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Hank DeWorken

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:33 am
Post subject: Re: DETROIT (AP) - The Detroit Tigers' clubhouse was somber and filled with awkward silence. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thomas wrote:
> xpenenyx.DeleteThis@earthlink.net wrote:
> > On 7 Sep 2006 14:55:40 -0700, kingdomsofa.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>> http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260906106
> >> I've read the earlier thread about the pros and cons of Dmitri's
> >> release and was surprised to see no discussion of the impact on team
> >> morale.
> >>
> >> The guarded comments so far make it clear that Dmitri's team mates are
> >> uncomfortable with what happened and how it happened. Whatever the
> >> real reasons for Dmitri's release, I can't help wondering if those
> >> reasons justified the risk of destroying team morale on the eve of a
> >> crucial road series against the team that is breathing down their neck.
> >
> > Since we don't know the reason what's to say that his release
> > didn't/won't have a positive effect on team morale.
>
> The fact that it has already clearly negatively effected team morale.
>
> Whether or not it was good for the team is up in the air at this point.
> I think it wasn't, as his performance was better than his replacement's.
>
> The effect on team morale has already been made clear though.
>
> -Thomas

Absolutely 100% wrong. Danny Knobler, in the clubhouse during the time
in question, stated quite clearly the mood was not somber and refuted
this report.

There is no "fact" that it "has already clearly negatively effected
(sic) team morale." I'll take Danny Knobler's word over some AP
writer. As for Tiger quotes, I certainly don't expect them to come out
and say "Thank God he's gone." They're professionals, and they're
being professional.

>From what I've heard from more than just a few sources, DY is a cancer
in the clubhouse, selfish, and at times very quick to play the race
card. He's jovial, comical and that's what the camera sees, but I
doubt the Tigers cut him just to spite themselves. Where there's
smoke...

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Bill Kawalec

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:19 pm
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"Sir Creep" <sircreep.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thomas wrote:
>> > IF, as was being
>> > rumbled about in some media outlets this morning, it was precipitated
>> > by
>> > some unhappiness with having been pinch hit for, then it was a message
>> > to
>> > the rest of the team.
>>
>> Yeah, that message being "we don't care about creating a positive
>> clubhouse, we don't want these issues handled by the team as a whole,
>> we're just going to make brash decisions that could gut the morale of
>> the team at any moment. Deal with it."
>>
>> Great message.
>
> I normally think the BK Lounge is a looney-tune,


pot/kettle



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but I must say Thomas,
> I have no idea where you are coming from. Under what set of facts do
> you/did you see or hear or feel or envision this 'message' you
> contrived above being any part of reality? BK is dead on this time.
> Sorry to say.
> SC
>

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Bill Kawalec

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:20 pm
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"Hank DeWorken" <hankdeworken.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thomas wrote:
>> xpenenyx.DeleteThis@earthlink.net wrote:
>> > On 7 Sep 2006 14:55:40 -0700, kingdomsofa.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>> http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260906106
>> >> I've read the earlier thread about the pros and cons of Dmitri's
>> >> release and was surprised to see no discussion of the impact on team
>> >> morale.
>> >>
>> >> The guarded comments so far make it clear that Dmitri's team mates are
>> >> uncomfortable with what happened and how it happened. Whatever the
>> >> real reasons for Dmitri's release, I can't help wondering if those
>> >> reasons justified the risk of destroying team morale on the eve of a
>> >> crucial road series against the team that is breathing down their
>> >> neck.
>> >
>> > Since we don't know the reason what's to say that his release
>> > didn't/won't have a positive effect on team morale.
>>
>> The fact that it has already clearly negatively effected team morale.
>>
>> Whether or not it was good for the team is up in the air at this point.
>> I think it wasn't, as his performance was better than his replacement's.
>>
>> The effect on team morale has already been made clear though.
>>
>> -Thomas
>
> Absolutely 100% wrong. Danny Knobler, in the clubhouse during the time
> in question, stated quite clearly the mood was not somber and refuted
> this report.
>
> There is no "fact" that it "has already clearly negatively effected
> (sic) team morale." I'll take Danny Knobler's word over some AP
> writer. As for Tiger quotes, I certainly don't expect them to come out
> and say "Thank God he's gone." They're professionals, and they're
> being professional.
>
>>From what I've heard from more than just a few sources, DY is a cancer
> in the clubhouse, selfish, and at times very quick to play the race
> card. He's jovial, comical and that's what the camera sees, but I
> doubt the Tigers cut him just to spite themselves. Where there's
> smoke...
> .



agreed. I'm, frankly, real glad to see the Tigers not allowing the inmates
to run the asylum, like some other local sports teams...





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Sir Creep

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:44 am
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Bill Kawalec wrote:
> > I normally think the BK Lounge is a looney-tune,
>
>
> pot/kettle
>

Now which am I, BK, the pot or the kettle? Wink
Thomas is the tripe that was thrown into each. Maybe he can describe
how the tripe "felt' about being thrown into a pot or kettle, and how
it would effect future tripe eaters.
SC
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