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Boog




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:47 am
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No surprise, Matt Wieters is #1.

Five-Star Prospects
1. Matt Wieters, C

Four-Star Prospects
2. Chorye Spoone, RHP
3. Radhames Liz, RHP

Three-Star Prospects
4. Jake Arrieta, RHP
5. Nolan Reimold, OF
6. Billy Rowell, 3B
7. Brandon Erbe, RHP

Two-Star Prospects
8. Garrett Olson, LHP
9. Pedro Beato, RHP
10. David Hernandez, RHP
11. James Hoey, RHP

Just Missing: Bob McCrory, RHP; Scott Moore, 3B/1B; Brandon Snyder, 1B


Here's what they said about Wieters:

1. Matt Wieters, C
DOB: 5/21/86
Height/Weight: 6-5/230
Bats/Throws: S/R
Draft: 1st round, 2007, Georgia Tech
2007 Stats: .358/.480/592 in 57 NCAA games

Year In Review: Wieters entered the year as the top-rated position player in college and finished there as well, despite a junior season that was slightly below expectations. His $6 million bonus set a record for an up-front payment, and while he signed too late to make pro debut, he’s currently wowing scouts with his play in the Hawaii Winter League.

The Good: Ranked by some as the best college catcher this decade. A big switch-hitter with the rare combination of contact skills and pole-to-pole plus power. Outstanding pitch recognition. Athletic behind the plate, he also has a plus arm (good enough that he also closed at Georgia Tech).

The Bad: Wieters’ arm strength is cut down a bit by a long release. Some believe that it will take some adjustments for his power to translate from aluminum to wood. If big catchers concern you, Wieters is not your guy, as he’s larger than Joe Mauer. He needs to work on his game-calling and working with a pitching staff, which can only be learned with pro experience.

Fun Fact: Wieters' father, Richard, was a fourth-round pick by the Braves in 1977 who pitched six years in the minor leagues.

Perfect World Projection: The rare backstop who hits in the middle of a batting order.

Timetable: Wieters' talent, combined with the pressure of being a $6 million man, put him on the fast track. The goal for 2008 is for Wieters to spend a significant portion of the season at Double-A in order to be lined up for a full-time job by the following season. He could move up even more quickly than that.

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Boog




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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:53 am
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Also, here's a decent article about RHP Jake Arrieta, the #4 prospect on the list. According to Phoenix Desert Dogs (Arizona Fall League) pitching coach Gary Lucas, "I think the sky is the limit with him. He doesn't seem too fazed by anything here, and of course he's got some real good pitchers' tools with his fastball and the rest of his stuff. He has great size, a great arm. He has real upside."

http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3554956

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:24 am
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8 of the 11 are pitchers, just one a lefty. I guess that makes sense as the Beatagan's strategy was pitching and defense. Still, the lack of any hitters close to being major league ready is a big concern.

It sounds like Weiters can really play ball. I'm still not sure he was the best player for the Orioles to draft. Catchers typically take longer to work the minors as the position requires more work defensively. Add in even when they are in the majors they sit out 35-50 games a year. I suppose he could DH most of those games.

Injuries are always an issue with catchers too. Mauer is a wonderful player, but he's been injured twice in his 4 year major league career. This year he missed a lot time and his numbers were way down. Which brings up another issue with catchers: they age quickly.

Given all that, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing is Weiters ends up a right fielder.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:09 am
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Or a left fielder. Gosh knows the Orioles have vacancies.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:29 pm
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Boog wrote:
Or a left fielder. Gosh knows the Orioles have vacancies.


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Yeah, I'm thinking if he truly has this great arm he'd typically end up in right, but no need to upend the team's best player.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:03 am
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Last time I checked Wieters was hitting pretty well but his fieldinng may require a little more than just polish. Last I heard he had 6 pass balls and the was only in the the 2nd or 3rd week of the season.

Of the other prospects Penn was not mentioned. Is he no longer considered a prospect?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:48 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:21 pm
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Hi Wadester, my name is mojito. I am what I drink.
From my viewpoint, this is a thin class. Weiters has proved NOTHING, and the rest failed miserably when given their cup o' coffee.
There is absolutely no reason to be excited by anyone on this list until they actually prove they can play in the big leagues.
I love an optimistic take as much as anyone, but let's get real folks. This is the Orioles.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:59 am
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Bill James's 2008 Handbook is out. In it he ranks the top young players in baseball (under the age of 29).

1. Prince Fielder, Milwaukee, age 23.

2. Hanley Ramirez, Florida, 23.

3. Fausto Carmona, Cleveland, 23.

4. David Wright, NY Mets, 24.

5. Felix Hernandez, Seattle, 21.

6. Scott Kazmir, Tampa Bay, 23.

7. Jose Reyes, NY Mets, 24.

8. Matt Cain, San Francisco, 23.

9. Grady Sizemore, Cleveland, 25.

10. Cole Hamels, Philadelphia, 23.

11. Ryan Zimmerman, Washington, 23.

12. Troy Tulowitzki, Colorado, 23.

13. Miguel Cabrera, Florida, 24.

14. Ryan Braun, Milwaukee, 23.

15. Justin Verlander, Detroit, 24.

16. Nick Markakis, Baltimore, 23.

17. Jake Peavy, San Diego, 26.

18. Adrian Gonzalez, San Diego, 25.

19. Tom Gorzelanny, Pittsburgh, 25.

20. James Shields, Tampa Bay, 25.

21. C.C. Sabathia, Cleveland, 27.

22. Curtis Granderson, Detroit, 26.

23. Brandon Webb, Arizona, 28.

24. Chad Billingsley, LA Dodgers, 23.

25. Chris Young, Arizona, 24.
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