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Mary1973

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:28 pm
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I really do feel sorry for the Marlins that they have to play in that
horrible stadium. And it's even worse since football started.

Why did MLB permit them to have a team if there were not plans for a
new stadium? It's totally ridiculous.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:31 pm
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On Aug 30, 8:57 pm, Ruben <ru....TakeThisOut@www2.mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:28:33 -0700, Mary1973 wrote:
> > I really do feel sorry for the Marlins that they have to play in that
> > horrible stadium.  And it's even worse since football started.
>
> > Why did MLB permit them to have a team if there were not plans for a new
> > stadium? It's totally ridiculous.
>
> It's the teams owership's fault.  They can build a stadium, and turn a
> decent profit.  They choose not too.  Frankly, I've come to believe
> baseball needs another expansion including another NY based team, another
> Boston team, a team in Central California, San Antonio, Portland,
> Vancouver....
>
> Ruben
>
> --http://www.mrbrklyn.com- Interesting Stuffhttp://www.nylxs.com- Leadership Development in Free Software
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world  - RI Safir 1998
>
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt.  I guess you missed that one."
>
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I won't speak for any of the other places, but Boston would not
support another team. There's no place to put a stadium and they
wouldn't draw anyway.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:57 pm
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:28:33 -0700, Mary1973 wrote:

> I really do feel sorry for the Marlins that they have to play in that
> horrible stadium. And it's even worse since football started.
>
> Why did MLB permit them to have a team if there were not plans for a new
> stadium? It's totally ridiculous.

It's the teams owership's fault. They can build a stadium, and turn a
decent profit. They choose not too. Frankly, I've come to believe
baseball needs another expansion including another NY based team, another
Boston team, a team in Central California, San Antonio, Portland,
Vancouver....

Ruben

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So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998

http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:14 pm
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:31:10 -0700, jonathan wrote:

>
> I won't speak for any of the other places, but Boston would not support
> another team. There's no place to put a stadium and they wouldn't draw
> anyway.

I don't know how that can be. Fenway park is sold out solid every game.
If there is no room in Boston proper, they can put a stadium in one of the
other cities that make Boston. Where was the Braves field?

Ruben

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http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998

http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:42 pm
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On Aug 31, 1:14 pm, Ruben <ru....TakeThisOut@www2.mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:31:10 -0700, jonathan wrote:
>
> > I won't speak for any of the other places, but Boston would not support
> > another team.  There's no place to put a stadium and they wouldn't draw
> > anyway.
>
> I don't know how that can be.  Fenway park is sold out solid every game..
> If there is no room in Boston proper, they can put a stadium in one of the
> other cities that make Boston.  Where was the Braves field?
>
> Ruben
>
> --http://www.mrbrklyn.com- Interesting Stuffhttp://www.nylxs.com- Leadership Development in Free Software
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world  - RI Safir 1998
>
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt.  I guess you missed that one."
>
> © Copyright for the Digital Millennium

Fenway is sold out . . . by Red Sox fans. Do you think those people
would just go watch another team? I know you probably don't know this
area very well, but traffic is already a problem, and real estate here
is extremely hard to come by. Introducing something as significant as
a stadium into the fabric here is unbelievably difficult. It's not a
coincidence that the Patriots play an hour south where the impact is
relatively minor on metro Boston.

The Braves field was on Huntington Avenue, which is now occupied by
Northeastern University and Wentworth. This area has changed a lot
just in the last 20 years. I think there's a marker at the Ruggles T
Station, but like the Polo Grounds, there's almost no evidence a
stadium was ever there.

The point more is that I don't see the fan base here supporting
another team. I frankly can't think of a good example where a
franchise was added to a city that traditionally only had one. New
York is not a good example because the Mets succeeded the Giants and
Dodgers in terms of National League baseball. If you tried to add a
third team to NYC today, I'm not sure it would work. There are no
National League baseball fans here to tap off of, and obviously nobody
would support competition for the Red Sox. There hasn't been another
team here in 55 years. I sincerely doubt there are very few people
even alive who rooted for the Boston Braves or who are Atlanta Braves
fans because they rooted for the Boston Braves. The Red Sox are all-
encompassing here.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:47 pm
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On Aug 31, 1:14 pm, Ruben <ru....DeleteThis@www2.mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:31:10 -0700, jonathan wrote:
>
> > I won't speak for any of the other places, but Boston would not support
> > another team.  There's no place to put a stadium and they wouldn't draw
> > anyway.
>
> I don't know how that can be.  Fenway park is sold out solid every game..
> If there is no room in Boston proper, they can put a stadium in one of the
> other cities that make Boston.  Where was the Braves field?
>
> Ruben
>
> --http://www.mrbrklyn.com- Interesting Stuffhttp://www.nylxs.com- Leadership Development in Free Software
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world  - RI Safir 1998
>
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt.  I guess you missed that one."
>
> © Copyright for the Digital Millennium

Correction, with apologies to Milt as usual . . .

My last post referred to South End Grounds. The Braves actually
played at Braves Field which was on Commonwealth Avenue. That's in
the middle of Boston University, and appartently the parts that are
still standing became Nickerson Field where BU plays. The grandstands
are dormitory towers. The field is now a football and track field
with only one section of the original grandstand remaining as the
stands.
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