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BobDbobby

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:57 am
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Anyone watching the game on ESPN? What a couple of lame comentators, they must
be for L.A.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:41 pm
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BobDbobby <bobdbobby.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> Anyone watching the game on ESPN? What a couple of lame comentators,
> they must be for L.A.

Jon Miller is the voice of the Giants, but he's widely regarded as one of
the finest play-by-play announcers in all of sports. I personally like
Joe Morgan, but let's just say his opinions generate much criticism in
rec.sport.baseball.

Overall, I enjoy listening to Miller and Morgan on ESPN, and they've been
a successful combo for the network--they've worked together on Sunday
Night Baseball for over ten years now.

It was entertaining to hear Miller pronounce "Cintron" as "sin-TRONE"
which should be the correct pronunciation, but isn't. Alex pronounces his
last name "SIN-tron" as most 'murricans would expect.

--Paul
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:28 pm
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"Paul Wylie" wrote:
> Overall, I enjoy listening to Miller and Morgan on ESPN, and they've been
> a successful combo for the network--they've worked together on Sunday
> Night Baseball for over ten years now.

And that is the problem. They have been together far too long.
I was appalled at how bland and boring their performance was
last night. Then it occurred to me that I rarely watch Sunday
Night Baseball anymore, and they are the reason(s) why.

> It was entertaining to hear Miller pronounce "Cintron" as "sin-TRONE"
> which should be the correct pronunciation, but isn't. Alex pronounces his
> last name "SIN-tron" as most 'murricans would expect.

Miller's obnoxious habit of "correctly" pronouncing names,
even if it differs from everyone else in broadcasting, has
always annoyed the hell out of me. Likewise for ESPN's
insistence of adding in the little accent marks, whether
or not they really belong.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:02 am
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BobDbobby <bobdbobby RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>Anyone watching the game on ESPN? What a couple of lame comentators, they must
>be for L.A.

They weren't the weak part. The weak part was the crowd mike.

What did ESPN do, put the thing in an air handler?

Nothing but gurgling and hissing and the occasional hoot of a few kids.

Destroyed the ambiance of the game.

Jon and Joe were fine, but they didn't have the game noise to cover
the fact that no announcer is exciting compared with baseball.

--Blair
"Like watching from across the bay."
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YKW '03

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:50 am
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"Blair P. Houghton" <b.DeleteThis@p.h> wrote in message
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> Costas is a waste of human growth hormone.

But not =much= HGH.

<rimshot>

> Uecker and Morgan would be good. Costas should stick
> to doing bumpers on women's gymnastics.

Can't recall having seen much in the way of "bumpers" in competitive women's
gymnastics....

<drumroll & rimshot>

> --Blair
> "Shea Hillenbrand for Mayor."

More like "King For A Day". Even Mark Whiten had one monster game in him,
after all; even Dale Long had a couple monster =weeks=. When teams stop
feeding him change-ups belt-high and middle-in, we'll see how he adjusts.
Scuttlebutt in Beantown was, he =never= made adjustments.
--
_____

"In a speech last week, president Clinton complained that the Bush
Administration is erasing all of his accomplishments. Today, the Bush
Administration said all they did was steam clean the rug in the oval
office."

-- Conan O'Brien
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:23 am
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"YKW '03" <vpotus.RemoveThis@undisclosed.loc> wrote in message
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> "Blair P. Houghton" <b.RemoveThis@p.h> wrote in message
> news:zorOa.55567$q85.427936@news.easynews.com...
>
> > "Shea Hillenbrand for Mayor."
>
> More like "King For A Day".
>
> Even Mark Whiten had one monster game in him,
> after all; even Dale Long had a couple monster =weeks=. When teams stop
> feeding him change-ups belt-high and middle-in, we'll see how he adjusts.

Well, today's performances by Kim and Hillenbrand are making Joe Jr. look
like a frickin' genius. (although I am sorry to see Kim blow a save in
Yankee Stadium). We'll see how it plays out long term, but this trade isn't
looking nearly as bad as

> Scuttlebutt in Beantown was, he =never= made adjustments.

Looks like he's adjusted to not having a big green wall in left field at
least. <g>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:06 pm
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bobdbobby DeleteThis @aol.com (BobDbobby) wrote in
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> Anyone watching the game on ESPN? What a couple of lame comentators,
> they must be for L.A.

I've often wondered about the different feeds of Fox Sports and
their commentators.

Where I live, we get the San Francisco feed, and Giants games. The usual
commentators are Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow (Kuip and Kruk.) They are low
key, friendly and just a lot of fun to listen to.

Occasionally, Miller will be on, and I always enjoy him also. The one I
can't stand is Joe Angel. His lame home run call annoys the hell out of me.

"You can put your name on that one, Barry Bonds, and kiss it good bye.
Hasta la vista, baby!" It seldom varies.

I can say that watching games on WGN and TBS, they sure have some bad
commentators. The Cubs guys are so homey it smells. I guess I'm spoiled,
because Kuip and Kruk always give opposing players their due for making a
great play.

Who do you guys have down there in AZ?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 1:52 am
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"donut" <none.RemoveThis@none.com> wrote in message
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> bobdbobby.RemoveThis@aol.com (BobDbobby) wrote in
> news:20030706205710.19881.00000255@mb-m18.aol.com:
>
> > Anyone watching the game on ESPN? What a couple of lame comentators,
> > they must be for L.A.
>
> I've often wondered about the different feeds of Fox Sports and
> their commentators.
>
> Where I live, we get the San Francisco feed, and Giants games. The usual
> commentators are Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow (Kuip and Kruk.) They are
low
> key, friendly and just a lot of fun to listen to.

