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(Msg. 31) Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Cabrera (was: Dombrowski tries to explain Tigers poor start) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:56:10 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
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>"S. Smith" <scott.smith RemoveThis @iphouse.com> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:21:01 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
>> <billkawalec RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>"S. Smith" <scott.smith RemoveThis @iphouse.com> wrote in message
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>>>> On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:35:10 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
>>>> <billkawalec RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>"S. Smith" <scott.smith RemoveThis @iphouse.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:cug8345gjkprlt4pf7gd11ov73b9qnllja@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:35:34 -0400, SkippyPB
>>>>>> <swiegand RemoveThis @nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>On Tue, 20 May 2008 18:48:15 -0500, Scott Smith
>>>>>>><scott.smith RemoveThis @iphouse.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>On Tue, 20 May 2008 18:58:58 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
>>>>>>>><billkawalec RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> I've never thought Cabrera was that great, so it'll be interesting
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>> how he does over this season and next.
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>>>>>>>>>> He might have looked "great" compared to his Florida teammates and
>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>> National League counterparts, but on the Tigers roster and against
>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>> American League counterparts, he looks fairly average (bordering
>>>>>>>>>> on just "good"... maybe), IMO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>not worth a response
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do you think the Tigers are getting a good return on their investment
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>Cabrera so far?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do you *honestly* think that he is worth $153 million dollars for
>>>>>>>>EIGHT
>>>>>>>>years?
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you think the Yankees got a great return on their investment of 25
>>>>>>>million for A-Rod? Hint: stupid question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it a stupid question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember, the Tigers could have spent that money on pitching,
>>>>>> which I think was the Tigers biggest weakness going into the
>>>>>> season.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>ah well, you were wrong. They persued offense, thinking (rightly) that
>>>>>with
>>>>>'07 pitching and more runs scored, they would win more ballgames. The
>>>>>offense has fallen far short of expectations, so far.
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>>>> I don't think I was wrong, I think the Tigers front office was wrong.
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>>>The offense has fallen far short of expectations, so far.
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>> True.
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>> And the pitching is the WORST in baseball this season.
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>still, they could currently be a .500 team if the offense had performed.
Maybe.
>SEVEN SHUTOUTS!
Yes, it's ugly so far.
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Dombrowski tries to explain Tigers poor start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 15:31:33 -0700, "TM" <Tee_emm.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Bill Kawalec" <billkawalec.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> well, agree or not, the numbers show that it happens. Sometimes, but
>> rarely, it takes a full season.
>For $153.3 million, I think Dombrowski was looking for a "slightly
>quicker" adjustment. Like during spring training maybe? Or after
>de-boarding the plane from Maracay?
LOL
I would hope so. Time is money (and losses). 
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:13 am
Post subject: Re: Dombrowski tries to explain Tigers poor start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:51:58 -0500, S. Smith <scott.smith.DeleteThis@iphouse.com>
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>On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:34:37 -0400, SkippyPB
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>>On Wed, 21 May 2008 02:57:30 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
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>>>Fits right in with Leyland's "horseshit" rant. The one guy you call out by
>>>name is, in fact, 5 for 5 in save situations, and, in fact, got the last two
>>>outs in the Tuesday night game, without allowing a base runner.
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>>Exactly. Verlander pitched 6 strong innings for a change giving up
>>only 1 run. It was the bullpen in the form of Rapada and Lopez who
>>gave up 7 runs, 6 of them earned.
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>>Tiger bats exploded after a closed clubhouse meeting. Let's hope it
>>continues.
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>Keep in mind that it's just Seattle they are playing, and that Silva
>is not a very good pitcher.
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We played the Twins and Royals, both of whom fit that description and
didn't do nearly as well. So I'm not discounting the fact that it was
the Mariners, who were picked by a many experts to win the West this
season.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:58 pm
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"SkippyPB" <swiegand.RemoveThis@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:51:58 -0500, S. Smith <scott.smith.RemoveThis@iphouse.com>
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>>On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:34:37 -0400, SkippyPB
>><swiegand.RemoveThis@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
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>>>On Wed, 21 May 2008 02:57:30 -0400, "Bill Kawalec"
>>><billkawalec.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>Fits right in with Leyland's "horseshit" rant. The one guy you call out
>>>>by
>>>>name is, in fact, 5 for 5 in save situations, and, in fact, got the last
>>>>two
>>>>outs in the Tuesday night game, without allowing a base runner.
>>>>
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>>>Exactly. Verlander pitched 6 strong innings for a change giving up
>>>only 1 run. It was the bullpen in the form of Rapada and Lopez who
>>>gave up 7 runs, 6 of them earned.
>>>
>>>Tiger bats exploded after a closed clubhouse meeting. Let's hope it
>>>continues.
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>>Keep in mind that it's just Seattle they are playing, and that Silva
>>is not a very good pitcher.
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> We played the Twins and Royals, both of whom fit that description and
> didn't do nearly as well.
There is some truth in that. All of those teams have ERAs over 4.
So I'm not discounting the fact that it was
> the Mariners, who were picked by a many experts to win the West this
> season.
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