > teams, why not address the question. Why does failing at the task make
> > it okay?
> > ----------------------------
>
> > Ummm, he was warned wasn't he? I didn't see it, I am assuming it was
> > inside? So, when the 2nd inside pitch happens (kind of showing the
> > intent
> > to pitch inside and make him move) there is a warning.
>
> > Do you know he was trying to hit him or just move him? Maybe you had a
> > conversation with him to know the intent?
>
> I think the beef should be -- and I'm sure this was why Gardy got
> tossed --
> that Galarraga should have gotten warned after the FIRST pitch that got
> thrown at Mauer... I honestly don't blame Galarraga, he's just upholding
> the silly "MLB Code Of Honor" that says you throw at Mauer when Guillen
> gets
> his bean buzzed...
>
> The problem and IMO incompetence is from the home plate ump -- who was it
> last night, anyway? Not only did he call a horrible strike zone (a couple
> of strike threes to Kubel and I think it was Granderson were just terrible
> calls) but he totally blew it on Galarraga's painfully obvious first
> message
> pitch! Any ump with half a clue would've picked up on the fact that
> Guillen
> and likely all the Tigers were royally pissed about that fastball at
> Guillen's head... so Galarraga throws at Mauer at the first opportunity --
> BEHIND him no less -- and the home ump just lets that go? What a dolt...
>
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> - Show quoted text -

The other thing that miffs Gardy is when his guy gets thrown at, and
the ump warns both benches. He runs out and screams something like :
"Why are *we* getting warned? We didn't do anything [under his
breath: "yet."]. He didn't have such a clear case to be made last
night since Perkins was involved early (though probably not
intentionally).

I would not want to be the first Tiger batter to come up with the
bases empty and 2 outs tonight. Who knows? maybe Scott Baker is too
nice a guy.

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It will be stupid to continue it as it seems like it should be over now.
Kind of even, Tiger gets hit, Tiger pitcher not quite so even but yeah,
intent. Actually, Tigers should finish it tonight and hit someone as they
still haven't. (j/k)
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>> > On Jul 1, 10:37 am, "John Poutre" <mehates... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Let me guess, you got kicked off the debate team in Jr. high for
>> >> making
>> >> the
>> >> same type of comparisons? LOL
>>
>> > Why not answer the question? It wasn't a comparison, it was an
>> > analogy. Intent, not result, is what matters. He went in with intent.
>> > He shouldn't face less of a penalty simply because he was unable to
>> > execute his intent.
>>
>> > Instead of talking about irrelevant and imaginary high school debate
>> > teams, why not address the question. Why does failing at the task make
>> > it okay?
>> > ----------------------------
>>
>> > Ummm, he was warned wasn't he? I didn't see it, I am assuming it was
>> > inside? So, when the 2nd inside pitch happens (kind of showing the
>> > intent
>> > to pitch inside and make him move) there is a warning.
>>
>> > Do you know he was trying to hit him or just move him? Maybe you had a
>> > conversation with him to know the intent?
>>
>> I think the beef should be -- and I'm sure this was why Gardy got
>> tossed --
>> that Galarraga should have gotten warned after the FIRST pitch that got
>> thrown at Mauer... I honestly don't blame Galarraga, he's just upholding
>> the silly "MLB Code Of Honor" that says you throw at Mauer when Guillen
>> gets
>> his bean buzzed...
>>
>> The problem and IMO incompetence is from the home plate ump -- who was it
>> last night, anyway? Not only did he call a horrible strike zone (a couple
>> of strike threes to Kubel and I think it was Granderson were just
>> terrible
>> calls) but he totally blew it on Galarraga's painfully obvious first
>> message
>> pitch! Any ump with half a clue would've picked up on the fact that
>> Guillen
>> and likely all the Tigers were royally pissed about that fastball at
>> Guillen's head... so Galarraga throws at Mauer at the first
>> opportunity --
>> BEHIND him no less -- and the home ump just lets that go? What a dolt...
>>
>> brink- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The other thing that miffs Gardy is when his guy gets thrown at, and
> the ump warns both benches. He runs out and screams something like :
> "Why are *we* getting warned? We didn't do anything [under his
> breath: "yet."]. He didn't have such a clear case to be made last
> night since Perkins was involved early (though probably not
> intentionally).
>
> I would not want to be the first Tiger batter to come up with the
> bases empty and 2 outs tonight. Who knows? maybe Scott Baker is too
> nice a guy.
>
> ----------------------------
>
> It will be stupid to continue it as it seems like it should be over now.
> Kind of even, Tiger gets hit, Tiger pitcher not quite so even but yeah,
> intent. Actually, Tigers should finish it tonight and hit someone as they
> still haven't. (j/k)