Back when I had the old PrimeStar dish (mid-to-late-90s), I got KTVU and had
the chance to watch quite a few Giants broadcasts. I like Krukow for his
insights, but he's so, so, =SO= bland as a personality that it takes some
time to really appreciate him; I honestly don't have any significant
memories of Duane Kuiper, either positive or negative.

> Occasionally, Miller will be on, and I always enjoy him also. The one I
> can't stand is Joe Angel. His lame home run call annoys the hell out of
me.
>
> "You can put your name on that one, Barry Bonds, and kiss it good bye.
> Hasta la vista, baby!" It seldom varies.

Reminds me of the truly awful call our lead radio (and back-up TV)
play-by-play guy, Greg Schulte, uses:

"Warning track, wall, you can touch 'em all!"

Sheesh.... if it touched the warning track and the wall, the batter'd hafta
pick up his third base coach, not bust out a tater trot.

> I can say that watching games on WGN and TBS, they sure have some bad
> commentators. The Cubs guys are so homey it smells. I guess I'm spoiled,
> because Kuip and Kruk always give opposing players their due for making a
> great play.

TBS is bringing back Skip and Pete after the break. I enjoy Sutton as an
analyst, but not as a lead guy; Simpson is the definition of nondescript.

WGN has good color guys (Stone on TV, Santo on the wireless) but hasn't had
a decent lead since the DBacks stole Brenneman away.

> Who do you guys have down there in AZ?

Brenneman and Steve Lyons (FOX's number-two national broadcast pair) do home
cablecasts; HoF broadcaster Joe Garagiola, Sr., replaces Lyons on home
broadcast games and, if you can get past the incessant anti-tobacco
preaching, is better now than ever; former Oriole and current Oklahoma radio
personality Jim Traber handles road color. Depending on how much of Lyons'
ain't-I-clever personality and Traber's self-deprecating bluster one can
handle, it's about as good a quartet as there is in baseball (outside of
Chavez Ravine and the YES offices, anyway).
--
_____

"In a speech last week, president Clinton complained that the Bush
Administration is erasing all of his accomplishments. Today, the Bush
Administration said all they did was steam clean the rug in the oval
office."

-- Conan O'Brien
_____
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 5:59 am
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"YKW '03" <vpotus.DeleteThis@undisclosed.loc> wrote in
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> "donut" <none.DeleteThis@none.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns93B5A37B19079donut@130.133.1.4...
>> bobdbobby.DeleteThis@aol.com (BobDbobby) wrote in
>> news:20030706205710.19881.00000255@mb-m18.aol.com:
>>
>> > Anyone watching the game on ESPN? What a couple of lame
>> > comentators, they must be for L.A.
>>
>> I've often wondered about the different feeds of Fox Sports and
>> their commentators.
>>
>> Where I live, we get the San Francisco feed, and Giants games. The
>> usual commentators are Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow (Kuip and Kruk.)
>> They are
> low
>> key, friendly and just a lot of fun to listen to.
>
> Back when I had the old PrimeStar dish (mid-to-late-90s), I got KTVU
> and had the chance to watch quite a few Giants broadcasts. I like
> Krukow for his insights, but he's so, so, =SO= bland as a personality
> that it takes some time to really appreciate him; I honestly don't
> have any significant memories of Duane Kuiper, either positive or
> negative.
>
>> Occasionally, Miller will be on, and I always enjoy him also. The one
>> I can't stand is Joe Angel. His lame home run call annoys the hell
>> out of
> me.
>>
>> "You can put your name on that one, Barry Bonds, and kiss it good
>> bye. Hasta la vista, baby!" It seldom varies.
>
> Reminds me of the truly awful call our lead radio (and back-up TV)
> play-by-play guy, Greg Schulte, uses:
>
> "Warning track, wall, you can touch 'em all!"
>
> Sheesh.... if it touched the warning track and the wall, the batter'd
> hafta pick up his third base coach, not bust out a tater trot.
>
>> I can say that watching games on WGN and TBS, they sure have some bad
>> commentators. The Cubs guys are so homey it smells. I guess I'm
>> spoiled, because Kuip and Kruk always give opposing players their due
>> for making a great play.
>
> TBS is bringing back Skip and Pete after the break. I enjoy Sutton as
> an analyst, but not as a lead guy; Simpson is the definition of
> nondescript.
>
> WGN has good color guys (Stone on TV, Santo on the wireless) but
> hasn't had a decent lead since the DBacks stole Brenneman away.
>
>> Who do you guys have down there in AZ?
>
> Brenneman and Steve Lyons (FOX's number-two national broadcast pair)
> do home cablecasts; HoF broadcaster Joe Garagiola, Sr., replaces Lyons
> on home broadcast games and, if you can get past the incessant
> anti-tobacco preaching, is better now than ever; former Oriole and
> current Oklahoma radio personality Jim Traber handles road color.
> Depending on how much of Lyons' ain't-I-clever personality and
> Traber's self-deprecating bluster one can handle, it's about as good a
> quartet as there is in baseball (outside of Chavez Ravine and the YES
> offices, anyway).


It's Brenneman and Krukow tomorrow on the Fox. This will be very
interesting.

I wondered what ever happened to Joe Sr. I always liked him. Glad to hear
he's still active in broadcasting - he has to be getting up there.
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