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In article <4838d1a3$0$4081$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
rja.RemoveThis@nospam.cinci.rr.com says...
> "Dan Szymborski" <dan.RemoveThis@baseballprimer.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22a279c535936d2198972a@news-server.woh.rr.com...
> > In article <48361ebf$0$7719$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> > rja.RemoveThis@nospam.cinci.rr.com says...
> >> "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler.RemoveThis@blownfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:tkettler-EFE880.18402922052008@news.fuse.net...
> >> > In article <BuqdnWkj0__HSKjVnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>,
> >> > "Bob Braun" <oxinfla.RemoveThis@hotandsunnymail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> "Kevin McClave" <kmcclave.RemoveThis@SPAM666twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:26jb349lt2ut1qcuv7ee60q6i56kp2q17o@4ax.com...
> >> >> > On Thu, 22 May 2008 15:01:41 -0400, David Short
> >> >> > <David.no.Short.RemoveThis@Spam.Wright.Please.edu> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>On the other hand, it's not just pitchers. And it's not just
> >> >> >>draftee's.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I'm hard pressed to name ANYBODY that came out of the reds farm
> >> >> >>system
> >> >> >>and has really done well, here or elsewhere.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Trevor Hoffman.
> >> >>
> >> >> He definitely fits! That was what, early 90's?
> >> >
> >> > It was 1992. Hoffman was left unprotected and taken by Florida in the
> >> > 1992 expansion draft. He was traded by Florida to the Padres when the
> >> > Padres had the fire sale and was traded with others for Gary Sheffield.
> >> >
> >> > If you want to consider a pitcher the Reds traded out of their farm
> >> > system that did well, I'd argue Jeff Montgomery who was traded for the
> >> > immortal Van Slider.
> >> >
> >> > Here's that expansion draft:
> >> > <http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Expansion_of_1993>
> >> >
> >> > I couldn't find the list showing players that were protected and which
> >> > players were protected after others were taken.
> >>
> >> Germano DFA by Padres today.
> >
> > I had the expansion protection lists in an old Baseball Weekly in my
> > files, but I can't find them at the moment.
> >
> > Though I do remember the awesomest move ever, the Royals protecting
> > *David Howard* in the expansion draft.
> >
> > The Reds did draft a few good relievers in recent years. B.J. Ryan is
> > an excellent pitcher when healthy and so was Scott Williamson before
> > injuries ruined his career. Burger King had a lot of solid seasons as
> > did Scott Sullivan. Horrific for starters though, Tomko is by far the
> > best starter the Reds developed since Browning, though Jeremy Sowers is
> > still young enough to turn around and be better than Tomko.
> >
> > (Interesting note: Unless I missed someone, until Paul Janish got
> > called up, not a single player the Reds drafted since 2003 had played in
> > the majors).
>
> Homer Bailey.

Heh, forgot someone obvious!

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On Thu, 22 May 2008 18:45:37 -0400, "RJA" <rja RemoveThis @nospam.cinci.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>No. The alternatives are about the same or worse and he's gonna have to
>take his lumps like the others before he turns great, if that's possible.
>

I understand that, but the lack of K's to means he's pressing or is
worn out. Or maybe he's gotten gun shy and is nibbling. If so,
wouldn't a shot of confidence mowing down AAA guys again be a good
boost to the ego?

We're already losing. Take our lumps with a Fogg start or two.
Another loss isn't as important as protecting the youngster long term.