Nobody was hit yesterday an I agree it should be over (looks like it was).
These teams see each other a lot in the near future, I don't think we need
an escalation at this point.

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On Jun 30, 8:16 pm, Scott Smith <scott.sm... RemoveThis @iphouse.com> wrote:
> Galarraga was obviously trying to hit Mauer with those pitches.
>
> A warning on the second attempt is bullshit.
>
> He should have been ejected rather than Gardenhire.
>
> - Scott Smith: scott.sm... RemoveThis @iphouse.com
> MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/choppersmith

Did you see the look on Mauer's face after the second pitch. It was
as close as he has ever come to cursing so that a lip reader would get
an ear(eye?)-ful.

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I read his lips, he said "Hey! That was naughty, you no-good dastardly
ne'er do well!"

Try as he might, Mauer just can't be a tough guy...

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> "brianj" <firstpres DeleteThis @turtlecreek.net> wrote in message
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> On Jun 30, 8:16 pm, Scott Smith <scott.sm... DeleteThis @iphouse.com> wrote:
>> Galarraga was obviously trying to hit Mauer with those pitches.
>>
>> A warning on the second attempt is bullshit.
>>
>> He should have been ejected rather than Gardenhire.
>>
>> - Scott Smith: scott.sm... DeleteThis @iphouse.com
>> MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/choppersmith
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> Did you see the look on Mauer's face after the second pitch. It was
> as close as he has ever come to cursing so that a lip reader would get
> an ear(eye?)-ful.
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> I read his lips, he said "Hey! That was naughty, you no-good
> dastardly ne'er do well!"
>
> Try as he might, Mauer just can't be a tough guy...
>
> brink

Which just goes to show ya that he is REAL CLASS! And he's from
Minnesota!

AnnE Go TWINS
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On Jul 1, 12:45 pm, "John Poutre" <mehates... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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> Do you know he was trying to hit him or just move him?  Maybe you had a
> conversation with him to know the intent?

Really? This is the defense you're going with?

Matt
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On Jul 1, 12:45 pm, "John Poutre" <mehates... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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> Do you know he was trying to hit him or just move him? Maybe you had a
> conversation with him to know the intent?

Really? This is the defense you're going with?


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>> On Jun 30, 8:16 pm, Scott Smith <scott.sm... RemoveThis @iphouse.com> wrote:
>>> Galarraga was obviously trying to hit Mauer with those pitches.
>>>
>>> A warning on the second attempt is bullshit.
>>>
>>> He should have been ejected rather than Gardenhire.
>>>
>>> - Scott Smith: scott.sm... RemoveThis @iphouse.com
>>> MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/choppersmith
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>> Did you see the look on Mauer's face after the second pitch. It was
>> as close as he has ever come to cursing so that a lip reader would get
>> an ear(eye?)-ful.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I read his lips, he said "Hey! That was naughty, you no-good dastardly
>> ne'er do well!"
>>
>> Try as he might, Mauer just can't be a tough guy...
>>
>> brink
>
> Which just goes to show ya that he is REAL CLASS! And he's from
> Minnesota!


Class is not being tough?
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